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red13n 11/05/23 6:00:27 AM #51:	Alright let's get CRACKING. I will start by saying that I can only use the Chain Hunt once per game, and it was my choice to use it, but I could only use it at night before I turned into Elliott hence the timing choice and Intuitive. It was too tempting not to use it. Let chaos reign. The order of events here needs clarification. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:977042655] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote><quote>Alright let's get CRACKING. I will start by saying that I can only use the Chain Hunt once per game, and it was my choice to use it, but I could only use it at night before I turned into Elliott hence the timing choice and Intuitive. It was too tempting not to use it. Let chaos reign.</quote>The order of events here needs clarification. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 6:11:45 AM #52:	I tried to see if Ben hinted at anything that he might have gotten with his scan, but its hard to look for anything, since we dont even know which scanlevel he used. Maybe he scanned BCT since he did townconfirm him and he did reveal some of his traits beforehand. (well Lea did) But his posts dont point at anything really. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977042729] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I tried to see if Ben hinted at anything that he might have gotten with his scan, but its hard to look for anything, since we dont even know which scanlevel he used.Maybe he scanned BCT since he did townconfirm him and he did reveal some of his traits beforehand. (well Lea did)But his posts dont point at anything really. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 11/05/23 7:46:05 AM #53:	changmas posted... sultan why am i not in your POE after you spent most of day 1 on crescent Something is telling me you're town. Your play has been a bit different and you're pushing the topic forward instead of being the reason it stalls out --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:977043350] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>changmas posted... </cite><quote>sultan why am i not in your POE after you spent most of day 1 on crescent</quote>Something is telling me you're town. Your play has been a bit different and you're pushing the topic forward instead of being the reason it stalls out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 11/05/23 7:48:20 AM #54:	wallmasterz posted... Setting aside your vote on me which I think has very weak reasoning (if it has any lol? I honestly cant remember) but at least youve been consistent about it. Why did you list 5 players, comment on sbell then remove sbell and red from your initial larger Poe? What has red i bto form your opinion? All I remember is him vaguely claiming miller, not elaborating when asked and saying he thinks Im possibly scum for lacking my usual smug shittiness or something. Hes shown a bit of aggressive attitude which I remember people saying is indicative of town red, but hes also a good enough player to fake it, so your initial inclusion of red here then leaving him off the three player list strikes me as odd when I havent seen enough to reach a conclusion. I have slightly leaned town on you sultan but I suck at reading you. As for red I removed him beacuse of said Miller claim. Red might do that as scum but It's a bit unlikely. Red being cheeky also makes me more null. He was in the larger POE beacuse I didn't have a great read. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:977043365] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>Setting aside your vote on me which I think has very weak reasoning (if it has any lol? I honestly cant remember) but at least youve been consistent about it.Why did you list 5 players, comment on sbell then remove sbell and red from your initial larger Poe? What has red i bto form your opinion? All I remember is him vaguely claiming miller, not elaborating when asked and saying he thinks Im possibly scum for lacking my usual smug shittiness or something. Hes shown a bit of aggressive attitude which I remember people saying is indicative of town red, but hes also a good enough player to fake it, so your initial inclusion of red here then leaving him off the three player list strikes me as odd when I havent seen enough to reach a conclusion. I have slightly leaned town on you sultan but I suck at reading you.</quote>As for red I removed him beacuse of said Miller claim. Red might do that as scum but It's a bit unlikely. Red being cheeky also makes me more null. He was in the larger POE beacuse I didn't have a great read. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 11/05/23 7:49:38 AM #55:	IfGodCouldDie posted... I'll also add I almost mod killed myself day 2 because I was starting to catch up and decided just to check the state of the game and found out day 2 was over. I then ended up not even bothering to finish catching up. People looking to lynch me simply because I'm not active are just being opportunistic. Considering Sultan is one of them and the person that replaced Crescent is also one of them, I feel pretty good about my scum reads on them from day 1. So you being inactive and when you do come back you're just being a bit lazy isn't your scum tell? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:977043374] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite><quote>I'll also add I almost mod killed myself day 2 because I was starting to catch up and decided just to check the state of the game and found out day 2 was over. I then ended up not even bothering to finish catching up. People looking to lynch me simply because I'm not active are just being opportunistic. Considering Sultan is one of them and the person that replaced Crescent is also one of them, I feel pretty good about my scum reads on them from day 1.