Current Events > House Speak vote topic IV The Search for More Money

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Oh the good side, maybe we can work to not shut down the government. On the bad, it might happen anyways, and it was nice to not have the GQP damage America for a while, and instead damage themselves.

There's a decent chance Johnson is completely in over his head. He's the least experienced speaker since the 1880s and doesn't have relationships with McConnel, Schumer, and Biden and is going to need to quickly hire a bunch of new staff. He also is going to be expected to raise massive amounts of money for House Republicans, which he has zero experience doing. Nancy Pelosi would raise 100+ million annually.

McSame_as_Bush posted...

There's a decent chance Johnson is completely in over his head. He's the least experienced speaker since the 1880s and doesn't have relationships with McConnel, Schumer, and Biden and is going to need to quickly build a much bigger staff.

And people worry Biden is too old...

this'll be interesting for sure

McSame_as_Bush posted...

So is Ukraine funding fucked?

No. McConnell and Democrats have basically overwhelming bipartisan support for combining Israel & Ukraine funding and Republicans know nobody really cares about Ukraine funding politically but they do care about Israel and Hamas.

McSame_as_Bush posted...

There's a decent chance Johnson is completely in over his head. He's the least experienced speaker since the 1880s and doesn't have relationships with McConnel, Schumer, and Biden and is going to need to quickly hire a bunch of new staff. He also is going to be expected to raise massive amounts of money for House Republicans, which he has zero experience doing. Nancy Pelosi would raise 100+ million annually.

Yup.

Hardest job in politics. Electing seem random guy that satisfies the rest of the republican house isn't enough. What actually matters is whether or not he can do the job.

But unfortunately this means we probably are in for an extended shutdown.

Shadow_Don posted...

Yup.

Hardest job in politics. Electing seem random guy that satisfies the rest of the republican house isn't enough. What actually matters is whether or not he can do the job.

But unfortunately this means we probably are in for an extended shutdown.

Doubtful. A shutdown means we do this clown show again for the third time.

toreysback posted...

who gambled?

Matt Gaetz and republicans.

Oh yeah, the meme really applies to this guy.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/0/0/AADYzzAAE-SU.jpg

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1717248232303022459

Lol reporter asked new speaker about his role in voting to not certify the 2020 election and gets booed by a bunch of Republicans and told to shut up.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/0/9/AAaQveAAE-Sd.jpg

so how much of this is accurate?

Tyranthraxus posted...

Doubtful. A shutdown means we do this clown show again for the third time.

This whole clown show started because we didn't shutdown

Yeah...Democrats fucked up not trying to be more assertive about a compromise.
No, it isn't their fault. No, they shouldn't have to be the ones to take the initiative. Yes, even the "decent" Republicans are awful.

But...they and us are the ones that get fucked in the end, when they sit on the sidelines and let Republicans coalesce around someone all on their own, because w/ R's the crazy always wins.

teep_ posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/0/9/AAaQveAAE-Sd.jpg

so how much of this is accurate?

All of it.

teep_ posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/0/9/AAaQveAAE-Sd.jpg

so how much of this is accurate?

all of it. this dude's a bigot and his extreme religious views are no joke.

toreysback posted...

who gambled?

Dems. They didn't initiate it but they did ultimately vote to oust McCarthy. And showed just how fractured and dysfunctional Republicans are. But it has ultimately resulted in somebody who seems even worse than that weasel.

Sir_Will posted...

Dems. They didn't initiate it but they did ultimately vote to oust McCarthy. And showed just how fractured and dysfunctional Republicans are. But it has ultimately resulted in somebody who seems even worse than that weasel.

The dems didn't initiate the vote and McCarthy didn't held up his end on the deals he made with the dems.

Stop blaming the dems for the actions of the gop.

https://www.advocate.com/politics/speaker-mike-johnson-gay-sex

Sir_Will posted...

