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A_Good_Boy 11/09/23 5:12:20 PM #151: |
TMOG posted...
So what you're saying is that you're fine with all the white guys who are openly and aggressively racist/bigoted against non-white guys, but not with the woman who said "maybe white guys aren't the target audience for this movie"Enlightened Centrists always place the opinions of racists and bigots as an apriori against everyone else. Brie Larson is apparently a self hating white woman because she said that racist white dude's opinions weren't the ones she was interested in lol. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:12:23 PM #152: |
TMOG posted...
So what you're saying is that you're fine with all the white guys who are openly and aggressively racist/bigoted against non-white guys, but not with the woman who said "maybe white guys aren't the target audience for this movie"I can seperate an artist from their work. I'm saying I totally get it if other people can't. JK Rowling being a transphobe won't stop me from watching a Harry Potter movie but I wouldn't call someone 'a woman hating incel piece of shit who is lying' because they say that's what stopped them. And I wouldn't ask "Why does JK Rowling Trigger people?" and then pretend not to understand. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 11/09/23 5:13:27 PM #153: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Nothing she said was racist though. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inohira 11/09/23 5:13:29 PM #154: |
TMOG posted...
Opposing both is possible. TMOG posted...
Nobody buys low karma accounts. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 11/09/23 5:14:16 PM #155: |
UnfairRepresent posted... It's a dangerous attitude to repeatedly decide what other people 'actually' think, refuse to talk to them and then hate them for being 'wrong.' Aren't you deciding what they think by insisting that people only have a problem with her because she's supposedly racist? Or does that not count when you do it? She wasn't racist, end of. Incels hate her cause they're sexist dirtbags and she struck a nerve, end of. Stay wrong, UF, you know it's your normal state of being. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:15:18 PM #156: |
Heineken14 posted...
That's your opinion. As I said earlier, I imagine a lot of the people in this topic would think differently if you replaced white with black. Either way, that's the thing that bothers a lot of people. They think she's racist (and not a good actress) --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 11/09/23 5:15:51 PM #157: |
Inohira posted... Stuff similar to your posts. LMAO you can't even back up your claims, stay wrong! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:15:52 PM #158: |
UnfairRepresent posted... I can seperate an artist from their work. jus not when it comes to Brie Larson cuz of the poor poor white ppl lmaoo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:17:21 PM #159: |
UnfairRepresent posted... That's your opinion. no lets use your example correctly if a black WOMAN said she didnt want the opinion of BLACK MEN is an accurate example . not the strawman arguments you keep using ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inohira 11/09/23 5:17:47 PM #160: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Exactly. Me simply saying certain games are targeted at hardcore gamers, not casuals, has gotten me attacked. Me saying, "don't like it, don't buy it" has gotten me attacked. People have said all sorts of vile things about me for defending games and mods targeted towards specific audiences. And that isn't even about race or gender. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 11/09/23 5:17:58 PM #161: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Either way, that's the thing that bothers a lot of people. They think she's racist (and not a good actress) UnfairRepresent posted... It's a dangerous attitude to repeatedly decide what other people 'actually' think The sheer hypocrisy is delicious. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:19:27 PM #162: |
Murphiroth posted...
Aren't you deciding what they think by insisting that people only have a problem with her because she's supposedly racist? nope. Or does that not count when you do it? I haven't done it. I haven't decided that everyone thinks a certain thing and then insulted them and hated them for being wrong.
Oh well if that's the end of, I guess it's settled then. Thanks for sorting that out. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inohira 11/09/23 5:20:23 PM #163: |
Calamity316 posted...
So can a white guy say he doesn't care about the opinions of white women? Will the same people defend him? Call anyone who disagrees an incel? Or are they brazen hypocrites? --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:20:23 PM #164: |
Calamity316 posted...
no lets use your example correctlyI would consider that to be racist and sexist yes. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Carljank 11/09/23 5:20:55 PM #165: |
I fucking love her for it.
