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Takuya_Lee
11/10/23 10:03:45 AM
#351:


Starks posted...
He just can't help himself

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/da2dde26.jpg

...I just lost 20 IQ points reading that and I want them back

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Dark_Moon
11/10/23 10:09:10 AM
#352:


Starks posted...
He just can't help himself

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/da2dde26.jpg
Umm, neither were you the President at the time they found all those box, papers, folders, ect.

Also the Presidential Record act mean you have have to give those documents to the National Archives first, and anything non-top secret/classified you might get back as copies.

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Starks
11/10/23 10:21:39 AM
#353:


He's going to take this argument until the day before his trial and then his lawyers will actually start citing the law in question and he'll be confused.

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GranAures
11/10/23 10:35:54 AM
#354:


Dark_Moon posted...
Umm, neither were you the President at the time they found all those box, papers, folders, ect.

Also the Presidential Record act mean you have have to give those documents to the National Archives first, and anything non-top secret/classified you might get back as copies.
Further: Biden didn't lie about documents found and attempt to obstruct the return of those documents and instead aided in the recovery of them.

Despite Trump's and the cult's attempts to same thing both cases.

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King_Rial
11/10/23 10:40:53 AM
#355:


GranAures posted...
Further: Biden didn't lie about documents found and attempt to obstruct the return of those documents and instead aided in the recovery of them.

Despite Trump's and the cult's attempts to same thing both cases.
Exactly. The same thing happened with Pence. When the stuff was asked for, they gave it back. Instead Trump held on to them like they were his Precious.

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loafy013
11/10/23 10:51:19 AM
#356:


King_Rial posted...
Exactly. The same thing happened with Pence. When the stuff was asked for, they gave it back. Instead Trump held on to them like they were his Precious.
IIRC, they didn't even ask Biden or Pence. Their employees found the documents and immediately contacted the archives to let them know they had them. Where trump was asked multiple times for them, swore they gave them back, only to hide some more of them elsewhere.

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CableZL
11/10/23 10:52:26 AM
#357:


loafy013 posted...
IIRC, they didn't even ask Biden or Pence. Their employees found the documents and immediately contacted the archives to let them know they had them. Where trump was asked multiple times for them, swore they gave them back, only to hide some more of them elsewhere.

Trump even lied to his own lawyers about it and put them in legal jeopardy.

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King_Rial
11/10/23 10:54:33 AM
#358:


loafy013 posted...
IIRC, they didn't even ask Biden or Pence. Their employees found the documents and immediately contacted the archives to let them know they had them. Where trump was asked multiple times for them, swore they gave them back, only to hide some more of them elsewhere.
Yuuuuup!

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Block_that_Kick
11/10/23 11:14:17 AM
#359:


Trump claimed he never had them. Then he claimed the FBI planted them at Mar-a-Lago. Then he said he had them the whole time and he had every legal right to do it.

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TomClark
11/10/23 11:16:38 AM
#360:


Starks posted...
He just can't help himself

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/da2dde26.jpg

"They say they saw boxes of documents at Mar-a-Lago - well this is because I took them from the White House, and there is video of me doing so, and therefore this is FAKE NEWS!"

It's legitimately wild that every tweet he tweets manages to out-idiot the last.

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Zikten
11/10/23 11:23:35 AM
#361:


His big flaw in his logic is that despite his claim, he in fact does not have the right to take those documents. And Biden did it by accident, and returned them as soon as he discovered them. Same with Pence even

Trump actually purposely refused to return them. He just doesn't get it. I wonder if he actually thinks he is innocent
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Starks
11/10/23 11:43:42 AM
#362:


Trump has basically admitted guilt in every case he's facing.

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Starks
11/10/23 12:12:25 PM
#363:


He truly doesn't get it.

The ability to extort a rich foreign investor to pay 50 times above asking price is irrelevant. For other properties, Trump lied to get favorable bank rates. It doesn't matter whether he paid them back either. He deceived them and cost them millions of dollars that they were supposed to get from him.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/577997fd.jpg

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mach25687
11/10/23 12:16:46 PM
#364:


Doesn't this mean he going to get another fine?

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King_Rial
11/10/23 12:33:27 PM
#365:


mach25687 posted...
Doesn't this mean he going to get another fine?
Nah. He's allowed to attack the judge, the AG, etc. Just not the judges staff.

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CableZL
11/10/23 1:16:26 PM
#366:


https://presswatchers.org/2023/11/what-did-trump-really-say-read-the-full-transcript-of-his-fraud-trial-testimony/

Transcript of Trump's testimony in the civil fraud trial is available here

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Phantom_Nook
11/10/23 1:18:09 PM
#367:


Takuya_Lee posted...
...I just lost 20 IQ points reading that and I want them back
that's my secret. I never read his ramblings.

