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HylianFox
02/03/24 2:03:28 PM
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You know, like how Final Fantasy gives us
Fire
Fira
Firaga
(I forgot there's also aja but only Dia gets that one, Fire/Blizzard/Thunder cap at aga)

While games like Fire Emblem have
Fire
Elfire
Arcfire
(also forgot the Rex tier of spells:i.e. Rexflame)

and so forth

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HylianFox
02/03/24 2:04:15 PM
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Skies of Arcadia has
Pyri
Pyres
Pyrum
Pyrulen

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Ricemills
02/03/24 2:05:05 PM
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Megido
Megidola
Megidolaonn

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JKwaffle
02/03/24 2:05:22 PM
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Are the any games that take it simplistically silly and just do:
Fire
Bigger Fire
Really Big Fire

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Hambo
02/03/24 2:14:13 PM
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Fire-Fira-Firaga(-Firaja/Firaza) is the only pattern I know, so that.

JKwaffle posted...
Are the any games that take it simplistically silly and just do:
Fire
Bigger Fire
Really Big Fire
I wanna say Mario RPG or Paper Mario just adds "Super" and whatever to attacks, but I've never played them so idk.

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GranAures
02/03/24 2:21:05 PM
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JKwaffle posted...
Are the any games that take it simplistically silly and just do:
Fire
Bigger Fire
Really Big Fire
Strong
Stronger
Champion

Bravery
Courage

Perish
Destroy

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Trumble
02/03/24 2:22:47 PM
#8:


HylianFox posted...
You know, like how Final Fantasy gives us
Fire
Fira
Firaga
(I forgot there's also aja but only Dia gets that one, Fire/Blizzard/Thunder cap at aga)
Dark Ixion (an optional superboss) in FFX also uses a spell called Thundaja, although it's actually non-elemental.

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Humble_Novice
02/03/24 2:24:17 PM
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Cure I
Cure II
Cure III
Cure IV

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GranAures
02/03/24 2:26:25 PM
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Trumble posted...
Dark Ixion (an optional superboss) in FFX also uses a spell called Thundaja, although it's actually non-elemental.
It really depends on if a game in question goes up to level 4. I know aja versions exist in several mediums, Curaja definitely.

KH seems to have a similar convention that exists in accessories of base, ra, ga, gun

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MorbidEngel
02/03/24 2:27:00 PM
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Trumble posted...
Dark Ixion (an optional superboss) in FFX also uses a spell called Thundaja, although it's actually non-elemental.

Later ports of Final Fantasy 4 (GBA and later I know do) change Cure 4 to Curaja. It's also the only -aja spell in the game as it's the only spell that got a fourth tier of power.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
02/03/24 2:28:30 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Fire 1
Fire 2
Fire 3

The 1st iteration of a Spell should be clearly labelled IMO.

Then you could put all the iterations of the spells behind the "Fire Spell Folder" and go "Hexadecimal" in the labeling"
  • Fire 0
  • Fire 1
  • Fire 2
  • Fire 3
  • Fire 4
  • Fire 5
  • Fire 6
  • Fire 7
  • Fire 8
  • Fire 9
  • Fire A
  • Fire B
  • Fire C
  • Fire D
  • Fire E
  • Fire F

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Hambo
02/03/24 2:29:33 PM
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GranAures posted...
KH seems to have a similar convention that exists in accessories of base, ra, ga, gun
It also has Stopza in KH3's cutscenes (since there's no usable Stop spell in 3). I don't remember if -za spells are also usable as grand magic.

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Trumble
02/03/24 2:30:06 PM
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MorbidEngel posted...
Later ports of Final Fantasy 4 (GBA and later I know do) change Cure 4 to Curaja. It's also the only -aja spell in the game as it's the only spell that got a fourth tier of power.
I never got far enough into FF4 to find that. I played the PS1 port and the DS remake but yeah, just didn't click. Same for all the 2D era FFs apart from FF6 tbh.

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GranAures
02/03/24 2:30:36 PM
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Hambo posted...
It also has Stopza in KH3's cutscenes (since there's no usable Stop spell in 3). I don't remember if -za spells are also usable as grand magic.
Yeah grand magic, duh. Nice fail me

So yeah KH 3 uses za instead of aja.
Gun was more a 2 thing probably.