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:21:30 PM #166: |
UnfairRepresent posted... I would consider that to be racist and sexist yes. well youve already proven youre not very bright so go figure lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:22:55 PM #167: |
Calamity316 posted...
jus not when it comes to Brie Larson cuz of the poor poor white ppl lmaoo Again with you just deiciding things. I have no issues watching Avengers: Endgame. I can seperate the artist from the art. I just also wouldn't make up weird things and scream at someone for being an incel if they didn't want to. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 11/09/23 5:22:55 PM #168: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Oh well if that's the end of, I guess it's settled then. Thanks for sorting that out. Glad you agree, hopefully you'll be less wrong in the future but I doubt it. Maybe work on the hypocrisy a bit too, but that'd require self awareness and intellectual honesty you simply do not have. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 11/09/23 5:23:51 PM #169: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
That's your opinion. Nah, it isn't. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:24:23 PM #170: |
Calamity316 posted...
well youve already proven youre not very bright so go figure lmaoSo to be clear, you don't think a white guy can be racist against white people? Or a black guy can be racist against black people? Or a black woman can be sexist/racist against black men? Because yeah, not only do I disagree I think that stance is utterly absurd by the very basic definitions of the word O_o --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 11/09/23 5:25:42 PM #171: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
How come other famous women don't get the hate? They have. Larson is the often the focus, but let's not pretend she's the only one. Margot Robbie is viewed as the only good thing about Suicide Squad. I suggest you think about the differences between the characters portrayed by Robbie and Larson, the films they appeared in, how females are depicted in those films, and why those things might be a factor. Where was the sexist dirtbags there?If you think it's the first one, you are saying that it's her fault she receives sexist criticism from misogynist shitbags. She brought it on herself. Which is certainly an opinion, I guess. Though not one that would be a credit to you. --- Nothing works/Everything's expensive/And opaque/And privatised/My shoe organising thing arrived/Thank God ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:26:06 PM #172: |
UnfairRepresent posted... So to be clear, you don't think a white guy can be racist against white people? Or a black guy can be racist against black people? sure they can I guess . But how do you know they are racist from one quote ? Arent you preaching about not assuming shit ? I guess its ok when you do it lmaoo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 11/09/23 5:28:06 PM #173: |
UnfairRepresent posted... I have no issues watching Avengers: Endgame. I can seperate the artist from the art.What about a movie that she's in for longer than five minutes Say... Captain Marvel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:28:35 PM #174: |
Dude might as well be a flat earthier or any other type of cultist lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:32:52 PM #175: |
TMOG posted...
What about a movie that she's in for longer than five minutesI found that movie to be utterly boring from start to finish. One of the weakest MCU movies by far. But I'd have no moral problems with watching it again if I was with someone who wanted too. Calamity316 posted... Dude might as well be a flat earthier or any other type of cultist lmao I mean you say that but you're the one adopting evangelical rhetoric. Act like you're interested in hearing other views/explanations Ignore them when presented Insult people who think differently to you Decide what entire groups of people to you think Declare them evil for what you decided Find group of likeminded people and repeat your unchallenged belief for comfort This is flatout the creationism playbook. I mean have you ever talked to someone who was hurt by what Brie Larson said? Have you ever talked to someone who thinks something different to what you think? ever? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 11/09/23 5:34:00 PM #176: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
This is flatout the creationism playbook. Lol UnfairRepresent posted... I mean have you ever talked to someone who was hurt by what Brie Larson said? LOL --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 11/09/23 5:34:07 PM #177: |
Im confused. Were her comments about criticism of A Wrinkle In Time? I may well have missed it, but looking over the cast she doesnt appear to be in it.
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:34:12 PM #178: |
UnfairRepresent posted... I found that movie to be utterly boring from start to finish. One of the weakest MCU movies by far. lol sure bud . That doesnt completely describe you at all. lol omg did she hurt your feelings ? Oh you poor thing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:34:24 PM #179: |
Case and point
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TMOG 11/09/23 5:35:02 PM #180: |
Wait did you just say that people who don't willfully misinterpret Brie Larson's statements to convince themselves that she's a racist are creationists? lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 11/09/23 5:35:22 PM #181: |
UnfairRepresent posted... I mean have you ever talked to someone who was hurt by what Brie Larson said? Have you? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sandalorn 11/09/23 5:35:24 PM #182: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
I dont need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didnt work about A Wrinkle in Time. It wasnt made for him! I want to know what that film meant to women of color, to biracial women, to teen women of color, to teens that are biracial. Translation : "I found it racist!" --- "There is literally no situation in their minds in which it is ok to bomb a hospital." - FlyEaglesFly24 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:35:35 PM #183: |
TMOG posted...