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CableZL
11/10/23 1:22:10 PM
#368:


Q: And you formed the Trust when you decided to run for president; is that correct?
A: Pretty much when I won, I formed the Trust.
Q: Do you recall that the Trust may have been formed actually in 2014?
A: It could have been earlier, but it was primarily when I thought about running. And I think maybe came into -- it could be a little earlier, but pretty much around the time that I won.

Right off the bat... I really don't like listening to or conversing with people like this. He went back and forth from saying the revocable trust was formed when he won in 2016 to agreeing that it was 2014 "or earlier" right back to saying it was around 2016. All within a few seconds.

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Ruvan22
11/10/23 1:38:39 PM
#369:


CableZL posted...
Q: And you formed the Trust when you decided to run for president; is that correct?
A: Pretty much when I won, I formed the Trust.
Q: Do you recall that the Trust may have been formed actually in 2014?
A: It could have been earlier, but it was primarily when I thought about running. And I think maybe came into -- it could be a little earlier, but pretty much around the time that I won.

Right off the bat... I really don't like listening to or conversing with people like this. He went back and forth from saying the revocable trust was formed when he won in 2016 to agreeing that it was 2014 "or earlier" right back to saying it was around 2016. All within a few seconds.

It really is Schroedinger's trust...
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darkace77450
11/10/23 2:45:07 PM
#370:


CableZL posted...
Judge Cannon refuses to delay the classified documents trial for now... Only some pre-trial deadlines have been pushed back a bit.

It's a trap!

Starks posted...
He just can't help himself

I really do hope he rolls with "but Biden" as his legal defense.
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darkace77450
11/10/23 2:48:34 PM
#371:


CableZL posted...
Q: And you formed the Trust when you decided to run for president; is that correct?
A: Pretty much when I won, I formed the Trust.
Q: Do you recall that the Trust may have been formed actually in 2014?
A: It could have been earlier, but it was primarily when I thought about running. And I think maybe came into -- it could be a little earlier, but pretty much around the time that I won.

Right off the bat... I really don't like listening to or conversing with people like this. He went back and forth from saying the revocable trust was formed when he won in 2016 to agreeing that it was 2014 "or earlier" right back to saying it was around 2016. All within a few seconds.

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mybbqrules
11/11/23 8:09:07 PM
#373:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/EatonElder/status/1722622987697058127

Steve Bannon is in court today in attempt to overturn his contempt of congress conviction.
I hope this fat bloated carcass goes back to jail. Him getting pardoned by Trump was a travesty.

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mybbqrules
11/11/23 8:11:17 PM
#374:


Starks posted...
He just can't help himself

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/da2dde26.jpg
Damn, forget about "feeding him rope", Trump is feeding himself rope and tying the noose himself as well.

Just keep talking, fucko.

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ScarfForLife
11/13/23 9:32:31 AM
#375:


Starting again today? I thought I heard the defense may be recalling the Trump kids starting today. Cant remember which one.

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ScarfForLife
11/13/23 9:33:46 AM
#376:


Oh and just read Habba said theyd be filing for mistrial very soon as if that wasnt the goal from day 1.

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Takuya_Lee
11/13/23 9:43:38 AM
#377:


ScarfForLife posted...
Oh and just read Habba said theyd be filing for mistrial very soon as if that wasnt the goal from day 1.

Motion denied. Sit down counsel before you do how embarrass yourself further.

That would be the perfect way to deal with that filing.

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Cemith
11/13/23 9:43:40 AM
#378:


ScarfForLife posted...
Oh and just read Habba said theyd be filing for mistrial very soon as if that wasnt the goal from day 1.

Yeah we all know this was the ploy from Day 1 regardless of trial standing.

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Tyranthraxus
11/13/23 10:22:50 AM
#379:


Getting a mistrial when there's no jury sounds nearly impossible.

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toreysback
11/13/23 10:26:58 AM
#380:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Getting a mistrial when there's no jury sounds nearly impossible.

ya unless they couple it with a motion for recusal, then it makes no sense at all

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Tyranthraxus
11/13/23 10:30:16 AM
#381:


toreysback posted...
ya unless they couple it with a motion for recusal, then it makes no sense at all

Only way I can see it happening is prosecutorial misconduct which isn't happening here.

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ScarfForLife
11/13/23 10:33:37 AM
#382:


And the Judge himself would have to be the one who rules on mistrial or recusal. Theyre only going to do it so when its denied they can further rile up their base that it isnt fair.

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RchHomieQuanChi
11/13/23 10:38:45 AM
#383:


mybbqrules posted...
Damn, forget about "feeding him rope", Trump is feeding himself rope and tying the noose himself as well.

Just keep talking, fucko.

Gotta love the Trump cycle.

"I didn't do it."
"Okay I did it, but not how "they" said I did it!"
"Okay, I did it but here's why it's legal."
"But also Joe Biden/Hilary Clinton/Robert De Niro/Snoop Dogg did it!"


