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Kim_Seong-a
11/10/23 7:17:04 AM
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Connery *would've* ended on the perfectly decent YOLT, but he got coaxed back for DAF.

Moore could've ended on Octopussy but against all reason they kept him on for AVTAK.

Brosnan had DAD, Craig has NTTD

Like Jesus christ, it seems like the only way for a Bond actor to go out on top is to barely do any. OHMSS was great but Lazenby lost interest in continuing and dipped, and Dalton got screwed by legal nonsense putting the franchise on hiatus.

Maybe the next Bond actor will have a worthwhile finale...in 25 goddam years Jesus this franchise is slow as shit now <_<

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SomeLikeItHoth
11/10/23 7:17:34 AM
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I don't know what any of those abbreviations mean.

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Kim_Seong-a
11/10/23 7:19:24 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
I don't know what any of those abbreviations mean.

You Only Live Twice

Diamonds Are Forever

A View To A Kill. (The one with Christopher Walken)

Die Another Day

No Time To Die

On Her Majesty's Secret Service

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Phoro
11/10/23 7:21:00 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
I don't know what any of those abbreviations mean.

You Only Live Twice
Diamonds are Forever
A View to a Kill
Die Another Day
No Time to Die
On Her Majesty's Secret Service

Edit: damn. So close!

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Forty_Niners
11/10/23 7:22:12 AM
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The last Bond film was pretty definitive

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Kim_Seong-a
11/10/23 7:24:18 AM
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Forty_Niners posted...
The last Bond film was pretty definitive

It definitively said "James Bond Will Return" just like every other one.

So either they're doing what everyone expects and starting another continuity, or Zombie Craig


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Southernfatman
11/10/23 7:28:52 AM
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Yeah, but it was fine since James Bond always returned. Would have been nice for the actors themselves. Can't comment on Craig because I still haven't seen NTTD. Spectre killed my interest in the Craig saga. Hopefully they'll either go back to the old loose and floating continuity or do period pieces with Bond in the 50s/60s fighting the Soviets like the novels.

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Cheater87
11/10/23 7:31:36 AM
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Only Bond I experienced was Goldeneye 007 for the N64, and BBC radio versions of the books.

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Dragon239
11/10/23 7:33:39 AM
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You want James Bond to fully end overall?

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Kim_Seong-a
11/10/23 7:37:20 AM
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Dragon239 posted...
You want James Bond to fully end overall?

Nah I just want at least one actor to be Bond for more than 3 movies *and* retire from the franchise on a high note.

Moore had like 3 chances but they kept bringing him back lol.

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Revisited
11/10/23 7:38:50 AM
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I disagree, heck Daniel Craig bond had a surprisingly good ending considering the trash fire that was spectre and disappointment of Skyfall.

The whole "having a daughter that he sacrifices his life for" was both very cliche, didn't fit in the bond world, and yet somehow kinda worked. Because we love Lea seydoux.
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Kimbos_Egg
11/10/23 7:39:19 AM
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goldeneye.

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Kim_Seong-a
11/10/23 7:40:58 AM
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Revisited posted...
I disagree, heck Daniel Craig bond had a surprisingly good ending considering the trash fire that was spectre and disappointment of Skyfall.

The whole "having a daughter that he sacrifices his life for" was both very cliche, didn't fit in the bond world, and yet somehow kinda worked. Because we love Lea seydoux.

My main problem with NTTD is that the emotional beats all hinge on the single most boring Bond girl in the entire series. >_>

Also killing Felix fucking sucked they didn't need to throw that in there too fuck <_<


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Southernfatman
11/10/23 7:43:49 AM
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The more I hear about NTTD, the less I want to see it. I've seen much praise of it too, but it doesn't sound like something I'd like. The whole Craig run was a disappointment for me even if 2 of the movies were good, even if flawed. I hated the idea of rebooting JB in the first place. There was no need to.

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Kim_Seong-a
11/10/23 7:47:45 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
The more I hear about NTTD, the less I want to see it. I've seen much praise of it too, but it doesn't sound like something I'd like. The whole Craig run was a disappointment for me even if 2 of the movies were good, even if flawed. I hated the idea of rebooting JB in the first place. There was no need to.

