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TeamSilent4Life
11/06/23 3:13:27 PM
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I've just come off the phone to the police and now I'm really worried. I reported threats against me from a volatile brother that's been going on for years. Last night was the tipping point as he repeatedly threatened to 'do me in'. He bragged about carrying a knife and threatened to stab his ex and burn her house. I have no interaction with him yet I'm still threatened.

So now I have a provisional appointment at the police station. I only have notes as supporting evidence and a few poor recordings. I'm really scared as this could now put my life in danger as he he's a very threatening individual and associates with people who have been in prison.


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MatzoTov
11/06/23 3:14:18 PM
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Stay safe.

Can you call the cops for a wellness check on him?

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MrResetti
11/06/23 3:18:48 PM
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So you quit your team?
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TeamSilent4Life
11/06/23 3:30:25 PM
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MatzoTov posted...
Stay safe.

Can you call the cops for a wellness check on him?

I initially requested to speak to a community safety officer but they put me straight through to the police directly, then there was no backing out basically. I told them that I was threatened last night and he also bragged about his knife in his pocket. I told them I've been fearful for years. He's here right now, he still visits.

This could have devastating consequences and I doubt my mother will ever speak to me after thursday. I have to be at the police station in person with any notes or recordings I have as supporting evidence.

I'm also worried that he could twist it as he's a very malicious person. He lies a lot to slander to cover his highly intimidating behaviour.

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Tyranthraxus
11/06/23 3:32:57 PM
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My advice: stay with a friend or at an Airbnb for a while. Don't tell anyone.

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TeamSilent4Life
11/06/23 3:38:27 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
My advice: stay with a friend or at an Airbnb for a while. Don't tell anyone.

He'll probably find out after thursday when they come knockin on his door to arrest him. He'll know its me as there's no one else who would report his behaviour. Then he'll probably threaten to kill me or somethin as he's that type of person and he knows ex convicts. He could also twist the version of events, he's the type to blame shift and make up malicious lies. He's downstairs as I type this with my mum and they don't have a clue what's about to transpire. I feel sick to my stomach..

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Tyranthraxus
11/06/23 3:40:35 PM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
He'll probably find out after thursday when they come knockin on his door to arrest him. He'll know its me as there's no one else who would report his behaviour. Then he'll probably threaten to kill me or somethin as he's that type of person and he knows ex convicts. He could also twist the version of events, he's the type to blame shift and make up malicious lies. He's downstairs as I type this with my mum and they don't have a clue what's about to transpire. I feel sick to my stomach..

Well then you've got some time to get out. Seriously. He can't hurt you if he can't find you.

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MatzoTov
11/07/23 11:03:22 AM
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Update TC?

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Block_that_Kick
11/07/23 11:08:41 AM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
He'll probably find out after thursday when they come knockin on his door to arrest him. He'll know its me as there's no one else who would report his behaviour. Then he'll probably threaten to kill me or somethin as he's that type of person and he knows ex convicts. He could also twist the version of events, he's the type to blame shift and make up malicious lies. He's downstairs as I type this with my mum and they don't have a clue what's about to transpire. I feel sick to my stomach..

If your state doesnt require two way consent, record the call and when he inevitably threatens your life, take that to the police and have him arrested again.

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CommonStar
11/07/23 11:29:03 AM
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Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline for help 1-800-799-SAFE.

Document as much as you can. Have an emergency bag and a safe place to go to ready that no one else knows about. Warn the ex.
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Zelduh
11/07/23 11:35:20 AM
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Never call police on family unless you want them shot or worse
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Guide
11/07/23 11:50:53 AM
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Zelduh posted...
Never call police on family unless you want them shot or worse

When your options are "risk being stabbed by a nutjob" and "not calling the police", you call the fucking police.

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MatzoTov
11/08/23 10:24:45 AM
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MatzoTov posted...
Update TC?


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TeamSilent4Life
11/08/23 2:16:31 PM
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@MatzoTov tomorrow is D-Day, I'm scheduled to be at the police station to give a full statement, apparently this session will last 2 hours. Then I have to somehow put on a brave face at work immediately after. I've been sick with worry all week, I even contacted them to request a cancellation, they said it will remain on file but nothin will get done. Then I came home from work and told my mum about his threatening behaviour, how he threatened me and threatened to stab his ex and burn her stuff.

She defended him as usual, basically sayin he was pissed, I said that doesn't justify threatening behaviour. She keeps tellin me 'You can't forget about the past' which is gaslighting. This is how narrow minded my own mother is. She basically told me to 'do what I have to do' so now I'm adamant now in my mind to proceed further and give a full statement on this bastard. Years and years of fear and intimidation. It's time to end this once and for all. My mum will probably disown me after tomorrow, I'll be a target, 'snitches get stitches' after all. They'll know it's me as everyone else enables him. I'll update how it goes tomorrow, my next post will be interesting to say the least.

