Current Events > It kinda sucks that the New Republic is so inept and stupid *Ahsoka spoilers*

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Episode 5 spoilers.

... so you have received evidence of a bunch of bad-guys making a craft capable of TRANS-GALAXY warp, and two of your most capable and trusted people have said that this is a bad idea, and you're gonna just basically call them liars and try to remove the general from her position?

Why is the New Republic basically massively inept and stupid at nearly every point?

To explain the sequels. I knew the first time I watched Episode 7 that the EU for the New Republic would be screwed.

Probably being sabotaged by remnants of the empire. Theyve shown some crumbs for this across the series of this era like Mandalorian.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Probably being sabotaged by remnants of the empire. Theyve shown some crumbs for this across the series of this era like Mandalorian.

I guess that is as good an explanation as any. Agents from "The Empire" basically got ingrained into every political body during the rise of Palpatine, so it stands to reason those agents may still be around.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Probably being sabotaged by remnants of the empire. Theyve shown some crumbs for this across the series of this era like Mandalorian.

I mean that's literally how the bad guys were able to build the super hyperspace ring or whatever.

While I don't necessarily like the heavy handed story telling surrounding the New Republic and it's general ineptitude (this is elsewhere in the Didney canon, not just in Ahsoka), it is trying to lay the groundwork that there are power vacuums and bureaucratic inefficiencies that would allow an organization as large as the First Order to grow.

Combine that with the... Unwillingness of the New Republic to commit to a proper defense fleet and it's easier to see why the Sequels happened the way they did.

Though honestly I'd rather they just did a hard reset on that era but Didney would never.

wackyteen posted...

I mean that's literally how the bad guys were able to build the super hyperspace ring or whatever.

While I don't necessarily like the heavy handed story telling surrounding the New Republic and it's general ineptitude (this is elsewhere in the Didney canon, not just in Ahsoka), it is trying to lay the groundwork that there are power vacuums and bureaucratic inefficiencies that would allow an organization as large as the First Order to grow.

Combine that with the... Unwillingness of the New Republic to commit to a proper defense fleet and it's easier to see why the Sequels happened the way they did.

Though honestly I'd rather they just did a hard reset on that era but Didney would never.

Yup, nail on the head. SW writers who care about the universe need to justify why the New Republic would fail so utterly in the sequels, so they must be inept and corrupt at every turn, basically. I would be pretty annoyed with it if I didn't understand they need to build to the sequel trilogy.

I barely know what Ahsoka is but reading these posts, I wish they had explained a fraction of any of this in Episode 7.

When (big episode 7 spoilers) they blew up the planet with the New Republic on it, I didn't even really care because I didn't even know there was a New Republic so it just felt like some totally random planet.

The New Republic being stretched thin wouldve accomplished the same end result without hurting attachment. I wouldnt have been pissed if they said Id love to investigate it but were still fighting the remnants of admirals still in this galaxy.

wackyteen posted...

I mean that's literally how the bad guys were able to build the super hyperspace ring or whatever.

While I don't necessarily like the heavy handed story telling surrounding the New Republic and it's general ineptitude (this is elsewhere in the Didney canon, not just in Ahsoka), it is trying to lay the groundwork that there are power vacuums and bureaucratic inefficiencies that would allow an organization as large as the First Order to grow.

Combine that with the... Unwillingness of the New Republic to commit to a proper defense fleet and it's easier to see why the Sequels happened the way they did.

Though honestly I'd rather they just did a hard reset on that era but Didney would never.

Right? Youd think after ending a war, there would be whole military departments dedicated to eradication of any lingering threats. Instead they just welcomed most ex empire staff to work on the new republic. Seems very idealist and cartoonishly incompetent.

Then again a much better explanation than whatever ep 7 did.

That's been a common trend for the Republic across basically all eras of Star Wars.

A government that's bureaucratically incompetent at best and corrupt at worst. Then they get blindsided by the bad guys, the bad guys eventually lose, the Republic gets reinstated and rinse and repeat

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

That's been a common trend for the Republic across basically all eras of Star Wars.

A government that's bureaucratically incompetent at best and corrupt at worst. Then they get blindsided by the bad guys, the bad guys eventually lose, the Republic gets reinstated and rinse and repeat

It's very frustrating. You'd think there'd at least be a window of competency while Leia, Mon Mothma, General Syndulla, and Jedi Master Luke Skywalker were in charge, but nope. Even if they made a good film for Episode 9, I have zero hope that the newest generation will be more successful.

One of my biggest hopes for Episode 7 was seeing what the New Republic was like in the post Empire world. Surely the writers would move the world forward, and the be government would have learned something from the Clone Wars and Palpatine's rise to power.

But nope.

Space whales.

They had me at space whales.

But guys, if the "good government" is competent, then there's no way for it to be overthrown by a "bad government", and if there's no bad government, then how will we be able to tell stories of plucky rebels beating a superior foe?

Because that's literally the only story we know how to tell.