Current Events > Baba Is You is fucking hard >_> (spoiler?)

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Nvm that one's easy af

Favorite level so far?

Maybe the one that introduced not-noun statements

this level made me feel smart

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This level ("Out at Sea") is an Extra level but bears no resemblance to the one it connects to. This one feels impossible. You need to be able to unlock the door by pushing an ice block but then be able to push lava down into the box. You only have one IF block so only one of them can be pushed at once. And there's a one-way so once you pass the belt you can't adjust them, and there's not enough space in the little area to bring a statement with you

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aha
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That one was a huge hurdle for me. The concept of fusing text blew my mind

My latest wall, "Pillarwork"

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Really unclear how the pieces fit together in this one. "Falling" doesn't interact with "Pull" how you might expect, for example.

I watched Vinesauce play the game thinking it would be therapeutic to see someone work over the early levels but it's just kind of frustrating lol. When you're this far into Baba, it's like in The Matrix where they're looking at all the binary on the screen and just see the image. You have to be able to put together any trivial combination at a glance to be able to conceptualize the novel solutions the later levels require.

cool
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Actually a bit more work is required. You can raise up the other blocks above the center alcove so you have a chance to disable the 'pull' rule without falling down, then push 'is' using the 'push' block and walk onto a flag. Trying what's in the picture doesn't count as touching the flag if you push down 'FLAG' then walk left.

Baba is hard

Not clear to me how the GROUP noun functions.

Seems to just be a convoluted way to assign another noun a second word in case you have a second GROUP noun.

New tenth level appears. Now I figure I can eventually get to the dot in the lower right. I would speculate another level is in the star & moon corner but there's already been a space exploration theme and void theme.

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oh shit
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?
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I guess lonely can be an adjective?

Mountaintop has some of my favorite levels in the game. Good luck!

You've made really good progress very quickly, I have to say. I think Pillar Work and Coronation in lava world took me 3 days collectively lol

Man, this game brings back memories. I think I needed help in like 6-7 puzzles

I was scared of Coronation on account of being an Extra but I find that the less pieces are available to play with, the better I can do. All I could do was play with the text. For me Mousehole was really hard, which also introduced that idea of using swap to occupy one slot with two things.

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This is an insidious level IMO, since there's many different ideas or sequences that look promising but just lock up the game, until you realize you kind of need to do all of it but in the right order. Took me a while to realize I didn't need to move the rock off the middle right wall once I got it into the other area.

Pillarwork demanded a lot of outside the box thinking. I got on the right track when I decided Baba definitely needs to fall.

I didn't post about it, but "Trapped" could've been a very long wall for me.

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Basically only realized I could make the belt not shift by accident. Instead I noticed that the upper box shifts object to the right when box is shift and wanted to use that to align Baba on the right wall. Unfortunately that still causes you to face that wall. The solution to shift the box with Baba feel almost barbarian by this point in the game.

Doe posted...

oh shit
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:0

Almost to the part where it takes off the kid gloves.

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This was frustrating

Well there's no new levels so I tried to do "A Way Out" again remembering it sucks all your pollen into the big flower

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Here we go, I feel like i tried this before but not sure

So there's something pitch black happening

Text was hide

OK so that ... gave me 1 orb?

Eab1990 posted...

I stopped after the map where you had to turn one object to two. Watched Vinny play through the same stage and both him and his audience called it a bullshit solution that apparently never again comes into play, but it still made me feel stupid for not getting it on my own.

This level was such a big difficulty outlier in the first release that in a later update they moved it to a special level and replaced its spot in the numbering with a level designed to teach the same concept in a different and more easily comprehensible way. Basically that single level got a tutorial added just for it.

The part about it never coming into play again though is just a lie, you'll definitely make use of that mechanic later

Speaking of which, trying to cook here

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But not sure if I'm accomplishing

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It's a level-based puzzle game where you really have to think outside the box. The goal of each level is to win, by touching an object that has the "win" property. But all the rules that govern how objects act, what objects are, how they can be interacted with, etc are also objects in the game field itself. There's a wall in your way? Go find the WALL IS STOP and move one of the words somewhere else and suddenly you can just walk through the wall. Or maybe replace STOP with WIN and now you win when you touch the wall. Or replace it with YOU and now you control the wall instead of whatever you were controlling before

Game seems incredible but also insanely hard. I beat Stephen's Sausage Roll with barely any help but this game has me stumped early

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this will totally help me right

Accidentally collected the flag fuck

Beefbud posted...

Game seems incredible but also insanely hard. I beat Stephen's Sausage Roll with barely any help but this game has me stumped early

Ye, the game is great but it (and Patrick's Parabox) really represent the "cute and fun little puzzle game turned testicular torsion generator" hard. At a certain point the game is *actively* trying to kill you IRL with some of the utter nonsense that it is trying to pull (that last level was waaaay too BS).

Doe posted...

But not sure if I'm accomplishing

You are actually pretty close to a breakthrough though, IIRC, you have to restart from just a bit before where you are there as you made a minor boo-boo.

Doe posted...

this will totally help me right

ROFL.

Interesting you group parabox in with it, maybe it gets really hard in the last 2% of the game or something but I found most of it so braindead I just kinda dropped the game. It's a really good example I think of why every puzzle game needs a few red herrings in it since parabox solutions gradually get more and more complex but they never really get any more difficult

My other favourite cute -> impossible puzzle game is paquerette down the bunburrows, definitely recommend to anyone who likes level-based puzzle games that eventually just go off the deep end

Oh God, I'm not touching Bunburrows. That one looks sadistic by the end, especially if you are going for 100% (which I view as required for this sort of game).