It's worth watching, if for nothing else, to hear the worst title drop in the history of film and possibly all fiction.

Like CE has gone through countless "you know x, this really is y" meme threads and none of them are as bad as what NTTD pulled

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Funkydog
11/10/23 7:48:46 AM
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I liked Craig's ending tbh. The film itself did have issues though.

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Revisited
11/10/23 7:50:19 AM
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Disagree, it was perfect for an omega watch ad (as you know it's the sponsored watch of Daniel Craig and James Bond)

I can picture the commercial now:

"Hey Bond do you know what time it is?"

"Yes *checks omega symbol watch* time to die"
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Kim_Seong-a
11/10/23 7:52:06 AM
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Revisited posted...
Disagree, it was perfect for an omega watch ad (as you know it's the sponsored watch of Daniel Craig and James Bond)

I can picture the commercial now:

"Hey Bond do you know what time it is?"

"Yes *checks omega symbol watch* time to die"

But that's exactly what they did in the movie but unironically. >_>

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Southernfatman
11/10/23 7:53:13 AM
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That sounds so dumb it's funny. Sounds like something Roger Moore's Bond would do.

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MrResetti
11/10/23 7:57:16 AM
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That's a villain line, Bond would say "Time for a drink" or something

Then use some prop to drop the person who asked the question into a body of water containing something deadly
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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 8:04:40 AM
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My problem with NTTD is that if a villain is going to actually kill Bond, they'd better be the best damn villain of all time. Safin was decidedly not. NTTD was written backwards, and it shows.

But Daniel Craig and Lea Seydoux do a great job in that final scene. Whatever problems the movie (and Craig saga as a whole) had, the caliber of acting on display was never one of them.

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GeminiDeus
11/10/23 8:09:45 AM
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So, why do you think it is people complain about "unnecessary" sequels but don't complain about getting "another Bond movie?" I've never been into the Bond series, though my father liked the movies and I've watched some with him back in the late 80's when I was a kid.

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Trelve
11/10/23 8:20:51 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
It's worth watching, if for nothing else, to hear the worst title drop in the history of film and possibly all fiction.

Like CE has gone through countless "you know x, this really is y" meme threads and none of them are as bad as what NTTD pulled
Well, it's up there with
"Wow. What a view!"
"To A Kill."

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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 8:28:19 AM
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GeminiDeus posted...
So, why do you think it is people complain about "unnecessary" sequels but don't complain about getting "another Bond movie?" I've never been into the Bond series, though my father liked the movies and I've watched some with him back in the late 80's when I was a kid.

It's a series of adventures of the week. "Come see more of this character" rather than a complete narrative with a conclusion. The Craig era notwithstanding, but that has definitively concluded and the only way forward is another reboot.

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GeminiDeus
11/10/23 9:07:06 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
It's a series of adventures of the week. "Come see more of this character" rather than a complete narrative with a conclusion. The Craig era notwithstanding, but that has definitively concluded and the only way forward is another reboot.
Couldn't Indiana Jones be considered to be in the same category, then?

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R1masher
11/10/23 9:12:01 AM
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Bond multiverse when

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brestugo
11/10/23 9:13:17 AM
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I've seen most of the movies and always left somewhat unsatisfied. I've been meaning to read some of the novels, which I hope wrap things up better than the movies do.

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Forty_Niners
11/10/23 3:18:25 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
It definitively said "James Bond Will Return" just like every other one.

So either they're doing what everyone expects and starting another continuity, or Zombie Craig
I mean are you saying that the character should never return? We've had how many King Arthur, Robin Hood, and Batman's at this point, but you think James Bond should be the one that never gets a new iteration?

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Kaldrenthebold
11/10/23 3:19:30 PM
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No Time to Die is literally a finale.

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Kaldrenthebold
11/10/23 3:45:44 PM
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I greatly enjoyed it, not sure why others don't. The villain being weak is probably the biggest knock against it, but it has a lot of awesome moments. The Cuban shootout, the foggy forest and the final stairwell climb are just awesome.

I love the one shot stairwell climb especially because it reminds me of Casino Royale. Bond is struggling against one guy while tumbling down steps. In NTTD, he dispatches like 15 people with pure skill and violence. Really shows how much he has grown. Casino is him going down, NTTD is him going up. It's awesome.

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