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The_shibe
10/21/23 2:38:39 PM
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https://www.axios.com/2023/10/20/europe-travel-requirements-2025-etias

A European Commission memo about the new travel rules defined ETIAS as a "largely automated IT system" and emphasized that an ETIAS travel authorizationis "not a visa."


sounds like a no, but if you dig deeper

Details: Travelers will need to fill out an ETIAS application form prior to travel and pay a small 7 fee (about $8).
Some ETIAS applications might take up to two weeks if additional information is needed, or up to 30 days if the applicant is asked to do an interview, the EU has said.


2 weeks? 30 days? Doing interviews!? FFS call it a visa and stop trying to sugar coat it lol.


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Tom_Joad
10/21/23 2:54:52 PM
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America creates ESTA system and forces foreigners to use it (and charges them for it, too).

The EU is upset at that and seeks to keep the old system of visa-free travel between the US-EU/EU-US.

America says "Fuck off."

EU creates ETIAS, a cheaper "copy" of ETSA, and applies it to US citizens.

America: Waaaaaah?!?!

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The_shibe
10/21/23 2:55:34 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
America creates ESTA system and forces foreigners to use it (and charges them for it, too).

The EU is upset at that and seeks to keep the old system of visa-free travel between the US-EU/EU-US.

America says "Fuck off."

EU creates ETIAS, a cheaper "copy" of ETSA, and applies it to US citizens.

America: Waaaaaah?!?!


uhhhh ok? Not sure how this relates to my point, but thanks for participating I guess

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Foppe
10/21/23 2:56:41 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
America creates ESTA system and forces foreigners to use it (and charges them for it, too).

The EU is upset at that and seeks to keep the old system of visa-free travel between the US-EU/EU-US.

America says "Fuck off."

EU creates ETIAS, a cheaper "copy" of ETSA, and applies it to US citizens.

America: Waaaaaah?!?!
USA: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/9/AAc9UyAADiVd.jpg

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Guide
10/21/23 2:56:49 PM
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The_shibe posted...
uhhhh ok? Not sure how this relates to my point, but thanks for participating I guess

It's tangential to the topic, not some offense or argument against you.

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Tom_Joad
10/21/23 2:57:04 PM
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The_shibe posted...
uhhhh ok? Not sure how this relates to my point, but thanks for participating I guess

You seem surprised that ETIAS exists and mildly annoyed because of it. In other words, the exact reaction many Americans have been having this year.

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The_shibe
10/21/23 2:59:00 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
You seem surprised that ETIAS exists and mildly annoyed because of it.

not really, no.

I am a bit annoyed that they go out of their way to say this is not a visa, I promise when it pretty much is. Why be false like that?

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The_shibe
10/21/23 3:00:49 PM
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Foppe posted...
USA: https://gamefamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/9/AAc9UyAADiVd.jpg

he is not even right about that, thought. The not a visa will apply to every single country that doesnt need a visa to go to Europe right now, even the UK (haha, serves them right),its not an America thing

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Tom_Joad
10/21/23 3:48:53 PM
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The_shibe posted...
he is not even right about that, thought. The not a visa will apply to every single country that doesnt need a visa to go to Europe right now, even the UK (haha, serves them right),its not an America thing

It's the same thing as America's ETSA.

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