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aquablack 11/07/23 8:39:46 PM #51: |
It gets a pass for having similarities to Evangelion which too many people hold regard in such a high pedestal. The writers deny this but we know it's all bs. Kind of like how Hunger Games obviously ripped off Battle Royale. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trivialbeing 11/07/23 8:52:40 PM #52: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] what's so great about the story honest question. I never played it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 11/07/23 8:53:48 PM #53: |
trivialbeing posted...
honest question. I never played itEveryone already got that about you. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trivialbeing 11/07/23 8:54:23 PM #54: |
ellis123 posted... Everyone already got that about you.that I never played Xenogears? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trivialbeing 11/07/23 8:55:04 PM #55: |
I did play Xenosaga for what it's worth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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furb 11/07/23 8:55:15 PM #56: |
Game is awesome and avant garde.
I love it and the art house second disc. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/07/23 8:56:18 PM #57: |
PowerOats posted...
Does XenoGears even have good or great gameplay? Or is it the Music/lore/characters/something else?Gameplay is trash and is insanely easy to abuse. Citen is a broken PoS human character and Elly's gear solos everything. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shishiwakamaru 11/07/23 8:56:51 PM #58: |
VeggetaX posted...
I didn't know so many people loved graphic novel video games. Did you? Yes Thanks for giving me a reason to play Xenogears --- Accroches-toi a ton reve ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/07/23 8:57:26 PM #59: |
furb posted...
Game is awesome and avant garde.@loafy013 you seeing this shit, man? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 9:42:38 AM #60: |
Realize that this game was way too ambitious for its own good. The game used a shit ton of religious references for it's own creation and you'd have to be a bit of a scholar of things like Cain and Abel to get what their initial objectives are.
This game is a bait and switch. All the initial incidents and shit happening are made to be trivial in the grand scheme of things. It's one of those games where you fight God at the end, or an imitation of it. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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loafy013 11/08/23 9:43:22 AM #61: |
VeggetaX posted...
Citen is a ... PoS human characterI will never fail to link to this when talking about Citan. (spoiler warning for old game) https://lparchive.org/Xenogears-(by-The-Dark-Id)/Citan/ --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Plumeofdusk 11/08/23 10:04:30 AM #62: |
Keep Xenogears name out of your filthy mouth OP. If you don't get it then it clearly wasn't meant for a surface dweller -lamb- of your sort. :v Your favorite game *wishes* it had the -depth- and -nuance- of storytelling that Xenogears has. Your favorite game will never -stand tall and shake the heavens- like Xenogears did. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 11/08/23 10:19:07 AM #63: |
VeggetaX posted...
Elly's gear solos everything. not the final boss for sure :v Anyway, the change from Shitan to Citan for English audience is pretty funny to me. Too bad the didn't change Shion to Cion too. But the other changes are annoying to me, changing the family name to fit western convention (Wong Fei Fong to Fei Fong Wong, where it's a reference to real life martial artist Wong Fei Hung), or changing Myyah to Miang making her connection to Elhayym more obscure. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunWithAFryPan 11/08/23 10:34:36 AM #64: |
Its a JRPG with mechs and king fu, and it has one of the best stories of any video game ever. Of course its going to be well loved. And I think youre overstating how bad the gameplay is. Its not perfect, and it could be rebalanced a little, but its fine. And it was different than what people were used to at the time.
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 10:39:21 AM #65: |
FunWithAFryPan posted...
Its a JRPG with mechs and king fu, and it has one of the best stories of any video game ever.Is that all what it takes to give a game a free pass for being rushed and incomplete? No Man Sky should have did this then. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunWithAFryPan 11/08/23 10:49:21 AM #66: |
VeggetaX posted...