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MatzoTov
11/08/23 2:19:19 PM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
@MatzoTov tomorrow is D-Day, I'm scheduled to be at the police station to give a full statement, apparently this session will last 2 hours. Then I have to somehow put on a brave face at work immediately after. I've been sick with worry all week, I even contacted them to request a cancellation, they said it will remain on file but nothin will get done. Then I came home from work and told my mum about his threatening behaviour, how he threatened me and threatened to stab his ex and burn her stuff.

She defended him as usual, basically sayin he was pissed, I said that doesn't justify threatening behaviour. She keeps tellin me 'You can't forget about the past' which is gaslighting. This is how narrow minded my own mother is. She basically told me to 'do what I have to do' so now I'm adamant now in my mind to proceed further and give a full statement on this bastard. Years and years of fear and intimidation. It's time to end this once and for all. My mum will probably disown me after tomorrow, I'll be a target, 'snitches get stitches' after all. They'll know it's me as everyone else enables him. I'll update how it goes tomorrow, my next post will be interesting to say the least.
Keep us posted.

Consider getting a gun if you can.

Check yourself into a hotel or other safe space like that and don't tell anyone for the next few days.

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JuanCarlos1
11/08/23 2:20:10 PM
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Sounds like you come from a very troubled and toxic household. I think its time to whats right for you and your piece of mind. Even potentially saving other people.

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TeamSilent4Life
11/08/23 4:55:12 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Sounds like you come from a very troubled and toxic household. I think its time to whats right for you and your piece of mind. Even potentially saving other people.

ye well tomorrow is the day of reckoning, I'll finally speak my truth to the authorities. I refuse to live in fear no more. I'll now be a target which is concerning as he knows a lot of ex convicts. I just need to free from this individual, he's here as we speak, he doesn't give a single fuck despite the serious nature of his threats. He even admitted that he's evil, he's a fuckin monster.

MatzoTov posted...
Keep us posted.

Consider getting a gun if you can.

Check yourself into a hotel or other safe space like that and don't tell anyone for the next few days.

Guns are illegal here in the UK even for self defence. I know there's been a few cases were some guy have done a massacre, most recently was Jake Davison who was a self proclaimed Incel and proceeded to shoot 5 people including a child. He somehow found a loophole to grant access to a firearm despite his unstable mental health.

A hotel is an option, although I would still have to return to this house at some point. I don't I'll be able to sleep tonight, I already suffer with anxiety, tomorrow will be stressful to say the least. The repercussions are gonna be significant. There's also the risk of him twisting the version of events as that's what sociopaths do. He's definitely sociopathic, yet he justifies it as behaviour behind the drink. He also uses his ADHD as an excuse for his aggressive behaviour.

He hasn't once harmed me physically but as we all know, abuse doesn't have to physical to be considered abuse. I'd say it's definitely emotional abuse as I've always lived in fear with him. I have it all documented on my phone from various dates. I only have 5 voice recordings which are unclear tbh but that's the only concrete evidence I have.

I regret not recording much sooner, I only recorded some of sunday's. I'm worried what this will do to my mum, as she suffers with Lupus which is an auto immune condition and can be triggered by stress. He's basically used her as a shield to deflect his abusive behaviour, I remember 1 time he gaslighted by saying 'It'll upset mum if you ring the police'. There's no room for sentiment tomorrow, enough is enough.

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TeamSilent4Life
11/09/23 3:37:10 PM
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Today I gave a full statement to the police regarding the threats and intimidation over the years. I attended the police station and the session lasted a couple hours. This was received by an officer and 2 support workers of domestic abuse. This was triggered on Sunday when he came to the house after a drink and made serious repeated threats to 'do me in' and bragged about the 'blade' in his pocket. He threatened to burn his ex girlfriends house.

After I came home, I was gaslighted again by own mum and her friends who shouted at me and continue to invalidate the emotional abuse and fear that I've been living with for years. I informed my workplace who were very supportive. My mum told me she'll still allow him to come round, she told me to 'GROW UP' and that I can't forget about the past which she repeats to me every time an incident occurs.