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CableZL
11/13/23 2:05:13 PM
#384:


https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1724084410264228028

Don Jr. doesn't seem to be as jovial today as he was last week. I really wish they would televise these trials, man. I get that the camera people are trying to rush in and out to get what video they can before the proceedings start, but holy crap... Hold the camera steady if you're taking a video.

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Cemith
11/13/23 2:06:21 PM
#385:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1724084410264228028

Don Jr. doesn't seem to be as jovial today as he was last week.

Oh no that poor child seems so confused. Someone think of the children!


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CableZL
11/13/23 2:30:43 PM
#386:


https://twitter.com/frankrunyeon/status/1724094683788275802

Soooo uhhh... The defense has began presenting their case today, and they're starting with Donald Trump Jr... They brought a powerpoint titled "The Trump Story" and they used it to tell the history of the Trump Organization.

This is how they're starting their defense.

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King_Rial
11/13/23 2:40:10 PM
#387:


Yeah, so the entire time has been Trump Jr. going on a out how great his father's vision is. When the prosecution eventually objected, Engoron said he found it interesting and let him keep going. When the defense brought up a deal made in 2022(outside of the scope of the time period for this trial) the AGs objected. But as it was noted that the AG used property deals before the statute dates, why can't the Defense use property from after the dates. The Judge said "why risk a reversal" by not allowing them the same leeway, to the AG, who eventually relented and dropped their objection.

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CableZL
11/13/23 2:50:49 PM
#388:


https://twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/1724152080514920629

That comment further supports my thinking that they don't seem to understand what is going on in this case. Unless they pull a rabbit out of a hat in their defense in this trial, the Trump Organization won't exist next November. They really need their lawyers to tell them the truth ASAP.

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Cemith
11/13/23 2:50:52 PM
#389:


CableZL posted...
This is how they're starting their defense.

This would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking mind numbing

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CableZL
11/13/23 3:00:09 PM
#390:


https://www.rawstory.com/pastor-stephen-lee/

Stephen Lee vows to never flip on Trump in the Georgia RICO trial. Dumb.

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Tyranthraxus
11/13/23 3:01:33 PM
#391:


CableZL posted...
https://www.rawstory.com/pastor-stephen-lee/

Stephen Lee vows to never flip on Trump in the Georgia RICO trial. Dumb.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bc780701.jpg

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TomClark
11/13/23 3:10:38 PM
#392:


CableZL posted...
https://www.rawstory.com/pastor-stephen-lee/

Stephen Lee vows to never flip on Trump in the Georgia RICO trial. Dumb.

Translation: when he tried to flip he was told that bigger fish than him already offered their testimony so he's too late for a cushy deal.

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Tyranthraxus
11/13/23 3:12:45 PM
#393:


TomClark posted...
Translation: when he tried to flip he was told that bigger fish than him already offered their testimony so he's too late for a cushy deal.
Apparently everyone was planning to throw Sydney Powell under the bus and she was like "can't throw me under the bus you bitches I'm the fuckin bus driver!!!"

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UltimateWing
11/13/23 3:27:40 PM
#394:


I always love seeing AG James expressions in court. Ready to give Trump and family their comeuppance. Plus witnessing how stupid they are in court.

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Umbreon
11/13/23 3:31:07 PM
#395:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1724084410264228028

Don Jr. doesn't seem to be as jovial today as he was last week.


This the same dude saying "Make liberals cry again"?

If so, that's a great look on his face. But it could be better.


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Error1355
11/13/23 5:18:48 PM
#396:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/1724152080514920629

That comment further supports my thinking that they don't seem to understand what is going on in this case. Unless they pull a rabbit out of a hat in their defense in this trial, the Trump Organization won't exist next November. They really need their lawyers to tell them the truth ASAP.

Maybe he thinks that Trump being elected president again will somehow undo this trial lol.

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King_Rial
11/13/23 5:30:07 PM
#397:


Despite how long Kise implied their defense would take, and how many witnesses they supposedly have(trying to prolong this as much as possible) they've already gone through both Monday and Tuesday's witnesses in a single day. And that's with taking the majority of Monday to have a slideshow presentation with Junior fellating his father's empire.

They really don't have any actual cases and they know this. Trying to stretch this out as much as they can to look good for Don and the belief that they can somehow get into office and make it all go away(they can't) is just pitiful.

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11/13/23 6:03:38 PM
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CableZL
11/13/23 6:14:34 PM
#398:


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1724188581382557765

A clip of Jenna Ellis' proffer session... I really wish they would go ahead and schedule Trump's trial in Georgia.

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Block_that_Kick
11/13/23 6:21:11 PM
#399:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1724188581382557765

A clip of Jenna Ellis' proffer session... I really wish they would go ahead and schedule Trump's trial in Georgia.

Somebody leaked this, and thats not good. We should not be seeing this before the trial.


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