</quote>So you being inactive and when you do come back you're just being a bit lazy isn't your scum tell? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 8:09:46 AM #56:	IGCD has been known to be inactive. But that does not mean I want him to be. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977043533] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>IGCD has been known to be inactive.But that does not mean I want him to be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 11/05/23 8:23:06 AM #57:	htaeD posted... IGCD has been known to be inactive. But that does not mean I want him to be. I mean I guess we could beleive about the catching up but this intro doesn't mention real reads its just like oh I'm being attacked but 2 people one must be scum. Thats lazy and almost OMGUS --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:977043654] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>htaeD posted... </cite><quote>IGCD has been known to be inactive.But that does not mean I want him to be.</quote>I mean I guess we could beleive about the catching up but this intro doesn't mention real reads its just like oh I'm being attacked but 2 people one must be scum. Thats lazy and almost OMGUS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 11/05/23 8:29:08 AM #58:	Ugh, the switch to Daylight Wasting Time always fucks with me. I'm trying here but I woke up to only ten new posts. How do we find scum with that? How do the rest of us get more interested with that? Our votes aren't locked today, right? Meaning... I can actually pursue people? It was that shit that got me to check out in the first place. Let's throw a vote down. ##vote: Brohan Let's see if he replies to this. --- Help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered! RIP Bob Barker (1923 - 2023) - and thanks for all the memories. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:977043712] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Ugh, the switch to Daylight Wasting Time always fucks with me.I'm trying here but I woke up to only ten new posts. How do we find scum with that? How do the rest of us get more interested with that?Our votes aren't locked today, right? Meaning... I can actually pursue people? It was that shit that got me to check out in the first place.Let's throw a vote down. ##vote: BrohanLet's see if he replies to this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 11/05/23 8:38:10 AM #59:	BlueCrystalTear posted... Ugh, the switch to Daylight Wasting Time always fucks with me. I'm trying here but I woke up to only ten new posts. How do we find scum with that? How do the rest of us get more interested with that? Our votes aren't locked today, right? Meaning... I can actually pursue people? It was that shit that got me to check out in the first place. Let's throw a vote down. ##vote: Brohan Let's see if he replies to this. I actually like this post. You know what I almost completely forgot about brohan ##Unvote ##Vote:Brohan let's see if BCT is keeping up his momentum from last game. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:977043806] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite><quote>Ugh, the switch to Daylight Wasting Time always fucks with me.I'm trying here but I woke up to only ten new posts. How do we find scum with that? How do the rest of us get more interested with that?Our votes aren't locked today, right? Meaning... I can actually pursue people? It was that shit that got me to check out in the first place.Let's throw a vote down. ##vote: BrohanLet's see if he replies to this.</quote>I actually like this post. You know whatI almost completely forgot about brohan ##Unvote##Vote:Brohan let's see if BCT is keeping up his momentum from last game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 11/05/23 9:35:22 AM #60:	Holy hell this topic is dead. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:977044438] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Holy hell this topic is dead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 11/05/23 9:40:40 AM #61:	red13n posted... The order of events here needs clarification. Oh and the womdering here, JC is implying knowledge about the switch bringing about the need to use chain hunt. Doesn't make sense to me. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:977044507] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>red13n posted... </cite><quote>The order of events here needs clarification.</quote>Oh and the womdering here, JC is implying knowledge about the switch bringing about the need to use chain hunt.Doesn't make sense to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 11/05/23 9:42:18 AM #62:	Votals Brohan [2]: BCT, Sultan Sultan [1]: IGCD Wallz [0]: (Sultan) Time change has not affected the day action deadline, which is in a bit over 10 hours. With 13 alive, a majority of 7 votes is required to condemn a player. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:977044527] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>VotalsBrohan [2]: BCT, SultanSultan [1]: IGCDWallz [0]: (Sultan)Time change has not affected the day action deadline, which is in a bit over 10 hours. With 13 alive, a majority of 7 votes is required to condemn a player. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 9:45:52 AM #63:	TheSultanOfSlam posted... Holy hell this topic is dead. One factor is probably our anomosity towards JC. I know a part of me at least wants to lynch him today. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977044580] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>TheSultanOfSlam posted...</cite><quote>Holy hell this topic is dead. </quote>One factor is probably our anomosity towards JC.I know a part of me at least wants to lynch him today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 11/05/23 10:05:25 AM #64:	Obellisk posted... Sultan, JC, Wallz. 1 of you is guaranteed scum. Please state the case for the one that is and the one that isn't (other than yourself) --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:977044808] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Obellisk posted... </cite><quote>Sultan, JC, Wallz. 1 of you is guaranteed scum. Please state the case for the one that is and the one that isn't (other than yourself)</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 11/05/23 10:20:31 AM #65:	TheSultanOfSlam posted... So you being inactive and when you do come back you're just being a bit lazy isn't your scum tell? Nope and if I'm going to be lynched I'm not going to fight it, like I've said I have really lost my drive for playing. I have almost never gotten caught up as either alignment when I fall behind the difference is that as scum I'll pretend to be caught up because I have a team to just tell me what's up. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:977045011] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>TheSultanOfSlam posted... </cite><quote>So you being inactive and when you do come back you're just being a bit lazy isn't your scum tell?</quote>Nope and if I'm going to be lynched I'm not going to fight it, like I've said I have really lost my drive for playing. I have almost never gotten caught up as either alignment when I fall behind the difference is that as scum I'll pretend to be caught up because I have a team to just tell me what's up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 11/05/23 10:22:42 AM #66:	Obellisk posted... Sultan, JC, Wallz. 1 of you is guaranteed scum. Please state the case for the one that is and the one that isn't (other than yourself) Frankly I dont think theres a great case for either one of them being town. The biggest thing in Sultans favor is his profanity laced outburst towards crescent, but I dont think we should assume that would automatically result in a modkiil if it was scum on town. Otherwise sultan has done a couple things rubbing me the wrong way. I dont mind people voting me with sound reasoning be it right or wrong but his reasoning has never been solid imo, and hes content to just park the vote on me without telling other people why he thinks Im scum and trying to rally any other votes into me. Feels like hes on autopilot and without the excuse of champs this time. then you have the fact Sultan definitely has been a bit more serious than usual this game. His posts feel a little more calculated. That alone doesnt mean anything but I definitely feel like as town he basically just plays loose/light with a ditzy lighthearted vibe before he nails someone on a read I never couldve come up. Lol. jc basically claimed scum. I think FD winning the game is utter bullshit. Would absolutely lynch. Sorry sbell if I get a D- on my homework but Im not going to tell you Id read either one of them as town. They are two of the three best lynch candidates today imo along with probably Ashe based on Ben being confirmed town and an Ulti memorial lynch. Dumey also gives me scum vibes this game so hes definitely in the convo. --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:977045036] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Obellisk posted... </cite><quote>Sultan, JC, Wallz. 1 of you is guaranteed scum. Please state the case for the one that is and the one that isn't (other than yourself)</quote>Frankly I dont think theres a great case for either one of them being town. The biggest thing in Sultans favor is his profanity laced outburst towards crescent, but I dont think we should assume that would automatically result in a modkiil if it was scum on town. Otherwise sultan has done a couple things rubbing me the wrong way. I dont mind people voting me with sound reasoning be it right or wrong but his reasoning has never been solid imo, and hes content to just park the vote on me without telling other people why he thinks Im scum and trying to rally any other votes into me. Feels like hes on autopilot and without the excuse of champs this time.then you have the fact Sultan definitely has been a bit more serious than usual this game. His posts feel a little more calculated. That alone doesnt mean anything but I definitely feel like as town he basically just plays loose/light with a ditzy lighthearted vibe before he nails someone on a read I never couldve come up. Lol.jc basically claimed scum. I think FD winning the game is utter bullshit. Would absolutely lynch.Sorry sbell if I get a D- on my homework but Im not going to tell you Id read either one of them as town. They are two of the three best lynch candidates today imo along with probably Ashe based on Ben being confirmed town and an Ulti memorial lynch. Dumey also gives me scum vibes this game so hes definitely in the convo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 11/05/23 10:24:33 AM #67:	What exactly happened with Crescent? If you guys give me topics and where to start I'll go read it. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:977045063] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>What exactly happened with Crescent? If you guys give me topics and where to start I'll go read it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 10:27:44 AM #68:	She got replaced for one thing but we didnt get a concrete reason for that. (Ulike with Lea, whom we can assume replaced out due to feeling sick) Crescent had a heated argument with Sultan near the end of topic2 (I think). reading her end of day1 posts is also worthwhile for you probably. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977045109] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>She got replaced for one thing but we didnt get a concrete reason for that.(Ulike with Lea, whom we can assume replaced out due to feeling sick)Crescent had a heated argument with Sultan near the end of topic2 (I think). reading her end of day1 posts is also worthwhile for you probably. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 11/05/23 10:32:55 AM #69:	wallmasterz posted... jc basically claimed scum. I think FD winning the game is utter bullshit. Would absolutely lynch. Where was this, exactly? (I also note there's another replacement request, which could be Brohan, but I'm not letting that affect anything. If it is him, I'll unvote. I'm just trying to get more people active.) --- Help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered! RIP Bob Barker (1923 - 2023) - and thanks for all the memories. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:977045183] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>jc basically claimed scum. I think FD winning the game is utter bullshit. Would absolutely lynch.</quote>Where was this, exactly? (I also note there's another replacement request, which could be Brohan, but I'm not letting that affect anything. If it is him, I'll unvote. I'm just trying to get more people active.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 10:35:37 AM #70:	Its all on the last 2 pages of topic 5 I believe --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977045232] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Its all on the last 2 pages of topic 5 I believe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 11/05/23 10:44:16 AM #71:	BlueCrystalTear posted... Where was this, exactly? (I also note there's another replacement request, which could be Brohan, but I'm not letting that affect anything. If it is him, I'll unvote. I'm just trying to get more people active.) Im just referring to his open wolfing behavior ever since he claimed responsibility for the chain hunt. And his insistence on killing FD for petty reasons even though he says he had a choice and didnt even claim to think FD was scum. --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:977045348] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite><quote>Where was this, exactly? (I also note there's another replacement request, which could be Brohan, but I'm not letting that affect anything. If it is him, I'll unvote. I'm just trying to get more people active.)</quote>Im just referring to his open wolfing behavior ever since he claimed responsibility for the chain hunt. And his insistence on killing FD for petty reasons even though he says he had a choice and didnt even claim to think FD was scum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/05/23 11:39:33 AM #72:	Does anyone else feel like JC wasn't actually giving us any input for what he did with the box? He said spare was an option, but it feels to me like he was never going to spare whoever opened it. Dumey - is there any reason you're sold on Brohan now? You seemed to be between him and FD yesterday, and now today you're between me and chang (who you didn't seem to be focusing on much yesterday) htaeD posted... I tried to see if Ben hinted at anything that he might have gotten with his scan, but its hard to look for anything, since we dont even know which scanlevel he used. Maybe he scanned BCT since he did townconfirm him and he did reveal some of his traits beforehand. (well Lea did) But his posts dont point at anything really. Ben said that the scum team learned something about him yesterday, which I think implies the second or third scan? Might have scanned Sultan, since he said he's 100% town, but he also added that it was after his blowup at Crescent so maybe not. Is Ben the type of player to leave crumbs for us to follow? --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:977046292] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Does anyone else feel like JC wasn't actually giving us any input for what he did with the box? He said spare was an option, but it feels to me like he was never going to spare whoever opened it. Dumey - is there any reason you're sold on Brohan now? You seemed to be between him and FD yesterday, and now today you're between me and chang (who you didn't seem to be focusing on much yesterday)htaeD posted... </cite><quote>I tried to see if Ben hinted at anything that he might have gotten with his scan, but its hard to look for anything, since we dont even know which scanlevel he used.Maybe he scanned BCT since he did townconfirm him and he did reveal some of his traits beforehand. (well Lea did)But his posts dont point at anything really.</quote>Ben said that the scum team learned something about him yesterday, which I think implies the second or third scan? Might have scanned Sultan, since he said he's 100% town, but he also added that it was after his blowup at Crescent so maybe not. Is Ben the type of player to leave crumbs for us to follow? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 11/05/23 12:16:13 PM #73:	I believe if Ben did have something he would definitely make it clear, especially if he had a scan on a killer. He would also know that scum knew He did ask for us to help him decide what info to give, so maybe the day ended too soon before he could solidify his plans. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977046827] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I believe if Ben did have something he would definitely make it clear, especially if he had a scan on a killer.He would also know that scum knewHe did ask for us to help him decide what info to give, so maybe the day ended too soon before he could solidify his plans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 12:21:20 PM #74:	Also I do agree that FD would probably not offer himself to the box as scum... Unless FD somehow miraclously comes back of course. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977046907] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Also I do agree that FD would probably not offer himself to the box as scum...Unless FD somehow miraclously comes back of course. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 12:23:06 PM #75:	Good morning friends. To respond to Ash since he's right above me. I still have Brohan on my scum list, but with the JC mess yesterday and probably 0 dead scum, I feel like we need to lynch someone more concretely scum. Where my argument on Brohan is just generally that his reads are bad. Which is not the strongest case. Crescent/Chang is still on my radar because of D1, but I didn't express a want to lynch Chang earlier. I actually was saying to follow Chang because it sounded like he claimed info on IGCD! But then he recanted that so that's a bust. For you, Ashethan, the only thing pulling people off of you is your claim at the moment, but there's still the oddity of you claiming odd day killer. The more I think about this, I feel like you're scum that accidentally outted themselves claiming in the wrong order. Some people may dismiss this as flavor meta, but we know the flavor split (from Ben's flip) is Solo Queue and Kill Your Friends. It makes sense for scum team to be killers while town is survivors, and vice versa. The only other person claimed to be a killer on odd days, is our Miller. Which again makes sense with the proposed flavor split. Using this argument for JC as well, his story is that he was a survivor D1, then got to choose to place his killer ability for the start of D2? I'm not sure I believe this, and I think it's very likely that JC was a killer D1, placed his box, then swapped to survivor during the night. If Ben were still alive, he would be able to scan JC and test his trait to verify this, but now that Ben is dead, that's no longer an option. The main argument in JC's favor is why would scum choose to kill FD if FD were supposedly poisoned. But maybe it's not a good idea to rely on that when FD didn't really give us all the details on that. He only said it implied he was living on borrowed time. Probably shouldn't "Clear" JC on that detail when we don't have that info 100% locked in. Ashethan posted... Is Ben the type of player to leave crumbs for us to follow? Also the answer to this question is 200% yes, but I haven't looked back at his posts yet to see if he did breadcrumb his scan or not. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977046936] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Good morning friends. To respond to Ash since he's right above me.I still have Brohan on my scum list, but with the JC mess yesterday and probably 0 dead scum, I feel like we need to lynch someone more concretely scum. Where my argument on Brohan is just generally that his reads are bad. Which is not the strongest case.Crescent/Chang is still on my radar because of D1, but I didn't express a want to lynch Chang earlier. I actually was saying to follow Chang because it sounded like he claimed info on IGCD! But then he recanted that so that's a bust.For you, Ashethan, the only thing pulling people off of you is your claim at the moment, but there's still the oddity of you claiming odd day killer. The more I think about this, I feel like you're scum that accidentally outted themselves claiming in the wrong order. Some people may dismiss this as flavor meta, but we know the flavor split (from Ben's flip) is Solo Queue and Kill Your Friends. It makes sense for scum team to be killers while town is survivors, and vice versa. The only other person claimed to be a killer on odd days, is our Miller. Which again makes sense with the proposed flavor split.Using this argument for JC as well, his story is that he was a survivor D1, then got to choose to place his killer ability for the start of D2? I'm not sure I believe this, and I think it's very likely that JC was a killer D1, placed his box, then swapped to survivor during the night. If Ben were still alive, he would be able to scan JC and test his trait to verify this, but now that Ben is dead, that's no longer an option. The main argument in JC's favor is why would scum choose to kill FD if FD were supposedly poisoned. But maybe it's not a good idea to rely on that when FD didn't really give us all the details on that. He only said it implied he was living on borrowed time. Probably shouldn't "Clear" JC on that detail when we don't have that info 100% locked in.Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>Is Ben the type of player to leave crumbs for us to follow?