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bsp77
11/09/23 3:45:19 PM
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Is moving out an option? You likely shouldn't even be around your mom

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TeamSilent4Life
11/09/23 4:17:40 PM
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Thanks, it was the bravest thing I've ever done in my life. The police station, giving a full statement then opening up about it to the school I work. I approached the headmistress head on and other staff. I was in her office and I also walked straight into the staff room and immediately expressed that I've just come from a police station. Some of them gave me hugs which speaks volumes tbh. Some of them ignorant as usual, that'll never change as I've been treated like an alien by most of them.

bsp77 posted...
Is moving out an option? You likely shouldn't even be around your mom

I just disclosed it to the housing officer, quoting the officer's contact for reference. I need to GTFO out of this place. I've known for a while that there's something not right about my mum, how she enables and gaslights to defend his abusive behaviour. This has confirmed it, she is part of his abuse and those around her have agreed with her. My own fuckin mother who I love regardless but I'm beginning to question if she is my mother to begin with because what mother would do that.

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GeraldDarko
11/09/23 4:19:45 PM
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Have they told you what sort of action they're likely to take?

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Umbreon
11/09/23 4:25:44 PM
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This couldn't have been easy, but it was the right thing to do. Nothing justifies threatening your life, no matter what blood ties or past connections.

Stay safe.

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MotaroRIP619
11/09/23 4:32:51 PM
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Sorry you went through that, your best bet is to leave your current situation. Wash your hands of that awful and toxic family. Sounds like your mom is part of the problem. You need support right now, and honestly so does your brother and she isnt giving either of you the appropriate parental guidance.

Do you have anywhere else you can stay at all? Your brother sounds like a blowhard but he also sounds like he is escalating. Id leave so fucking fast and let them miss me.

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TeamSilent4Life
11/09/23 5:00:13 PM
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GeraldDarko posted...
Have they told you what sort of action they're likely to take?

They basically told me no further action, my mum lied to the officer sayin it was a 'one off' kinda thing. My recorded notes over the years suggest otherwise but unfortunately that doesn't account for sufficient evidence. My word is only my word and abusers will twist that to their desired effect.

They told me to email my full recorded notes to them, they didn't even properly look at them, the officer literally just skimmed through it. I was sat in that station for 2 hours testifying against an abuser yet nothing has been done. I wasn't convinced by the police response at all, a slap on the wrist is a fuckin disgrace after years of serious threats to hurt me, some to even kill me. After all that, this monster will still be around the house when he visits.

After today this isn't my mum, I was very upset all day in regards to her welfare then I came home and she was fuckin horrible to me, complete gaslighting behaviour, literally shutting me down as she's always done with people around to support her to make me appear crazy. I work in a school, I'm more switched on and open minded than these people will ever be, just complete low lives from a shithole council estate, a product of the environment.

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MotaroRIP619
11/09/23 5:08:11 PM
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^ As unfair as your situation is, they are probably right. If its all hearsay testimony it wouldnt necessarily be fair to do anything to punish your brother at this point from their perspective. They probably deal with people making up stuff quite often, although you know youre telling the truth and have suffered his verbal and emotional abuse for years. That is why you might need to just remove yourself from these people and keep some permadistance away from them. Especially if you think he might make good on any of those threats.

Is it easy or possible for you to file a restraining order at least? For some peace of mind?
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GeraldDarko
11/09/23 5:11:27 PM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
They basically told me no further action as there was no evidence of direct threats, since when was indirect not a threat, an empty threat is still a threat. It was a half arsed investigation just to tick boxes of their compliance with the case. My mum lied to the officer sayin it was a 'one off' kinda thing. My recorded notes over the years suggest otherwise but unfortunately that doesn't account for sufficient evidence. My word is only my word and abusers will twist that to their desired effect.

They told me to email my full recorded notes to them, they didn't even properly look at them, the officer literally just skimmed through it. I was sat in that station for 2 hours testifying against an abuser yet nothing has been done. I wasn't convinced by the police response at all, a slap on the wrist is a fuckin disgrace after years of serious threats to hurt me, some to even kill me. After all that, this monster will still be around the house when he visits.

After today this isn't my mum, I was very upset all day in regards to her welfare then I came home and she was fuckin horrible to me, complete gaslighting behaviour, literally shutting me down as she's always done with people around to support her to make me appear crazy. I work in a school, I'm more switched on and open minded than these people will ever be, just complete low lives from a shithole council estate, a product of the environment.
That's unfortunate, but I can understand not prosecuting people without evidence. Really sucks about your mom. Some people would just prefer to ignore the real issues, but treat the person that reminds them of the issues as the problem.

You got the means to support yourself?

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TeamSilent4Life
11/09/23 7:17:12 PM
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Just been threatened again, he came round at 11pm warning me "DON'T YOU EVER RING THE POLICE AGAIN YOU FUCKIN WORM". He called me a PRICK and told mum he wants to 'FUCKIN LEATHER ME". The police told me to ring them immediately if he starts again but I'm too scared, he sounds like he wants to kill me.

