Current Events > Hot Take: The Terminator is a better movie than Terminator 2.

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Alucard188
10/30/23 3:02:39 PM
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Also, Secret of the Ooze is worse than TMNT 1.

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10/30/23 3:03:25 PM
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I agree on both

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BearlyWilling
10/30/23 3:04:00 PM
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False.

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boxoto
10/30/23 3:04:59 PM
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indeed.

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Southernfatman
10/30/23 3:05:36 PM
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I agree on both, though I've never heard anyone say TMNT 2 was better than the first.

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FL81
10/30/23 3:11:07 PM
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I agree

also, A New Hope > Empire Strikes Back

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VeggetaX
10/30/23 3:12:06 PM
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A newer hot take:

The theme song carried the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZ2NShfCE8

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GuerrillaSoldier
10/30/23 3:35:45 PM
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terminator is fucking fantastic and a classic. really a stepping stone for what would be the ultimate action movie. but it didn't define the genre, it's still rustic and underdeveloped in some areas, and it still borders on niche. wasn't crafted for the general mass appeal.

terminator 2, however, takes that formula and actually makes it the ultimate action movie. hits every point. every scene is iconic. the writing, the acting, it's the basic blueprint that ever action movie strives to hit.


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Kai_Laguna
10/30/23 3:40:53 PM
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Thays not a hot fact, it's fact.
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TheDurinator
10/30/23 3:41:12 PM
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I disagree but this really isn't a particularly hot take, lots of people have this opinion. It's like Alien vs Aliens.
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The_Popo
10/30/23 3:41:48 PM
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I dont agree, but I also can understand that opinion. Both are excellent movies.

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mystic_belmont
10/30/23 3:44:36 PM
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Every sequel to T2 has tried to copy T2.

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dummy420
10/30/23 3:45:14 PM
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The_Popo posted...
I dont agree, but I also can understand that opinion. Both are excellent movies.


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TomClark
10/30/23 3:46:15 PM
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I agree.

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Zero_Destroyer
10/30/23 3:47:06 PM
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I think that's fair but both are very different movies imo

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Seaman_Prime
10/30/23 3:58:54 PM
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I like 2 more but liking 1 more is a respectable opinion.
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UnholyMudcrab
10/30/23 4:00:29 PM
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1 has 100% less cringy dialogue from Edward Furlong

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godofwar596
10/30/23 4:03:55 PM
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Agreed, I love how its basically a horror movie with its tone and atmosphere

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DuuuDe14
10/30/23 4:05:55 PM
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It's ok to be wrong about things.

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GranQroppoop
10/30/23 4:09:35 PM
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I think my issue with T2 has nothing to do with the actual movie but a mood thing. Like there are so many summer blockbuster style movies that get made these days that it lessened my current interest in T2. I still like it but T1 passed it maybe 10 years ago for me.

The art direction in T1 produced some iconic images and I really get a lot of enjoyment from the atmosphere. It's recently moved into my top 10 favorites.

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specialkid8
10/30/23 4:11:55 PM
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I always liked T2 more until rewatching them recently. T2 has a few slow bits that really drag on, and a lot of the humor as well as the whole relationship between John and Arnie is really hokey. It's still got some of the greatest action of all time but outside of those scenes it's got some small issues. The first one is nearly flawless.

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mach25687
10/30/23 4:14:04 PM
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I like the feel of the first one. Just had that good 80's feel.

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EyeWontBeFooled
10/30/23 4:28:40 PM
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Seaman_Prime posted...
I like 2 more but liking 1 more is a respectable opinion.
Exactly!

The Terminator is very much a product a time capsule of action movies in the 80s. But as others have said, it didn't DEFINE all others to come after.

Terminator 2: Judgment Day is not only a time capsule of 90s action movies, but it REDEFINED what is possible with movies technology. Full stop.


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UnfairRepresent
10/30/23 4:31:16 PM
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No

And that's not a shot at Terminator 1. It's a good movie. Heck it's a great movie.