And yeah, it's all about the last little bit. In both games they are mostly tame for a good 50%, tricky for 48%, and then psychopathic for the last 2%. As with all of these sorts of games how they are easier or harder based on how you personally view things. So because I tend to play a lot more word-based logic puzzles (mainly through mystery games, but also stuff like Heaven's Vault or Chants of Sennaar) I found Baba Is You much easier than Patrick's Parabox. It's in that sort of rationale that I feel that in a generic sense both are reasonably close to each other in difficulty, and it's more about what type of stuff I spend more time doing otherwise that really makes the "true" difference in difficulty.

I dont know your status on Mountaintop but a LOT of people got stuck on Floatiest Platform. Those two levels are awesome imo.

You're close to a breakthrough as an above poster said. If you're totally out of levels or stuck I'll try to nudge you in the right direction

ellis123 posted...

especially if you are going for 100%

funny thing is that bunburrows has (had?) an achievement for 100% with the descriptive text "that we know of..." and the community later found another 20%ish. Game's so complex even the devs aren't even sure all the possible things you can do as solutions

kirbymuncher posted...

funny thing is that bunburrows has (had?) an achievement for 100% with the descriptive text "that we know of..." and the community later found another 20%ish. Game's so complex even the devs aren't even sure all the possible things you can do as solutions

This game looks very interesting I may give it a try

kirbymuncher posted...

funny thing is that bunburrows has (had?) an achievement for 100% with the descriptive text "that we know of..." and the community later found another 20%ish. Game's so complex even the devs aren't even sure all the possible things you can do as solutions

That doesn't surprise me. I saw it ages ago when it came out and when I looked into some of the mechanics (through a simple review video) I instantly had my entire brain go up with red flags for how much utter nonsense you would have to do if you wanted to hit the last little bit (specifically the baby buns).

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worried this isn't actually gonna increase the bonus counter and I'm wasting time

KalimariX8 posted...

I dont know your status on Mountaintop but a LOT of people got stuck on Floatiest Platform. Those two levels are awesome imo.

The thing with floatiest platform is the solution I used (Disordered You/Is/Rcok against the right of the screen to let the Babas stack was how I wanted to solve the non-Extra version. A level in the Void area (I believe "Lonely Sight") was also solved by stacking Baba (with use of the "On" rule somehow, I think "Baba On Baba is X"). When I flipped between Floaty and Floatiest to check the difference (Door not being Push) I saw it was possible now. Felt kinda sneaky of the level designers IMO

Yeah I guess you can only get 1 orb claim from that level. The path extends one space to the right on the map screen but doesn't lead anywhere

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Nor did turning the orb into text as I occupied it give me a separate text bonus >_>

Doe posted...

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worried this isn't actually gonna increase the bonus counter and I'm wasting time

The thing with floatiest platform is the solution I used (Disordered You/Is/Rcok against the right of the screen to let the Babas stack was how I wanted to solve the non-Extra version. A level in the Void area (I believe "Lonely Sight") was also solved by stacking Baba (with use of the "On" rule somehow, I think "Baba On Baba is X"). When I flipped between Floaty and Floatiest to check the difference (Door not being Push) I saw it was possible now. Felt kinda sneaky of the level designers IMO

In hindsight it's pretty obvious the size of the outskirts of the level is significantly different. In the moment it's not something you really think about. Also, the win condition of not being LONELY is eluding just because you're preoccupied with staying on the tiles.
Pretty clever

It has to be here. I must be able to make Level Is Flag

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Here. We. Go.
One of my favorite twists in all of gaming

cadcrafter posted...

Here. We. Go.
One of my favorite twists in all of gaming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb2fjZa_L74

That one isn't too too bad. The ones I hate are the ones that were added in I think last years update? with the full 3d mazes. Those are a pain in the ass.

Ivany2008 posted...

That one isn't too too bad. The ones I hate are the ones that were added in I think last years update? with the full 3d mazes. Those are a pain in the ass.

Only the first world or so of New Adventures have the super gimmicky stuff. After that it becomes standard Baba.

I agree with you though, the 3D levels are a huge pain in the ass. Did there really have to be like 4 of them? Lol

KalimariX8 posted...

Only the first world or so of New Adventures have the super gimmicky stuff. After that it becomes standard Baba.

I agree with you though, the 3D levels are a huge pain in the ass. Did there really have to be like 4 of them? Lol

wait until you get to the custom levels. People made dozens of them, and all of them are annoying.

Custom levels in this kind of game must suck because they're gonna be about exploiting really obscure quirks in the engine. Look at what people did in Mario Maker, and that at least had the possibility of actually platforming so you had some sane levels between the rube Goldberg machines

Doe posted...

Custom levels in this kind of game must suck because they're gonna be about exploiting really obscure quirks in the engine. Look at what people did in Mario Maker, and that at least had the possibility of actually platforming so you had some sane levels between the rube Goldberg machines

They can be that. They can also be like I posted in #8. Another fun one is Galaga recreated in Baba is You.

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this level blows

Ivany2008 posted...

wait until you get to the custom levels. People made dozens of them, and all of them are annoying.

Custom levels aren't in the story mode right? Just for fun downloadable ones?

I dont really have any interest playing fan levels. They're always crowded with rules and ugly