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MotaroRIP619
11/09/23 7:27:42 PM
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GeraldDarko posted...


You got the means to support yourself?

I should have asked this somewhere in my advice. Thats important
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TeamSilent4Life
11/09/23 7:33:12 PM
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MotaroRIP619 posted...
I should have asked this somewhere in my advice. Thats important

you mean financially?. I've got some savings. He threatened me again tonight, came round after a drink and warned me never to ring the police again. If I ring them again he would kill me for sure.

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Mr_Karate_II
11/09/23 7:36:08 PM
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Leave then call the cops, period.

Get a motel room for the night or for awhile if you can or see if you can stay with some friends for awhile.


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MotaroRIP619
11/09/23 7:50:33 PM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
you mean financially?. I've got some savings. He threatened me again tonight, came round after a drink and warned me never to ring the police again. If I ring them again he would kill me for sure.

You should definitely get out of there then, is there any other reason you cant leave your moms?

and if you think the police will help you then tell them after you leave. Tell your mom whats happening as well. But you need to go if you can.
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TeamSilent4Life
11/09/23 7:52:15 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
Leave then call the cops, period.

Get a motel room for the night or for awhile if you can or see if you can stay with some friends for awhile.

He would kill me if I called the cops again. He warned me never to ring them again. He said if my mum dies from stress he would leather me, my mum's illness (Lupus) is essentially his smokescreen to threaten me. He's evil, he would probably try and stab me or somethin. I don't have any friends tbh

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cjsdowg
11/09/23 7:52:29 PM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
Just been threatened again, he came round at 11pm warning me "DON'T YOU EVER RING THE POLICE AGAIN YOU FUCKIN WORM". He called me a PRICK and told mum he wants to 'FUCKIN LEATHER ME". The police told me to ring them immediately if he starts again but I'm too scared, he sounds like he wants to kill me.

Please get some place safe. Call a Shelter if you have to just please get out.

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cjsdowg
11/09/23 7:53:54 PM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
He would kill me if I called the cops again. He warned me never to ring them again. He said if my mum dies from stress he would leather me, my mum's illness (Lupus) is essentially his smokescreen to threaten me. He's evil, he would probably try and stab me or somethin. I don't have any friends tbh

I know it is hard, but you have to leave for your own well being. Abusers use family members and the pets and anything else you love to keep you trapped. Get to safety then think about what to do next.

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Rotterdammerung
11/09/23 7:55:20 PM
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Please get the hell out of there ASAP and find somewhere safe

Just because someones family doesnt mean you have to take abuse from them, either in the form of belittlement and gaslighting or threats of physical harm.

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TeamSilent4Life
11/09/23 8:01:10 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I know it is hard, but you have to leave for your own well being. Abusers use family members and the pets and anything else you love to keep you trapped. Get to safety then think about what to do next.

I appreciate your concern and other posters here. He's just gone home so there's temporary relief before he returns again. I contacted the local council, giving them the contacts of the police officer who I gave the statement. If I moved he would worm his way back in and seize control of my room.

My mum's part in his behaviour is concerning, how she repeatedly gaslights and invalidates me. She told him that she doesn't like it when he drinks as she likes it calm. It's interesting you mention using pets as leverage, he did exactly that the other day, taking my mum's dog back to his flat and she couldn't argue against it.

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Mr_Karate_II
11/09/23 8:08:09 PM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
He would kill me if I called the cops again. He warned me never to ring them again. He said if my mum dies from stress he would leather me, my mum's illness (Lupus) is essentially his smokescreen to threaten me. He's evil, he would probably try and stab me or somethin. I don't have any friends tbh
There has to be a shelter you can go to.

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MotaroRIP619
11/09/23 8:26:08 PM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
I appreciate your concern and other posters here. He's just gone home so there's temporary relief before he returns again. I contacted the local council, giving them the contacts of the police officer who I gave the statement. If I moved he would worm his way back in and seize control of my room.

My mum's part in his behaviour is concerning, how she repeatedly gaslights and invalidates me. She told him that she doesn't like it when he drinks as she likes it calm. It's interesting you mention using pets as leverage, he did exactly that the other day, taking my mum's dog back to his flat and she couldn't argue against it.

is there any reason you cant live on your own permanently? If it were me I dont think Id want my room back.
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DrizztLink
11/09/23 8:26:51 PM
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You almost definitely qualify for a restraining order if you think it would help.

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TeamSilent4Life
11/09/23 9:10:35 PM
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MotaroRIP619 posted...
is there any reason you cant live on your own permanently? If it were me I dont think Id want my room back.