Wait did you just say that people who don't willfully misinterpret Brie Larson's statements to convince themselves that she's a racist are creationists?No. Nobody said anything like that o_O --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 11/09/23 5:36:12 PM #184: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Case and point The correct phrase is "case in point" Really showing your smarts here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 11/09/23 5:36:22 PM #185: |
UnfairRepresent posted... No. UnfairRepresent posted... This is flatout the creationism playbook. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ForsakenHermit 11/09/23 5:36:59 PM #186: |
She did say something dumb dismissing A Wrinkle of Time criticism from white men for valid reasons, because of diversity. It's one thing to condemn racists upset about diverse casting, It's another to dismiss their critique of a poor product because it's diverse.
Not worth the level of vitriol Brie has gotten but she did deserve some blowback for that. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:37:02 PM #187: |
TMOG posted... Wait did you just say that people who don't willfully misinterpret Brie Larson's statements to convince themselves that she's a racist are creationists? did you know white men everywhere are seeking psychiatric help after being recasted by Brie Larsons white men quote ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 11/09/23 5:38:14 PM #188: |
AloneIBreak posted...
Im confused. Were her comments about criticism of A Wrinkle In Time? I may well have missed it, but looking over the cast she doesnt appear to be in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e852S8RvlU --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trivialbeing 11/09/23 5:39:17 PM #189: |
hope she sees this bro ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:40:16 PM #190: |
TMOG posted... No.Why did you cut out the entire rest of the post. It was a post in response to one specific person's one specific actions after they projected their own attitude by accusing someone else of being a flat Earther or a Cultist (for the crime of disagreeing with him) despite him for the entire topic doing Creationism style rhetoric 101 that I laid out in detail. What I don't get is if you guys are so comfortable and confident in your views, why do you need to constantly lie and unfairly represent people to make a statement? Your defense of "Anyone who criticizes Larson is an incel who hates women end of." is "I'm going to pretend you claim we're all creationists when you didn't." That's not the actions of anyone with coinfidence. It's the action of the insecure bully who thinks they may be wrong but is too incurious to explore their own thoughts. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:40:33 PM #191: |
trivialbeing posted... hope she sees this bro i only want unhinged incels to see this . Bro . ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 11/09/23 5:41:40 PM #192: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Why did you cut out the entire rest of the post.In other words, you're saying that I'm deliberately misrepresenting your words to make it look like you said something you didn't say Are you this lacking in self-awareness? You can't recognize that I literally (and intentionally, for the record) just did to you what you've been doing to Brie Larson in this entire topic? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:43:25 PM #193: |
TMOG posted...
In other words, you're saying that I'm deliberately misrepresenting your words to make it look like you said something you didn't say Yes
Well it's easy to not be self-aware when a number of you in this topic decide what I think for me. Since that "Self" only exists in your imagination as you ignore the real one. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GetMagnaCarter 11/09/23 5:43:43 PM #194: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
That's your opinion.That would only be equivalent if the majority of movie critics were black men. If that were the case it would be part of a world very different to this one so the opinions of the people on this topic would be different to how they would be in the world as it is. (and thus moving into nonsensical hypotheticals) --- "Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did She die in vain?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 11/09/23 5:44:13 PM #195: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Well it's easy to not be self-aware when a number of you in this topic decide what I think for me. *dismissive jerking motion* Just shut up dude, you're only digging yourself deeper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/09/23 5:46:07 PM #196: |
GetMagnaCarter posted...
That would only be equivalent if the majority of movie critics were black men.You're entitled to your opinion and it's likely why Larson's comments don't bother you as much as others. But to some people "Being racist only matters in the right context" doesn't fly too well. What I don't get is pretending not to understand that, even if you don't agree with it. For the record, my opinions on racism being bad would be ironclad and in the same in both that hypothetical reality and this one. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:46:36 PM #197: |
They cant keep it going if they dont use nonsense hypotheticals lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 11/09/23 5:46:58 PM #198: |
Zero self-awareness it is, then ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calamity316 11/09/23 5:48:49 PM #199: |
UnfairRepresent posted... You're entitled to your opinion and it's likely why Larson's comments don't bother you as much as others. youre example is a red herring and also a false equivalency. Weve already talked about this . ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 11/09/23 5:49:05 PM #200: |
It's so weird that he's still insisting that the only problem people had with her is that she's supposedly racist, while at the same time accusing other people of assuming what people think. Hell, no one even said that all critics of Larson are incels, just that most of them are, but he's taking that ball and running to the end zone with it. Shit is wildly hypocritical but hey, that's UF for ya, always wrong and always ready to argue about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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