Dems. They didn't initiate it but they did ultimately vote to oust McCarthy. And showed just how fractured and dysfunctional Republicans are. But it has ultimately resulted in somebody who seems even worse than that weasel.

I think they should have tried to work out a deal with Emmer but I dont understand the thinking that McCarthy was better than this new guy.

He already caved on the election interference stuff and was also going to cave on biden impeachment and the shutdown.

And he threw dems under the bus when they tried to work with him.

Sir_Will posted...

Dems. They didn't initiate it but they did ultimately vote to oust McCarthy. And showed just how fractured and dysfunctional Republicans are. But it has ultimately resulted in somebody who seems even worse than that weasel.

"Dems voted to keep Kevin McCarthy, no aid to Ukraine in sight and all the filthy GOP laws get passed on to the Senate"

You: "Dem's fault!"

I'm not fucking blaming them. But the reality of the situation is that they voted against him. That is a fact. Republican dysfunction caused the vote and I get why they would vote against him. But one of the results of that is that somebody worse has eventually gotten the job. Now what that will actually mean remains to be seen.

Sir_Will posted...

Dems. They didn't initiate it but they did ultimately vote to oust McCarthy. And showed just how fractured and dysfunctional Republicans are. But it has ultimately resulted in somebody who seems even worse than that weasel.

They gambled what? What's changed? There's a far right extremist as Speaker. There was a far right extremist as Speaker previously.

It's the same situation.

Sir_Will posted...

one of the results of that is that somebody worse

This is what I'm disputing.

Sir_Will posted...

Now what that will actually mean remains to be seen.

Same damn thing but with a more filthy mouthpiece out there. Dems at least revealed the dysfunction and stood on solidarity for Americans to compare with, for all the good that'll do come November next year.

people have to stop pretending the dems had any power or even agency in the republican speaker battle. for better or for worse, the dems were powerless until the reps approached them with a workable deal, and that never happened.

ClayGuida posted...

They gambled what? What's changed? There's a far right extremist as Speaker. There was a far right extremist as Speaker previously.

It's the same situation.

Both are far-right by reasonable standards, but within the GOP McCarthy had multiple disagreements with the MAGA radicals that complicated his ascension and led to his downfall. Johnson has barely any of these differences, hence why not a single Freedom Caucus or MAGA guy has had a bad word to say about him and he cleared the vote with unanimous support.

It's like how on the outside looking in not a single Republican is gonna get the difference between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, but a progressive could distinguish them.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

Same damn thing but with a more filthy mouthpiece out there. Dems at least revealed the dysfunction and stood in solidarity for Americans to compare with, for all the good that'll do come November next year.

You must forever despise and blame Republicans for ruining America. If you have any friends or relative who vote Republican, do the right thing and disown them immediately.

They care about their own power and celebrity too much to crack a deal with Dems. I hope they keep bringing up abortion all next year because that worked out REAL well for them last time.

Inohira posted...

Both are far-right by reasonable standards, but within the GOP McCarthy had multiple disagreements with the MAGA radicals that complicated his ascension and led to his downfall. Johnson has barely any of these differences, hence why not a single Freedom Caucus or MAGA guy has had a bad word to say about him and he cleared the vote with unanimous support.

It's like how on the outside looking in not a single Republican is gonna get the difference between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, but a progressive could distinguish them.

Either way, it's gonna take nearly ever Republican to pass anything. So if the extremists want to put forth bill after bill that's not in line with the average American, let them, those swing district Republicans that helped flip the house at all will be long gone.

ClayGuida posted...

Either way, it's gonna take nearly ever Republican to pass anything. So if the extremists want to put forth bill after bill that's not in line with the average American, let them, those swing district Republicans that helped flip the house at all will be long gone.

And they lack a veto proof majority, so whatever they want passed will require compromise.

mystic_belmont posted...

And they lack a veto proof majority, so whatever they want passed will require compromise.

Right. So basically no more or less than what McCarthy was doing or we go into shutdown mode.

