Current Events > Wait, so the Israel/Palestine conflict is because of the UK!?

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the UK mandate caused this mess!?

how did the US get involved in this mess and why are we giving millions of dollars to a country that downer even like us while the Brits get to chill, relax and give some token support every now and then!?!?!?

Why did you make a topic with a link to a topic to an image I can't click

shocking truth!

Long story short, if theres a problem in the world then the most likely root of the problem is a previous British fuckup.

The UK made shit worse, but no, the conflict there is not all UKs fault.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_States_relations

There's a disturbing amount of modern day global conflicts that started (or were exasperated) by the British empire being really bad or vague at defining lines on a map.

K181 posted...

Long story short, if theres a problem in the world then the most likely root of the problem is a previous British fuckup.

"Lol" I think its particularly hilarious that Britain made a lot of these problems, and then peace'd out after losing their status as the global world power, becoming relegated to one of America's goons like a teen 80s movie with the bully and his posse behind him

Well, Israel and Palestine have had since 1948 to sort this problem out by themselves and they're still no closer to peace.

Or is it the fault of the Ottoman Empire for getting on the wrong side in WWI?

Well, the UK issued the Balfour Declaration in 1917 and that essentially got the ball rolling on Jewish emigration to Palestine before World War II.

If it makes you feel any better, you should see what they did when partitioning India and Pakistan.

"Because of the UK" describes a lot of modern day conflicts.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

Well, the UK issued the Balfour Declaration in 1917 and that essentially got the ball rolling on Jewish emigration to Palestine before World War II.

If it makes you feel any better, you should see what they did when partitioning India and Pakistan.

Well at least they were innocent of what happened with Pakistan and Bangladesh right?

Bro, you should have just copied the image link into to the OP.

Ivynn posted...

"Because of the UK" describes a lot of modern day conflicts.

When you say modern, what do you mean?

The only modern conflict I can think where that would apply would be the Falklands War. Vietnam would be because of France due to its colony in Indochina.

Trelve posted...

When you say modern, what do you mean?

The only modern conflict I can think where that would apply would be the Falklands War. Vietnam would be because of France due to its colony in Indochina.

Israel/Palestine
India/Pakistan
Some of Africa's troubles

to name a few

The Middle East, Cyprus, India/Pakistan, Ireland (sort of) . . .

British policy was 'we're going to fuck off now. If you could just fight amongst yourselves for a bit, instead of blaming us for all the shitty Empire stuff, that would be great!'

The collapse of the UK empire and Colonialism is a root to a lot of geopolitical conflict. Yes.

UnfairRepresent posted...

There's a disturbing amount of modern day global conflicts that started (or were exasperated) by the British empire being really bad or vague at defining lines on a map.

yep

The conflict existed long before UK even existed.
You might remember when Christians sent Crusaders to the Middle East? Same conflict.
The Muslims kicked out the Crusaders and owned the place. They allowed Jews to move in, and it was peaceful between them most of the time for hundreds of years.
Then two things happened.
1: A global movement of allowing Jews getting their own state in their holy land, which the Arabs and Muslims already living there were against because it was their land.
2: The younger Arab generation got inspired by Western democracy that whispered promises of creating new Arabic ruled states that would create their own destiny.
...behind the scene, Britain, France and Russia planned to cut it up in equally owned political och economical spheres.
So while Britain didnt directly cause this mess, they made it worse.

Ivynn posted...

Israel/Palestine
India/Pakistan
Some of Africa's troubles

to name a few

ai123 posted...

The Middle East, Cyprus, India/Pakistan, Ireland (sort of) . . .

British policy was 'we're going to fuck off now. If you could just fight amongst yourselves for a bit, instead of blaming us for all the shitty Empire stuff, that would be great!'

Egypt/Sudan as well

UnfairRepresent posted...

There's a disturbing amount of modern day global conflicts that started (or were exasperated) by the British empire being really bad or vague at defining lines on a map.

they should be on the hook for them. Why are we getting poor and unsafe from them instead of them? It annoys me

Ivynn posted...

"Because of the UK" describes a lot of modern day conflicts.

and they get to peep peep cheerio while we deal with it

superbot400 posted...

The collapse of the UK empire and Colonialism is a root to a lot of geopolitical conflict. Yes.

yep

the weird thing is the Spanish empire and Portuguese empire didnt leave America as a powder keg of disputes, somehow they didnt fuck it up

The_shibe posted...

the weird thing is the Spanish empire and Portuguese empire didnt leave America as a powder keg of disputes, somehow they didnt fuck it up

The Monroe doctrine took care of that.

But didnt the spanish actually commit a genocide when they first got there?

The_shibe posted...

the weird thing is the Spanish empire and Portuguese empire didnt leave America as a powder keg of disputes, somehow they didnt fuck it up

lol? maybe pick up a fucking history book, friend.