</quote>Also the answer to this question is 200% yes, but I haven't looked back at his posts yet to see if he did breadcrumb his scan or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 12:24:20 PM #76:	htaeD posted... Also I do agree that FD would probably not offer himself to the box as scum... Unless FD somehow miraclously comes back of course. I think he possibly could have if he assumed JC was just going to spare him, because of the "poison." But once again, we have to assume FD was town for MYLO/LYLO scum counting purposes. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977046957] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>htaeD posted... </cite><quote>Also I do agree that FD would probably not offer himself to the box as scum...Unless FD somehow miraclously comes back of course.</quote>I think he possibly could have if he assumed JC was just going to spare him, because of the "poison." But once again, we have to assume FD was town for MYLO/LYLO scum counting purposes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 12:28:16 PM #77:	I'm okay with pressuring Brohan, but my gut is telling me to just lynch Ashethan because of the claim discrepancy. Also, one more thing to note with Ashethan's claim, his final trait (the "role" trait) for his even night claim was Inquisitive, the exact same as Ben. Either this is damning because he's claiming the same ROLE as Ben, or it's possible that we had an odd night Inquisitive and an even night Inquisitive? I don't know the answer to that, but it's just one more detail on the claim that makes me wary. ##Vote: Ashethan --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977047034] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I'm okay with pressuring Brohan, but my gut is telling me to just lynch Ashethan because of the claim discrepancy. Also, one more thing to note with Ashethan's claim, his final trait (the "role" trait) for his even night claim was Inquisitive, the exact same as Ben.Either this is damning because he's claiming the same ROLE as Ben, or it's possible that we had an odd night Inquisitive and an even night Inquisitive? I don't know the answer to that, but it's just one more detail on the claim that makes me wary.##Vote: Ashethan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 12:31:17 PM #78:	I guess here's an open question to everyone. Is anyone else other than Ashe and our claimed miller Red a killer on odd days? --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977047083] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I guess here's an open question to everyone. Is anyone else other than Ashe and our claimed miller Red a killer on odd days? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 12:33:42 PM #79:	Uhm at the very least I believe we know that traits can share the same name but not the same power? --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977047127] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Uhm at the very least I believe we know that traits can share the same name but not the same power? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 12:35:33 PM #80:	Ashethan, who did you visit last night, and why wasn't it JC? --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977047171] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan, who did you visit last night, and why wasn't it JC? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 12:37:02 PM #81:	Oh? Now we're getting spicy. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977047200] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Oh?Now we're getting spicy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 12:38:34 PM #82:	htaeD posted... Uhm at the very least I believe we know that traits can share the same name but not the same power? Do we know this or do we think this? As far as I remember, the only evidence we have of this is Sultan saying his Feline Grace trait actually does something, and is not a vanilla trait like Ulti's was. Sultan, can you answer me, does your Feline Grace explicitly say that it has a purpose, or are you assuming it does based on the flavor? --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977047234] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>htaeD posted... </cite><quote>Uhm at the very least I believe we know that traits can share the same name but not the same power?</quote>Do we know this or do we think this? As far as I remember, the only evidence we have of this is Sultan saying his Feline Grace trait actually does something, and is not a vanilla trait like Ulti's was.Sultan, can you answer me, does your Feline Grace explicitly say that it has a purpose, or are you assuming it does based on the flavor? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 12:39:53 PM #83:	I believe the rules said something to that effect But we didnt have examples of that until the Feline Grace thing yeah --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977047268] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I believe the rules said something to that effectBut we didnt have examples of that until the Feline Grace thing yeah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 12:42:58 PM #84:	Additional information I forgot to mention: Traits may be identical or have similar names, but their descriptions may vary. Okay, it didnt state it as exactly as I remembered. But it doesnt rule it out either I think. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977047316] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote><quote>Additional information I forgot to mention: Traits may be identical or have similar names, but their descriptions may vary.