I've been on a waiting list for years for a council house which is more secure housing. If I moved to private renting it would cost a lot more and would jeopardise my place on the council list for secure housing. If the council refuse to support me as a matter or priority I'll have to look elsewhere, I should hear their response soon but time can be a death sentence.

DrizztLink posted...
You almost definitely qualify for a restraining order if you think it would help.

Is that similar to an injunction?. The officer suggested that, but I'd have to go through court proceedings, so much bullshit. I'm also guilt tripped by the stress its causing to my mum's illness, he blames me for her stress for bringing the police to her door yet its him who's causing it with his abuse, this is classic coercive control from a sociopath

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DrizztLink
11/09/23 9:12:25 PM
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TeamSilent4Life posted...
Is that similar to an injunction?. The officer suggested that, but I'd have to go through court proceedings, so much bullshit.
This source will probably explain it better than I can.

https://www.optionhouseinc.com/programs/restraining-orders?https://www.optionhouseinc.com/

utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=NAV+-+Services&utm_term=how%20do%20restraining%20orders%20work

https://tinyurl.com/ytuwnbkb

The tinyurl goes to the same place, alternative to that monstrosity of a hyperlink attempt.

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cjsdowg
11/09/23 9:19:48 PM
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TC if you are in England.

I found this help number you can call. Maybe they can help get you safe.

If you want to access support over the phone, you can call: National Domestic Abuse Helpline 0808 2000 247

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TeamSilent4Life
11/09/23 9:25:45 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
TC if you are in England.

I found this help number you can call. Maybe they can help get you safe.

If you want to access support over the phone, you can call: National Domestic Abuse Helpline 0808 2000 247

That was for women that 1, there's a stigma against male victims of domestic abuse for some reason, even the deputy headteacher of the school I work told me. ManKind Charity reports that in 2021, out of 238 refuge spaces for victims of domestic abuse, only 58 were committed to supporting male survivors. It's blatant discrimination.

I've just been on a live chat to Victim Support, they referred me for further support and told me to call the police each incident. I should have called again to follow up on the initial statement after further threats but I chickened out for the sake of my mum and the serious nature of his threats.

@DrizztLink sounds similar to an injunction, I just wish the process didn't involve court proceedings. it would be useful but I don't know if I could face this monster in court

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cjsdowg
11/09/23 9:53:12 PM
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I have found this one for men.

0808 801 0327

You are right about the BS that male victims have to deal with.

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TeamSilent4Life
11/10/23 7:52:13 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I have found this one for men.

0808 801 0327

You are right about the BS that male victims have to deal with.

That's the 1 I've been using the most, I've been emailing them extensively but I think they startin to get sick of me as they were repeating themself. They kept tellin me to inform the police and now I have.

Today was the 1st day that my abuse was validated by someone other than a professional. My mum's muslim friend acknowledged my abuse and clearly spelt it out to my mum. Usually my mum gaslights and invalidates me as she enables that bastard of a son. She was very upset and broke down crying as she suffers herself with her own depression.

I'll admit I'm not the greatest son by any means but I'm not an abuser like him. My issue has been not helping her out more which is trivial by contrast. I've always been respectful, yet I get abused as thanks. The headmistress was supportive at the school I work, I spoke to her again today and she acknowledged my situation which was nice. A school can actually be a very supportive environment in times of distress, although you still get the ignorant fucks who barely acknowledge your existence.

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cjsdowg
11/10/23 8:28:58 PM
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I am happy that some things seem to be going better for you.

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TeamSilent4Life
11/10/23 8:53:20 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I am happy that some things seem to be going better for you.

Today was calmer but I feel like its the calm before the storm, as soon as he drinks it's abuse all over again. It's terrifying when he drinks, very intimidating and threatening. Yet he justifies it by his calmer state when he's sober, it's classic coercive control. Someone told me today that emotional abuse is actually worse than physical. You wouldn't think that but it probably is as the signs are less obvious and just as damaging. Mental abuse is pathological over a sustained period of time and it's so difficult to break free from. There's gaslighting involved, all sorts of mental manipulation. Then when you do reach out your taken less seriously and there's no physical evidence to apprehend the abuser. There's less justice in emotional abuse that's for sure yet it destroys so many lives. My mum literally said "It's not abuse because he's never laid a finger on us". That tells you everything how manipulative emotional abuse is. This is exactly why the abuse persists.

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CrustForRevenge
11/11/23 4:59:52 AM
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You could speak to the police about getting a non-molestation order against him.

Speak to the housing department about emergency housing. Explain the situation and that it's being investigated by the police.

Hope you stay safe.

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