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bnui_ransder
02/03/24 2:33:10 PM
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As long as they arent numbered im good

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Nirvanas_Nox
02/03/24 2:39:03 PM
#17:


HylianFox posted...
You know, like how Final Fantasy gives us
Fire
Fira
Firaga
(I forgot there's also aja but only Dia gets that one, Fire/Blizzard/Thunder cap at aga)

While games like Fire Emblem have
Fire
Elfire
Arcfire

and so forth

Dia isn't the only one that gets aja. Fire, blizzard, thunder, cure, and aero all get an aja form.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/03/24 2:47:34 PM
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I like the megaten spell names.

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Naysaspace
02/03/24 2:49:35 PM
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alternative topic title: do you like pre-ff12 or post-ff12 spell naming conventions?

just give me cure 1, 2, 3. easier that way.

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VampireCoyote
02/03/24 2:51:00 PM
#20:


Nicaragua

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HylianFox
02/03/24 2:53:03 PM
#21:


Hambo posted...
I wanna say Mario RPG or Paper Mario just adds "Super" and whatever to attacks, but I've never played them so idk.

Paper Mario usually just does that to equipment:
(Normal)
Super
Ultra

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GATTJT
02/03/24 2:56:16 PM
#22:


Fire
Better Fire
Best Fire
Bestest Fire

There's no game in existence that uses this system, but mine will be the first!

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RndmNmber1
02/03/24 2:59:58 PM
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Comparing Dragon Quest spells is hard too. There was 3 names, Japanese, classic English translation, and modern translation.

  1. Mera
  2. Merami
  3. Merazoma
Mera is the sound of fire burning in Japanese.
For the classic we got
  1. Blaze
  2. Blazemore
  3. Blazemost
And in the modern translation they're:
  1. Frizz
  2. Frizzle
  3. Kafrizz


I like the classic better, but I guess the modern fits the theme of the Japanese name.

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BucketCat
02/03/24 3:02:55 PM
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idk if it's a convention, but I liked how Chrono Cross did it for their spell tiers
-Fire Ball
-Magma Bomb
-Fire Pillar
-Magma Burst
-Inferno
-Volcano

casting "Volcano" feels way more badass than "fire 3" or "firaga"

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HylianFox
02/03/24 3:03:13 PM
#25:


RndmNmber1 posted...
Mera is the sound of fire burning in Japanese.

For the life of me I will never understand Japanese onomatopoeia

"Mera" is in no way what fire sounds like
>_>

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RndmNmber1
02/03/24 3:04:32 PM
#26:


HylianFox posted...
For the life of me I will never understand Japanese onomatopoeia

"Mera" is in no way what fire sounds like
>_>

We have "go go go go...." as menacing sound, meramera isn't that bad in comparison.

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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
02/03/24 3:09:53 PM
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RndmNmber1 posted...
We have "go go go go...." as menacing sound, meramera isn't that bad in comparison.

You thought we would be a jojo reference, BUT IT WAS THE HEALING SPELL, DIA!


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Kamen_Rider_Blade
02/03/24 3:12:21 PM
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BucketCat posted...
idk if it's a convention, but I liked how Chrono Cross did it for their spell tiers
-Fire Ball
-Magma Bomb
-Fire Pillar
-Magma Burst
-Inferno
-Volcano

casting "Volcano" feels way more badass than "fire 3" or "firaga"

The only issue is which spell does more damage than the other?

If you were new to the spell system and you just had to look at a list, w/o trying each spell out and no other informational clues, which one does more damage?

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bigtiggie23
02/03/24 3:12:42 PM
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RndmNmber1 posted...
Comparing Dragon Quest spells is hard too. There was 3 names, Japanese, classic English translation, and modern translation.