The_shibe posted...

they should be on the hook for them. Why are we getting poor and unsafe from them instead of them? It annoys me

If by 'we' you mean the US, then that was your choice.

Irony posted...

Why did you make a topic with a link to a topic to an image I can't click

this lol

The_shibe posted...

the weird thing is the Spanish empire and Portuguese empire didnt leave America as a powder keg of disputes, somehow they didnt fuck it up

If you forget that there's a South America, maybe.

The league of nations fucked up by giving it to Britain, yes, who then did what they do best.

But the conflict has been going on for far longer with numerous empires conquering the area and laying claim to it.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

The Monroe doctrine took care of that.

But didnt the spanish actually commit a genocide when they first got there?

the Spanish and Portuguese did many bad things, they were no angles.

my point is they didnt mess up their departure and decolonization, you dont see Mexico invading Guatemala and El Salvador being at a 80 year war with Nicaragua over a piece of land, if you know what I mean.

as for the genocide, nah, most Latin Americans are mixed, the locals assimilated into the dominating culture, as opposed to what happened in the British colonies (or else Americans, Canadians, aussies, etc would be brown too)

The_shibe posted...

my point is they didnt mess up their departure and decolonization, you dont see Mexico invading Guatemala and El Salvador being at a 80 year war with Nicaragua over a piece of land, if you know what I mean.

literally get a history book.

Kimbos_Egg posted...

literally get a history book.

only if you open a news website and show me the equivalent of the Israel situation going on right now in Latin America

Isn't it because of the UN putting Israel there? Imagine

The_shibe posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80599151/976778124

the UK mandate caused this mess!?

how did the US get involved in this mess and why are we giving millions of dollars to a country that downer even like us while the Brits get to chill, relax and give some token support every now and then!?!?!?

You do know you can just put the image link instead of the link to the post, right?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/5/1/AAczCnAAE9TD.jpg

The_shibe posted...

only if you open a news website and show me the equivalent of the Israel situation going on right now in Latin America

...are you entirely sure you know when colonialism was happening?

Guys, spain did nothing bad in the Americas.

Nor did any other European nation.

Funkydog posted...

Guys, spain did nothing bad in the Americas.

Nor did any other European nation.

I feel like Belgium doesn't get enough flak.

Funkydog posted...

Guys, spain did nothing bad in the Americas.

Nor did any other European nation.

Hey, those goddamn Dutch stole New Sweden from us!

The_shibe posted...

the Spanish and Portuguese did many bad things, they were no angles.

my point is they didnt mess up their departure and decolonization, you dont see Mexico invading Guatemala and El Salvador being at a 80 year war with Nicaragua over a piece of land, if you know what I mean.

Well some context there - its not like the Mexicans and Guatemalans have holy sites on each others land that they have been praying to for thousands of years. They dont really see their national identity to be as old as Jews and Arabs see theirs. Their traditions were wiped out through cultural diffusion thanks to Christianity.

And I would also argue that the reason why south american countries arent invading each other is because they were united in kicking the Spanish out, if memory serves. Simon Bolivar and all that. Besides, many of them seem to want to come to America anyway. I thought for the most part during the early 19th century, there were a series of revolutions that forced the Europeans to leave. So the two situations wouldnt be all that comparable.

ThePieReborn posted...

I feel like Belgium doesn't get enough flak.

Congo genocide?
Anyone who learn history knows how atrocious that was.

Ricemills posted...

Congo genocide?
Anyone who learn history knows how atrocious that was.

Kind of the problem. Them folk be few and far in between.

ThePieReborn posted...

Kind of the problem. Them folk be few and far in between.

Fair enough.
I learned that US curriculum didn't include other nation's history.

ThePieReborn posted...

I feel like Belgium doesn't get enough flak.

Or Portugal. Competed with Britain for the number enslaved.

Ricemills posted...

Fair enough.
I learned that US curriculum didn't include other nation's history.

Literally in my state of Maryland, the requirement for a fucking high school diploma is one year of world history.

For the love of.

Ricemills posted...

Fair enough.
I learned that US curriculum didn't include other nation's history.

A lot of history education in America is learning about the founding of America up to like the late 1800s and then starting over again next year.

DrizztLink posted...

A lot of American history education is learning about the founding of America up to like the late 1800s and then starting over again next year.

And retreading WW2 because OORAH.

Also our education on the Founding is hysterically terrible.

Funkydog posted...

Guys, spain did nothing bad in the Americas.

Nor did any other European nation.

youre following me around everywhere I post playing dumb about things. It is really weird.

The_shibe posted...

youre following me around everywhere I post playing dumb about things. It is really weird.

Yes, posting in topics about the current political topic is following you.

Funkydog posted...

Yes, posting in topics about the current political topic is following you.

I saw you fail to denounce certain ugly things in the other topic. Gross, were done