And there might be some actual upside running this guys insane positions in ads all over the country.

Just vote them out next year so congress can actually work for the American people and not the demigods and crackpots.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

Just vote them out next year so congress can actually work for the American people and not the demigods and crackpots.

Hahahahahahaha

We americans collectively are dumb as fuck. If anything more dumbfucks will be elected

Well, apparently the Republican idiots finally figured shit out and elected somebody. Of course theyre elected massively anti-gay racist evil piece of shit.

Gritty posted...

Of course theyre elected massively anti-gay racist evil piece of shit.

Of course.

ClayGuida posted...

They gambled what? What's changed?

Nothing. They swapped out a Trump's feckless sock puppet for a true believer. The end result is still the same: governmental dysfunction and fascist dogwhistles.

darkace77450 posted...

The end result is still the same: governmental dysfunction and fascist dogwhistles.

I don't think it's accurate to call them dogwhistles at this point. More like fascist foghorns.

darkace77450 posted...

Nothing. They swapped out a Trump's feckless sock puppet for a true believer. The end result is still the same: governmental dysfunction and fascist dogwhistles.

I think the biggest change will be much more of an effort to impeach. Kevin knew it was dumb but ultimately took some steps in that direction because he's a little bitch. New guy is going to be fully committed.

This selection, like almost everything GOP chuds do, will blow up in their faces and come back to bite them in the most inopportune times. And I'm here for it.

McSame_as_Bush posted...

New guy is going to be fully committed.

To what exactly? They spent 5 years investigating and just recently another "bombshell" concerning money Biden's bro paid back turned out to be a dud. New guy should be committed though, they all should.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

To what exactly? They spent 5 years investigating and just recently another "bombshell" concerning money Biden's bro paid back turned out to be a dud. New guy should be committed though, they all should.

Committed to wasting House time and money holding hearings on BS instead of doing real work. And they might impeach him in the House knowing full well it's garbage just to have it fall in the Senate. They might try to do it three times. One more than what Trump had. That'll show y'all liberals!!!!

darkace77450 posted...

Nothing. They swapped out a Trump's feckless sock puppet for a true believer. The end result is still the same: governmental dysfunction and fascist dogwhistles.

And with less ability to raise money for the House GOP.

King_Rial posted...

Committed to wasting House time and money holding hearings on BS instead of doing real work. And they might impeach him in the House knowing full well it's garbage just to have it fall in the Senate. They might try to do it three times. One more than what Trump had. That'll show y'all liberals!!!!

Thats a lot to do in the time until next congress is selected. They don't have all of the time in the world.

McSame_as_Bush posted...

I think the biggest change will be much more of an effort to impeach. Kevin knew it was dumb but ultimately took some steps in that direction because he's a little bitch. New guy is going to be fully committed.

Even if Johnson wants to impeach Biden it's likely he couldn't get the votes for it. Republicans have a slim majority in the House and there are probably some Republicans in competitive districts, particularly ones who represent districts Biden won in 2020, who wouldn't vote to impeach.

McSame_as_Bush posted...

I think the biggest change will be much more of an effort to impeach. Kevin knew it was dumb but ultimately took some steps in that direction because he's a little bitch. New guy is going to be fully committed.

Sure but they have nothing. Impeaching Biden when he has done nothing wrong won't win over anyone.

toreysback posted...

people have to stop pretending the dems had any power or even agency in the republican speaker battle. for better or for worse, the dems were powerless until the reps approached them with a workable deal, and that never happened.

They played "never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake" perfectly, IMO.

So they elected someone. Interesting.
Wonder what it took....

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/1/AAcJoVAAE-dR.jpg

Sad. Could have had Mayor McCheese...

So.... can we haz budget now?

Hahaha....of course not. Johnson's first order of business will be trying to ram through budgets that strip a ton of social services and such, that no sane person (non-Republican) would ever agree to.