</quote>Okay, it didnt state it as exactly as I remembered. But it doesnt rule it out either I think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 11/05/23 12:45:09 PM #85:	EDumey posted... Ashethan, who did you visit last night, and why wasn't it JC? May I ask how you know he didn't visit JC? I'm not reading anything of the sort from his one post today. --- Help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered! RIP Bob Barker (1923 - 2023) - and thanks for all the memories. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:977047353] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>EDumey posted... </cite><quote>Ashethan, who did you visit last night, and why wasn't it JC?</quote>May I ask how you know he didn't visit JC? I'm not reading anything of the sort from his one post today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 12:46:22 PM #86:	Yeah, it's vague enough that I wouldn't feel confident saying one way or the other. I feel like that could just mean "Ulti and Sultan have the same vanilla trait, but the flavor I wrote for each character is a bit different." But this is just my intuition speaking, but for Ben to have an Inquisitive role that detailed and unique of a scanner, for Isquen to just throw in another Inquisitive role and have it do something different, with the same name? That sounds really wrong. I won't condemn Ashethan off of this flavor meta, but I am counting it as "one more weird thing about the claim." Ashethan did exclude what his Inquisitive did when he initially claimed, which I was fine with at the time, but now it's time for answers. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977047370] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it's vague enough that I wouldn't feel confident saying one way or the other. I feel like that could just mean "Ulti and Sultan have the same vanilla trait, but the flavor I wrote for each character is a bit different."But this is just my intuition speaking, but for Ben to have an Inquisitive role that detailed and unique of a scanner, for Isquen to just throw in another Inquisitive role and have it do something different, with the same name? That sounds really wrong. I won't condemn Ashethan off of this flavor meta, but I am counting it as "one more weird thing about the claim."Ashethan did exclude what his Inquisitive did when he initially claimed, which I was fine with at the time, but now it's time for answers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 12:48:15 PM #87:	BlueCrystalTear posted... May I ask how you know he didn't visit JC? I'm not reading anything of the sort from his one post today. Guess we'll have to wait for Ashethan to confirm. :) --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977047401] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite><quote>May I ask how you know he didn't visit JC? I'm not reading anything of the sort from his one post today.</quote>Guess we'll have to wait for Ashethan to confirm. :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 11/05/23 1:00:54 PM #88:	EDumey posted... Guess we'll have to wait for Ashethan to confirm. :) I don't know about that, seeing as I know for a fact that you didn't do anything last night. There's no way you could know anything about Ethan visiting someone other than JC at night unless said person was you and Ethan's role makes his presence known... or you have a scumbuddy who told you. What makes me think it was the latter is that you haven't claimed being visited. Plus there's something else you haven't said that really has my attention. ##unvote ##vote: Dumey --- Help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered! RIP Bob Barker (1923 - 2023) - and thanks for all the memories. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:977047606] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>EDumey posted... </cite><quote>Guess we'll have to wait for Ashethan to confirm. :)</quote>I don't know about that, seeing as I know for a fact that you didn't do anything last night. There's no way you could know anything about Ethan visiting someone other than JC at night unless said person was you and Ethan's role makes his presence known... or you have a scumbuddy who told you. What makes me think it was the latter is that you haven't claimed being visited. Plus there's something else you haven't said that really has my attention. ##unvote##vote: Dumey </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 1:02:59 PM #89:	...Though I don't know if Ashethan is even around to respond, so let's not let the day stall out on that. BCT, humor me for a moment and answer something about your opinion on JC. I don't think you said anything about him today except frustration over not being to vote. Assume JC is town, and believes FD is poisoned and going to die anyway. Do you think him choosing to kill FD, obscure his flip from town, and gain an Untargettable trait has town equity? Assume JC is scum, and knows whether FD is poisoned or not. Do you think him choosing to kill FD makes sense if FD was going to die anyway, for the sake of powering up? --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977047642] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>...Though I don't know if Ashethan is even around to respond, so let's not let the day stall out on that.BCT, humor me for a moment and answer something about your opinion on JC. I don't think you said anything about him today except frustration over not being to vote.Assume JC is town, and believes FD is poisoned and going to die anyway. Do you think him choosing to kill FD, obscure his flip from town, and gain an Untargettable trait has town equity?Assume JC is scum, and knows whether FD is poisoned or not. Do you think him choosing to kill FD makes sense if FD was going to die anyway, for the sake of powering up? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 1:07:04 PM #90:	well i didn't refresh obviously, lol. BCT, I did not claim any info on Ashethan. You're acting too hastily. Why not let Ashethan respond for himself and see if he slips up? --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977047700] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>well i didn't refresh obviously, lol.BCT, I did not claim any info on Ashethan. You're acting too hastily. Why not let Ashethan respond for himself and see if he slips up? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 1:16:05 PM #91:	BCT is town lol --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977047817] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>BCT is town lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 1:17:32 PM #92:	Well at the very least I find that a very towny reaction from BCT. But it was probably better to let things play out for a bit there yeah. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977047838] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Well at the very least I find that a very towny reaction from BCT.But it was probably better to let things play out for a bit there yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/05/23 1:19:43 PM #93:	Your suspicions are fair, Dumey. I'll go into more detail if I have to, but I'd rather hold off a little more. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:977047861] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Your suspicions are fair, Dumey. I'll go into more detail if I have to, but I'd rather hold off a little more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 1:20:19 PM #94:	also i think yes it's quite likely that Ben picked this option: ##stakeout 2 <target> provides you with information on how many traits the target has in total, and will inform you if your result has been tampered with in some way (but not in what manner.) You will be noticed doing this. --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977047870] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>also i think yes it's quite likely that Ben picked this option: ##stakeout 2 <target> provides you with information on how many traits the target has in total, and will inform you if your result has been tampered with in some way (but not in what manner.) You will be noticed doing this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 11/05/23 1:22:09 PM #95:	or actually wait that would notify the player he visited, not the scum team. it's only option 3 that notifies the scum team hmmm --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:977047910] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>or actually wait that would notify the player he visited, not the scum team. it's only option 3 that notifies the scum team hmmm </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 1:27:45 PM #96:	Its possible scum had a similar power and they used it on Ben (of all people) and thats why he was informed as well. Oh and Ashethan I think you should claim everything you have. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977048002] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>Its possible scum had a similar power and they used it on Ben (of all people) and thats why he was informed as well.Oh and Ashethan I think you should claim everything you have. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 1:28:36 PM #97:	For the record I do agree that BCT is town with that kind of attempt to catch something. I already thought Lea/BCT was town aligned before, but that just kind of cements it for me that all of Lea, Ulti, and Ben on the Ashethan lynch D1 was pure town. Just Corrik as the random card there, but his vote was there from the start of the day. Ashethan posted... Your suspicions are fair, Dumey. I'll go into more detail if I have to, but I'd rather hold off a little more. I don't want you to wait for responses from the scum board. This is a bad reply. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977048013] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>For the record I do agree that BCT is town with that kind of attempt to catch something.I already thought Lea/BCT was town aligned before, but that just kind of cements it for me that all of Lea, Ulti, and Ben on the Ashethan lynch D1 was pure town. Just Corrik as the random card there, but his vote was there from the start of the day.Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>Your suspicions are fair, Dumey. I'll go into more detail if I have to, but I'd rather hold off a little more.</quote>I don't want you to wait for responses from the scum board. This is a bad reply. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/05/23 1:46:59 PM #99:	whosawhatsitwha? --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:977048305] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>whosawhatsitwha? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 11/05/23 1:50:52 PM #100:	I'm looking up the Dead by Daylight wiki, but Enchantress only seems to come up for a nurse skin? Is this FD speaking from the dead? Or scum messing with us. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:977048372] in Dead by Da... [t:80611617]...</cite> <quote>I'm looking up the Dead by Daylight wiki, but Enchantress only seems to come up for a nurse skin? Is this FD speaking from the dead? Or scum messing with us. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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