Is that all what it takes to give a game a free pass for being rushed and incomplete? No Man Sky should have did this then.Is that all? Thats a lot. The moment to moment gameplay is still extremely fun. Its unfortunate that disc 2 was rushed, but the game is remembered as one of the best PS1 rpgs for a reason. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 11/08/23 10:51:04 AM #67: |
Xenosaga games are way better than gears and deserve a remastering. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Plumeofdusk 11/08/23 10:53:30 AM #68: |
FunWithAFryPan posted... Is that all? Thats a lot. The moment to moment gameplay is still extremely fun. Its unfortunate that disc 2 was rushed, but the game is remembered as one of the best PS1 rpgs for a reason. And it isn't like they rushed the game out because they wanted to, Square was literally pulling resources from Xenogears to develop FFVIII. It's a miracle they managed to actually finish the story, even if had to be delivered like a visual novel. :v ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 11/08/23 10:53:32 AM #69: |
VeggetaX posted... Is that all what it takes to give a game a free pass for being rushed and incomplete? No Man Sky should have did this then. No Mans Sky is a wholly different situation fwiw. They literally lost basically the entirety of their office due to a flood. No one ever acknowledges the actual reasons why NMS launched unfinished. The game is absolutely amazing now though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 11/08/23 10:54:05 AM #70: |
A fully developed modern remake would be so good. But I have never been sure if Square Enix still owns the rights to Xenogears. I once I think was told the people who made it left the company and took the rights with them. Then went on to make those Xeno something games on ps2. I forget the name. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 11/08/23 10:54:41 AM #71: |
aquablack posted... It gets a pass for having similarities to Evangelion which too many people hold regard in such a high pedestal. The writers deny this but we know it's all bs. Kind of like how Hunger Games obviously ripped off Battle Royale.And Battle Royale ripped off a short story by Stephen King called The Long Walk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 10:57:14 AM #72: |
FunWithAFryPan posted...
Is that all? Thats a lot. The moment to moment gameplay is still extremely fun. Its unfortunate that disc 2 was rushed, but the game is remembered as one of the best PS1 rpgs for a reason.So you like a lot of graphic novels in your JRPGs huh? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 11/08/23 10:57:27 AM #73: |
Zikten posted...
A fully developed modern remake would be so good. But I have never been sure if Square Enix still owns the rights to Xenogears. I once I think was told the people who made it left the company and took the rights with them. Then went on to make those Xeno something games on ps2. I forget the name. They still own the rights. Monolith Soft didn't, so Xenosaga actually didn't have a direct connection to Xenogears, only likenesses and references. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 11/08/23 10:58:35 AM #74: |
Oh OK. So Gears could potentially be remade someday. I hope it happens in my lifetime ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 10:59:25 AM #75: |
Plumeofdusk posted...
And it isn't like they rushed the game out because they wanted toThis is assuming you believe they were going to nearly establish a very well polished game even with time and resource. The game was way too ambitious and that was part of its failing. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 11/08/23 11:00:37 AM #76: |
The TC thinks that his opinion is fact and everyone agrees with him
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 11:01:27 AM #77: |
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 11:01:46 AM #78: |
creativerealms posted...
The TC thinks that his opinion is fact and everyone agrees with himMore like the other way around. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 11/08/23 11:02:05 AM #79: |
If it was created nowadays, they would have simply wrap disc 1 as Xenogears: Part 1 and release the Disc 2 contents way later.
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FunWithAFryPan 11/08/23 11:18:23 AM #80: |
VeggetaX posted...
So you like a lot of graphic novels in your JRPGs huh?Not particularly, but by the time I got to disc 2, I was invested. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/08/23 11:22:19 AM #81: |
Ricemills posted...
not the final boss for sure :v --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 11:25:54 AM #82: |
FunWithAFryPan posted...
Not particularly, but by the time I got to disc 2, I was invested.Right, so you give this game a pass. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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crayola555 11/08/23 11:28:58 AM #83: |
Looks like TC reached far and wide to the stars to find a reason to hate xenogears
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AnsestralRecall 11/08/23 11:32:41 AM #84: |
crayola555 posted... Looks like TC reached far and wide to the stars to find a reason to hate xenogears His ass isn't in the cosmos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 11/08/23 11:34:04 AM #85: |
VeggetaX posted...