But Terminator 2 is a candidate for the best sequel ever made, best action movie ever made and the best sci-fi movie ever made.

It's better in virtually every way. Even the parts that should make it dated like the awkward scenes of Conor making the Terminator "Hip" still work because they are entertaining.

Everyone involved in T2 brought their A-game.

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EyeWontBeFooled
11/01/23 3:45:09 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
No

And that's not a shot at Terminator 1. It's a good movie. Heck it's a great movie.

But Terminator 2 is a candidate for the best sequel ever made, best action movie ever made and the best sci-fi movie ever made.

It's better in virtually every way. Even the parts that should make it dated like the awkward scenes of Conor making the Terminator "Hip" still work because they are entertaining.

Everyone involved in T2 brought their A-game.
Couldn't agree more.

Fun fact: Arnold nearly broke his arm doing the one-arm flip shotgun reload in the highway chase scene.

Which makes the climactic scene even more impressive!

The real Sarah already has a busted right arm and has to reload the gun one handed! You need some dadgum strength to be able to do that, movie magic or not.

Every time she appears, even though I've seen the film dozens of times, I will NEVER get tired of the catharsis of that scene.

*shotgun fires, reloads one-armed; fucking badass*
AGAIN
*shotgun fires*
AGAIN

I fucking love this movie, haha

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SomeLikeItHoth
11/01/23 3:54:54 AM
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FL81 posted...
also, A New Hope > Empire Strikes Back
The Phantom Menace is the best Star Wars movie.

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UnholyMudcrab
11/01/23 3:59:25 AM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...


Fun fact: Arnold nearly broke his arm doing the one-arm flip shotgun reload in the highway chase scene.
The prop gun that Arnie flips in the motorcycle scenes had to be specially modified with a larger lever loop so his fingers didn't mash together as the gun rotated. He almost broke his fingers because he accidentally tried the stunt with an unmodified one and a standard loop.

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MICHALECOLE
11/01/23 4:04:10 AM
#28:


Terminator 2 is way better than 1 in my opinion

turtles one is way better than secret of the ooze in my opinion

also aliens > alien, back to the future one > back to the future 2, empire > a new hope, Toy Story 2 > Toy Story 1, godfather 1 > godfather 2, return of the king > two towers > lotr, clerks 2 > clerks 3 > clerks.. any more?

all my opinion btw dont at me
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BurmesePenguin
11/01/23 4:06:37 AM
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Terminator 2 is too long and I really don't give a fuck about dumb kid actor learning to love his toy robot.

Terminator (1) has a better visual aesthetic with the noir style and the stop motion robo skeleton. Sure, T2's action scenes are more elaborate and "betterer", but that doesn't translate to a more enjoyable full experience and T1's are also great. I like the young, gritty, grainy characters of Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor more than I can engage with crazy having seen the apocalypse Sarah Connor and dumb kid in the sequel.

I appreciate T2's advancement of CGI, and really, someone has to be the one to do it, but overall it creates a visual style that I like a lot less than the first one.

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bobbaaay
11/01/23 6:47:51 AM
#30:


Alucard188 posted...
Also, Secret of the Ooze is worse than TMNT 1.

100% agree on both.
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Notti
11/04/23 7:25:10 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Terminator 2 is way better than 1 in my opinion

turtles one is way better than secret of the ooze in my opinion

also aliens > alien, back to the future one > back to the future 2, empire > a new hope, Toy Story 2 > Toy Story 1, godfather 1 > godfather 2, return of the king > two towers > lotr, clerks 2 > clerks 3 > clerks.. any more?

all my opinion btw dont at me


Your opinions are my opinions, mostly.

Except toy story 1 is way superior and you should die for disagreeing.


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Zikten
11/04/23 7:28:43 AM
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Alien is superior to Aliens
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MrResetti
11/04/23 7:31:29 AM
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Terminator is a noire, T2 is the reason we have Michael Bay.
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Dark_Arbron
11/06/23 4:02:02 AM
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Ive said for years that T2 is the best unnecessary sequel ever made.

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