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Doe
10/15/23 2:44:56 PM
#51:


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Apparently a Final Fantasy game includes a depiction of fantasy racism where the lifelong racist decides to stop being racist

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:45:13 PM
#52:


Rharyx211 posted...
I'm 100% sure most of those votes are people literally going "the fuck?" because they're confused by the topic in general.

They are going "the fuck?" because they understand that coming to the conclusion that other races are people too is an incredibly shitty low bar for absolving someone's racism.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:46:51 PM
#53:


Doe posted...
Apparently a Final Fantasy game includes a depiction of fantasy racism where the lifelong racist decides to stop being racist

He doesn't even decide really. He just starts treating someone he would otherwise hate better, but given his future insensitive comments and prior self defense mechanism of blaming others for his shortcomings, it is very clear he is still likely a racist.

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Rharyx211
10/15/23 2:46:58 PM
#54:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
"I'm sorry I lacked the self control in not being racially insensitive. I promise I won't do it again especially the next time when my life sucks and I want to blame everyone but myself"
In your head, do you think there's a sort of "Racism Switch" that you can flip and then immediately stop being racist?

Wakka gets his views and beliefs questioned incrementally throughout the entire game, and gradually has to unlearn his prejudices. It's a process.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 2:47:48 PM
#55:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
When did I accuse anyone of being racist aside from Wakka and Trump?


1. Implying that i support Trump racism
SayHeyyShohei posted...
Not goalpost moving. You invoked responding about Trump as if this were about him, your opinion would remain the same. Which if it did, then LOL


2 implying I'm a racist in the other topic
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80593958/976671025
Your refusal to understand that an extreme racist suddenly having the epiphany that other races are people too doesn't disqualify them from still being racist says a lot about you as well



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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:49:40 PM
#56:


Ricemills posted...
Implying that i support Trump racism

When did I do this?
Ricemills posted...
implying I'm a racist in the other topic

No, I was implying that you let JRPG stories dictate how real life works and how dumb that is.

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RndmNmber1
10/15/23 2:50:16 PM
#57:


Rharyx211 posted...
I'm 100% sure most of those votes are people literally going "the fuck?" because they're confused by the topic in general.

Should i make a new poll instead of obviously vague poll to trick people into not voting the latter option?

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Rharyx211
10/15/23 2:51:36 PM
#58:


RndmNmber1 posted...
Should i make a new poll instead of obviously vague poll to trick people into not voting the latter option?
You should actually make it even vaguer and not even have the options relate to Wakka at all.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 2:52:03 PM
#60:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
When did I do this?

No, I was implying that you let JRPG stories dictate how real life works and how dumb that is.

You know what's even dumber? Thinking a JRPG story works like real life. And real life is still better than your own twisted assumption.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:53:27 PM
#61:


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Exactly

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:54:20 PM
#62:


Ricemills posted...
You know what's even dumber? Thinking a JRPG story works like real life. And real life is still better than your own twisted assumption.

You praised Wakka's character arc as something deep and as if he suddenly wasn't a racist anymore when it really isn't that deep and doesn't prove shit lol

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Rharyx211
10/15/23 2:54:51 PM
#63:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
No, I was implying that you let JRPG stories dictate how real life works and how dumb that is.
Dude, even a 5 year old understands stories have lessons and morals you're supposed to take away.

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RndmNmber1
10/15/23 2:54:56 PM
#64:


Rharyx211 posted...
You should actually make it even vaguer and not even have the options relate to Wakka at all.

I am not TC. I do try to made my point clear and not misleading. Unfortunately, not everyone has the time on all day to shitpost.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:56:11 PM
#65:


Rharyx211 posted...
Dude, even a 5 year old understands stories have lessons and morals you're supposed to take away.

"don't be racist"

such groundbreaking story telling

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Ricemills
10/15/23 2:56:32 PM
#66:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
You praised Wakka's character arc as something deep and as if he suddenly wasn't a racist anymore when it really isn't that deep and doesn't prove shit lol

Seriously, we all already know that you didn't even play the game.
No need to give more evidence.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:57:23 PM
#67:


Ricemills posted...
Seriously, we all already know that you didn't even play the game.
No need to give more evidence.

You want to say this four more times? Maybe by the 5th it'll be true. Maybe.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 2:58:27 PM
#68:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
You want to say this four more times? Maybe by the 5th it'll be true. Maybe.
As long as you spouting things that you don't understand from the game, yes.
And it's already true from the start.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 3:00:08 PM
#69:


Ricemills posted...
As long as you spouting things that you don't understand from the game, yes.
And it's already true from the start.

Why do you think I didn't play the game? I clearly have, as I've been offering my take on Wakka through details from the story. Is it because you disagree with my opinion? Is there only one way to interpret the game otherwise someone wouldn't have played it?

Some main character ish right here

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Ricemills
10/15/23 3:01:39 PM
#70:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
Why do you think I didn't play the game?