1. Mera
2. Merami
3. Merazoma
Mera is the sound of fire burning in Japanese.
For the classic we got
1. Blaze
2. Blazemore
3. Blazemost
And in the modern translation they're:
1. Frizz
2. Frizzle
3. Kafrizz

I like the classic better, but I guess the modern fits the theme of the Japanese name.
With Dragon Quest I always liked

Bang
Boom
Kaboom
Kaboomie

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RndmNmber1
02/03/24 3:16:48 PM
#30:


bigtiggie23 posted...
With Dragon Quest I always liked

Bang
Boom
Kaboom
Kaboomie

These one is fun too
Whack
Thwack
Kathwack

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BucketCat
02/03/24 3:17:20 PM
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Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...
If you were new to the spell system and you just had to look at a list, w/o trying each spell out and no other informational clues, which one does more damage?
based on whatever their default placement on the elements grid is. so a tier-2 spell will be weaker than a tier-3.
also, because volcano sounds stronger than fire ball.

it does get confusing with things like "magma ball" vs "fire ball" because technically magma ball is weaker, but targets multiple enemies, whereas fireball deals more damage but only targets one enemy.


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Nirvanas_Nox
02/03/24 3:21:15 PM
#32:


Totally forgot to answer lmfao. I really loved Lost Odysseys tier system.

Flare/a/us
Aqua/ra/us
Ground/a/us
Wind/a/us


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MorbidEngel
02/03/24 9:25:28 PM
#33:


Naysaspace posted...
alternative topic title: do you like pre-ff12 or post-ff12 spell naming conventions?

just give me cure 1, 2, 3. easier that way.

Final Fantasy using -a to denote a tier 2 spell, -aga for tier 3 and -aja for tier 4 was in use as far back as Final Fantasy 8. I don't remember if 7 used it and I don't think 6 did.

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mehmeh1
02/03/24 9:27:23 PM
#34:


GranAures posted...
Yeah grand magic, duh. Nice fail me

So yeah KH 3 uses za instead of aja.
Gun was more a 2 thing probably.
Gun was from 0.2 IIRC

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Unknown5uspect
02/03/24 9:29:08 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Megido
Megidola
Megidolaonn
Sine! Cosine! Tangenton!

There's also the Devil Survivor boss Lucifer exclusive Megidoladyne. Not sure if that shows up in other games.

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PowerOats
02/03/24 9:29:11 PM
#36:


Final Fantasy and Skies of Arcadia, easily

Sounds cool and is easier to remember
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ForsakenHermit
02/03/24 9:30:18 PM
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SMT is the worst, some of the spells sound like Cosby gibberish.

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Alles-Losen
02/03/24 9:33:20 PM
#38:


The way Disgaea does it

Star
Mega Star
Giga Star
Omega Star
Tera Star

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PaperSplash
02/03/24 9:36:25 PM
#39:


Fire Emblem's and modern Dragon Quest's are the most memorable to me (along with Final Fantasy's, of course) though that may also be Smash's influence.
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Relient_K
02/03/24 9:39:06 PM
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I feel like nostalgia is at fault but Final Fantasy and Dragon quest are great with spell name tiers. Easy to remember.

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Scintillant
02/03/24 9:40:32 PM
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Demon Fang
Demon Fang
Damn, I must be a GENIUS!
Double Demon Fang

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MatzoTov
02/03/24 9:41:24 PM
#42:


Nirvanas_Nox posted...
I really loved Lost Odysseys tier system.

Flare/a/us
Aqua/ra/us
Ground/a/us
Wind/a/us
Man of culture as well, etc

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RndmNmber1
02/03/24 9:43:59 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
SMT is the worst, some of the spells sound like Cosby gibberish.

Many of the spells are bastardizations of ancient words from Sanskrit, Ancient Hebrew, and other old languages.

Agi was based on Agni, the Ma in multiple target spells are from the word Maha that means Great.

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Notti
02/06/24 6:34:57 AM
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BucketCat posted...
idk if it's a convention, but I liked how Chrono Cross did it for their spell tiers
-Fire Ball
-Magma Bomb
-Fire Pillar
-Magma Burst
-Inferno
-Volcano

casting "Volcano" feels way more badass than "fire 3" or "firaga"

Best system.

RndmNmber1 posted...
For the classic we got
Blaze
Blazemore
Blazemost


2nd best.

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