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MarthGoomba
11/05/23 8:33:37 PM
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How such a garbage key layout became the norm is incredibly stupid. The very first PC keyboards should have forced everyone to adapt to Soul.

It's magnitudes more efficient

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Agonized_rufous
11/05/23 8:35:30 PM
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Is it really worth relearning?

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ablegator
11/05/23 8:35:42 PM
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Ok

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FolkenRawr
11/05/23 8:36:27 PM
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Tf is Soul?

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Shishiwakamaru
11/05/23 8:37:39 PM
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Qwertyuiop
asdfghjkl
zxcvbnm

Wow I just typed out the qwerty letter order and it was like second nature

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MarthGoomba
11/05/23 8:38:43 PM
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Agonized_rufous posted...
Is it really worth relearning?
If you type a lot

The biggest flaw with qwerty is j and k being very uncommon letters but having premium spots. It creates so much unnecessary movement

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Forty_Niners
11/05/23 8:38:54 PM
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
Qwertyuiop
asdfghjkl
zxcvbnm

Wow I just typed out the qwerty letter order and it was like second nature
I too can drag my hand across the keyboard.

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furb
11/05/23 8:38:56 PM
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Dvorak time

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MarthGoomba
11/05/23 8:39:26 PM
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FolkenRawr posted...
Tf is Soul?
http://kennetchaz.github.io/symmetric-typing/soul.html

the superior way to type

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Sufferedphoneix
11/05/23 9:08:35 PM
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I've heard two things on qwerty. First I heard was all the most common letters where on the home row which is bs cause e isn't on it. The second I heard was it was to slow your typing down cause people where jamming up typewriters by typing too fast. That one sounds plausible but idk for a fact

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Slaya4
11/05/23 9:11:12 PM
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Qwerty is hot garbage been saying for years now. I switched to Halmak, but anything is better than qwerty.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/05/23 9:13:38 PM
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Slaya4 posted...
Qwerty is hot garbage been saying for years now. I switched to Halmak, but anything is better than qwerty.

I'm honestly amazed I remember how to type going long periods of time not doing it. I mean like years. And when I do type it's usually something just like a username and password. I don't have a computer anymore but I sometimes gotta log onto something at work.

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Ricemills
11/05/23 9:51:06 PM
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Poor Dvorak got no love

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Kim_Seong-a
11/05/23 9:53:41 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
How such a garbage key layout became the norm is incredibly stupid.

it was created for typewriters. by the time its benefits were no longer relevant most everyone was just too used to it <_<

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Guide
11/05/23 9:59:10 PM
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The muscle memory and standardization is far too valuable to adjust now. I can go anywhere and type up anything without effort, which, while usually for boring things, still a pretty neat societal power to have.

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Bringit
11/05/23 10:08:56 PM
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Guide posted...
The muscle memory and standardization is far too valuable to adjust now. I can go anywhere and type up anything without effort, which, while usually for boring things, still a pretty neat societal power to have.
Yup, don't underestimate muscle memory. There are passwords I have straight up forgotten and basically used The Force to type and get me back into an account.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/05/23 10:12:39 PM
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Bringit posted...
Yup, don't underestimate muscle memory. There are passwords I have straight up forgotten and basically used The Force to type and get me back into an account.

I'm like that with video games. Someone will ask me how to do this or that and I'll end up telling them to hand me the controller so I can do it then tell them

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FL81
11/05/23 10:16:50 PM
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  • all of these other keyboard formats
  • they can't just adapt the most simple idea: alphabetical order
no thanks

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DementedDurian
11/05/23 10:25:04 PM
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FL81 posted...
* all of these other keyboard formats
* they can't just adapt the most simple idea: alphabetical order
no thanks

Even though I'm so used to QWERTY, I would actually like that idea.

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faizan_faizan
11/05/23 10:28:32 PM
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Skill issue.

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SiO4
11/05/23 10:31:13 PM
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CE, are we not aware that what we call now as QWERTY was designed to slow down typing.

Typewriters hammers would back up if you went too fast. Then you would have to fix it and continue. It still would happen after QWERTY. I did it myself, but I was probably trying to.

That is why our key layout is the way it is.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/05/23 10:35:04 PM
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SiO4 posted...
CE, are we not aware that what we call now as QWERTY was designed to slow down typing.

Typewriters hammers would back if you went too fast.

That is why our key layout is the way it is.

I mentioned that earlier.

Here's what I don't get. How the hell does this translate to touch screen. I'm typing right now and not looking at the "keyboard"

Weird

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SiO4
11/05/23 11:02:39 PM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...


I mentioned that earlier.

Here's what I don't get. How the hell does this translate to touch screen. I'm typing right now and not looking at the "keyboard"

Weird


Yup. I have to deal with that at work right now. Its a complete pain in the ass

Phone numbers suck.
The ones I type in aren't even
hyphenated. Once you've hunt and peck them down.

I know it's muscle memory but still it's janky.

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LoveLikeJazz
11/05/23 11:55:03 PM
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So what was the keyboard layout before qwerty that was too fast for typewriters?

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Guide
11/05/23 11:56:26 PM
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SiO4 posted...
CE, are we not aware that what we call now as QWERTY was designed to slow down typing.

Typewriters hammers would back up if you went too fast. Then you would have to fix it and continue. It still would happen after QWERTY. I did it myself, but I was probably trying to.

That is why our key layout is the way it is.

That's an old myth that has been debunked on the internet for longer than I've been on on this site. QWERTY was intended for speed via spacing out common letter pairing, since alternating hands is considered faster than using just one.

But if you really care about speed, this is the wrong dimension. You want to go to stenography.

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