I literally quoted you on those posts.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 3:03:24 PM
#71:


Ricemills posted...
I literally quoted you on those posts.
I'm the one who didn't know there was an insensitive fireworks comment in FFX.

Projection much?

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Rharyx211
10/15/23 3:04:20 PM
#72:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
Why do you think I didn't play the game?
Because you clearly didn't engage with the story properly at all if you don't understand Wakka's arc on such a basic level.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 3:04:31 PM
#73:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
I'm the one who didn't know there was an insensitive fireworks comment in FFX.

Projection much?

I literally the one who let you know there is that scene lmao.
You didn't even know it existed before.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 3:05:15 PM
#74:


Rharyx211 posted...
Because you clearly didn't engage with the story properly at all if you don't understand Wakka's arc on such a basic level.

Well I'm not the one who didn't play the game enough to remember certain scenes. There's some projection on Ricemills part, what about you?

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 3:06:35 PM
#75:


Ricemills posted...
You didn't even know it existed before.

You're in my head now? You've followed my entire life and gaming history?

Geez, please work on your main character syndrome. You'd probably start to realize why Wakka deciding Rikku is human after all is such a shitty low bar to absolve someone of their racism.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 3:07:04 PM
#76:


Now you're using the "no u" tactics after i called you projecting in post #46 lmao.

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Irony
10/15/23 3:07:40 PM
#77:


Boom! Like happy festival fireworks ya

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ooger
10/15/23 3:08:16 PM
#78:


Who?

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RndmNmber1
10/15/23 3:08:39 PM
#79:


This topic is the dumbest topic I've seen this year, and people keep flaming the dumb topic is also dumb.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 3:09:00 PM
#80:


Ricemills posted...
Now you're using the "no u" tactics after i called you projecting in post #46 lmao.

People who call projection first sometimes are hiding their own projection. I gave legitimate reasons why it can be seen that you are projecting. You have not.

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Trumble
10/15/23 3:09:59 PM
#81:


Many racists acknowledge their targets are humans, but consider them less worthwhile humans. Just acknowledging "they're humans" doesn't remotely make them not racist.

Something like "still enjoys racist humor but opposes racist actions or serious racist comments" is the starting point where my opinion of them begins to improve. Key word "begins".

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Ricemills
10/15/23 3:10:33 PM
#82:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
People who call projection first sometimes are hiding their own projection. I gave legitimate reasons why it can be seen that you are projecting. You have not.

Lmao.
Like i said before, you're really out argument.
Now all you do is just "no u".

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 3:11:53 PM
#83:


Trumble posted...
Many racists acknowledge their targets are humans, but consider them less worthwhile humans. Just acknowledging "they're humans" doesn't remotely make them not racist.

Something like "still enjoys racist humor but opposes racist actions or serious racist comments" is the starting point where my opinion of them begins to improve. Key word "begins".

Well said

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Trumble
10/15/23 3:12:30 PM
#84:


Doe posted...
Apparently a Final Fantasy game includes a depiction of fantasy racism where the lifelong racist decides to stop being racist
To clarify, the lifelong racist in FFX is that way because of a religion that controls basically the whole word and deems the target race to be evil. Said race do do things that are incompatible with the religion's values (as they are basically the one group in that world who do not follow the religion in question), but the things in question are not harmful. He overcomes it as part of seeing through the religion's brainwashing, so very likely has made a genuine change.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 3:12:58 PM
#85:


Ricemills posted...
Lmao.
Like i said before, you're really out argument.
Now all you do is just "no u".

Your argument fell apart when you refused to discuss anything remotely relevant to it, and instead decided to go on this "no u" tirade because you got old of the "you didnt play the game" dead horse.

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Kami_no_Kami
10/15/23 3:22:11 PM
#86:


The_shibe posted...
citation needed
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Ricemills
10/15/23 3:26:21 PM
#87:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
Your argument fell apart when you refused to discuss anything remotely relevant to it, and instead decided to go on this "no u" tirade because you got old of the "you didnt play the game" dead horse.

Like you ignored every other posters refutal, and still going with "nanana I can't hear you, wakka is always racist nanana"?

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 3:32:09 PM
#88:


Ricemills posted...
Like you ignored every other posters refutal, and still going with "nanana I can't hear you, wakka is always racist nanana"?

This is sad.

I directly addressed every single argument. Not once did I do anything that amounted to "nanana can't hear you"

I'd suggest you log off.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 3:36:04 PM
#89:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
This is sad.

I directly addressed every single argument. Not once did I do anything that amounted to "nanana can't hear you"

I'd suggest you log off.

Yes, every single argument were against you.
Nobody posted an argument that support that Wakka still racist until the end.
Well now that i posted this, someone will post it because that's just how contrarian people in the internet are.

Are you really that tired, you try to make me forfeit? Lmao.

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