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boomgetchopped3 11/11/23 5:43:24 PM #1: |
Cant they confirm their original claim that troops are hiding in these hospitals or not? If we dont get any confirmation is it safe to assume that was bullshit? Or no? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 11/11/23 5:44:05 PM #2: |
If you blow up a building and everybody inside you don't have to confirm anything
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Trumble 11/11/23 5:44:43 PM #3: |
It's safe to assume it was bullshit regardless of what Israel claim. If an independent third party claim it's true, based on their own investigation rather than repeating Israel, that's a different story. But Israel at this point have such a strong pattern of disinformation and war crimes that nothing they say should be taken as fact without neutral third party confirmation.
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Ronaldo 11/11/23 5:56:36 PM #4: |
There has been confirmation for years that Hamas uses hospitals, schools, residential neighborhoods to house their military operations and uses their own civilians to shield themselves. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 11/11/23 5:57:49 PM #5: |
Ronaldo posted...
There has been confirmation for years that Hamas uses hospitals, schools, residential neighborhoods to house their military operations and uses their own civilians to shield themselves.There have been claims from Israel for years. Most cases where they've claimed it in as justification for actions have either never been confirmed either way, or have been debunked. It's very obviously just an excuse to bombard civilian targets. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 11/11/23 5:57:55 PM #6: |
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There has been confirmation for years that Hamas uses hospitals, schools, residential neighborhoods to house their military operations and uses their own civilians to shield themselves.So what you're saying is that all hospitals schools and residential neighborhoods have Hamas in it including ones in Israel --- See profile pic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ronaldo 11/11/23 6:02:27 PM #7: |
No, what I am saying is what I typed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 11/11/23 6:03:34 PM #8: |
Ronaldo posted...
There has been confirmation for years that Hamas uses hospitals, schools, residential neighborhoods to house their military operations and uses their own civilians to shield themselves.And that justifies killing the civilians to get to them? --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 11/11/23 6:03:57 PM #9: |
Ronaldo posted...
There has been confirmation for years that Hamas uses hospitals, schools, residential neighborhoods to house their military operations and uses their own civilians to shield themselves.Ah, so that means Israel is completely justified in killing everyone in these areas since they could be Hamas. /s --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ronaldo 11/11/23 6:04:32 PM #11: |
creativerealms posted... And that justifies killing the civilians to get to them?No. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AltAccount3 11/11/23 6:08:19 PM #12: |
Irony posted...
So what you're saying is that all hospitals schools and residential neighborhoods have Hamas in it including ones in IsraelWell there are no non-combatants in Gaza, remember? All deaths are considered Hamas terrorists. That's what they said! --- VFalcone, one of many ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/13/23 7:10:09 PM #13: |
I saw a tweet where they were going around the hospital claiming that they had proof that people were there. However other people said that their proof were lies. I don't know who is telling the truth. However later on, they side that they found a baby bottle in the basement that much have meant hostages were there. So that makes me question everything. If they are bombing the Hospital like they said yes we are doing. Then yeah people are going to take cover .
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s0nicfan 11/13/23 7:13:00 PM #14: |
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67400490
The Israel Defense Force's chief spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari set high expectations, promising his briefing would expose to the world that Hamas uses hospitals as an instrument of war. During the press conference, Israeli military spokesperson Daniel Hagari also said he had been to Gaza, to Rantisi children's hospital himself, and filmed what he described as "concrete evidence" that "Hamas uses hospitals as an instrument of war".https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/32e9dbf8.jpg --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlyEaglesFly24 11/13/23 7:21:27 PM #16: |
Unfortunately you have to take everything the IDF says with a grain of salt. While its a strong probability that Hamas would doing something like that, the body count makes the point completely moot.
Had they gone about their business in a different way, and werent taking the orders from a far right war cabinet that makes it embarrassing to be Jewish, we probably would have a much easier time understanding how bad Hamas is. But as it stands, the Hospital could have a Hamas flag on it, and it wouldnt make a difference. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 11/14/23 4:17:46 PM #18: |
Updates from the BBC live feed:
US says intelligence shows Hamas has base under Al-Shifa --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 11/14/23 4:20:49 PM #20: |
FlyEaglesFly24 posted...
from a far right war cabinet that makes it embarrassing to be JewishRegular Jewish people are not to blame for the actions of Israel's government and military. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlyEaglesFly24 11/14/23 4:23:16 PM #21: |
Trumble posted...
Regular Jewish people are not to blame for the actions of Israel's government and military. Association is a hell of a thing. You didnt have college students at the University of Maryland putting up a Holocaust 2.0 banner at school if people agreed with that statement. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 11/14/23 4:40:51 PM #22: |
Hamas can be using hospitals and schools to stage attacks while at the same time Israel is using callous methods that cause vast amounts of unnecessary collateral damage.
Just think about this for a second. Why would Israel waste resources and endanger Israeli lives by besieging a hospital? If they just want to kill the civilians, this is a pretty stupid fucking way of doing it. Israel at the very least believes Hamas is inside the hospital. They must have actionable intel to do so. They are letting civilians exit. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 11/14/23 4:44:53 PM #23: |
FlyEaglesFly24 posted...
Association is a hell of a thing. You didnt have college students at the University of Maryland putting up a Holocaust 2.0 banner at school if people agreed with that statement.And those students are fucking bigoted idiots. It's unfortunately fallout from Netanyahu and co trying to claim they do represent all Jewish people, and crying "anti-Semitism" when criticized. But like any other Israeli propaganda, it too is very important to call out for the bullshit it is. Even if one were to hypothetically take the concept of Israel as a holy land that belongs to the Jewish people as literal and factual (and as disclosure here, I only really know the Christian view on that claim), that does not mean the people currently in charge of it are the people who speak for all Jewish people. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlyEaglesFly24 11/14/23 6:05:55 PM #24: |
Trumble posted...
And those students are fucking bigoted idiots. Yeah well, if it was an isolated incident, I might agree with you. But its everywhere. Even you, sliding in some anti Israel comment into every god damn post, its just a constant barrage of the Jewish narrative is a false one, were the problem here, and the only way to be free of that is to distance ourselves from Israel as a whole. Not the Israeli government, but the whole damn thing. And then you have the extremists who think we all deserve to die. Its just a constant flow of that kind of information to the point where it all sounds the same. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mysterious_One 11/16/23 11:21:57 AM #25: |
Not buying this because Israel been caught lying multiple lies (in addition to committing genocide) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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