No it wasn't. It was in Xenoblade 3. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 11/08/23 11:36:41 AM #86: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 11:48:24 AM #87: |
crayola555 posted...
Looks like TC reached far and wide to the stars to find a reason to hate xenogearsOh please it takes no effort to see how bad this game is. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunWithAFryPan 11/08/23 12:01:45 PM #88: |
VeggetaX posted...
Right, so you give this game a pass.No, because that implies its a bad game. Its not. Its a fantastic game. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 12:13:54 PM #89: |
Semantics.
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AnsestralRecall 11/08/23 12:29:52 PM #90: |
VeggetaX posted... Semantics. Is all you ever have. Just admit you don't value anyone else's opinions and move past this fucking pageantry ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 12:31:38 PM #91: |
AnsestralRecall posted...
Is all you ever have. Just admit you don't value anyone else's opinions and move past this fucking pageantryI'll admit that soon as you guys admit you give this game a huge fucking pass you wouldn't give the same to other rushed unfinished games --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 11/08/23 12:36:03 PM #92: |
Golden Sun beats it on all fronts in my opinion. Hell at least xeno had an interesting story on paper. Golden sun didnt have that or anything going for it.
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Prestoff 11/08/23 12:36:44 PM #93: |
Nostalgia, that's the answer. Same for Dragonball Z
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 12:39:44 PM #94: |
Prismsblade posted...
Golden Sun beats it on all fronts in my opinion. Hell at least xeno had an interesting story on paper. Golden sun didnt have that or anything going for it.Golden Sun didn't try to be a wannabe epic super ambitious game. Golden Sun was bland and plain as fuck and no one should have expected anything more from the game. You want a classic style JRPG? That's what Golden Sun was trying to be, IMO. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 12:41:08 PM #95: |
Prestoff posted...
Nostalgia, that's the answer.Oh I know. I was just hoping someone would admit this about themselves. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 11/08/23 12:43:00 PM #96: |
VeggetaX posted...
I'll admit that soon as you guys admit you give this game a huge fucking pass you wouldn't give the same to other rushed unfinished gamesMake a topic about KotoR 2 then. It was famously horribly unfinished and rushed. See if it gets any defense as well. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeggetaX 11/08/23 12:46:49 PM #97: |
ellis123 posted...
Make a topic about KotoR 2 then. It was famously horribly unfinished and rushed. See if it gets any defense as well.You make it. Another game that gets super shit on for being rushed and unfinished is FF15. Well, since the game gave me a fantastic experience then that excuses all of its flaws right? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 11/08/23 12:48:47 PM #98: |
This is why the Xenoblade games are better. Sure the stories are toned down on the amount of lore-building and existential elements, but they're designed as games first and foremost.
...That said I only played Xenogears up until the desert town, which wasn't very far at all. I plan on getting back to it eventually. Xenosaga's a different story since I don't have a PS2 and copies are very expensive. I guess I could do it via other means, but... --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin2Krelian 11/08/23 12:51:35 PM #99: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]
This. Its weird how vehemently some people hate this game. There was a guy on another board who was even more hardcore than TC. The chair thing was annoying, but the story was so good by the second half of disc 2 it barely mattered to me, plus you start to get used to it. Theres areas where its flawed, but its still the GOAT in core story (arguable surpassed by Xenosaga III), ensemble cast of villains, character depth, and especially soundtrack. --- -J2K Currently Streaming: One Piece, Loki, Fall of the House of Usher, The Punisher, Umbrella Academy, ST: Lower Decks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/08/23 12:58:10 PM #100: |
Justin2Krelian posted...
This. Its weird how vehemently some people hate this game. There was a guy on another board who was even more hardcore than TC.The story of disc 2 was good from a story perspective it just sucked from a video game perspective since it glossed over many major events in just text. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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