Current Events > Do you think trump is in better physical health or biden?

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TMOG posted...

Because I don't claim to want to leave? This site's got its fair share of problems under Fandom's rule, but I still like posting here, particularly on LUE or for running my character tournaments.

Now, are you going to answer why you're here today if you hate it so much? You've been posting about how much you don't want to be here for almost two full hours now, lmao

Well, it has other problems like not punishing a bunch of people on this site, but removing Politics was a big step forward. Now one little circlejerk is gone. :)

And, tbh, I figured I could leave that and go or just reply to a few posts, but I just lost track of time. The same applies for you though, you've been here for a while...

There's really one reason I'm here though atm, I planned to cut things off earlier.

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No, I clearly meant the Republican party, not what you're trying to imply here. Most people hate the Republicans for the same reasons they hate Trump, I see it everywhere and I figured you'd be the same, you matched the patterns until recently.

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You edited this in so.

You're still using the word strawman wrong. You mean assuming things. And preemptively addressing potential counterpoints.

Because I am knowledgeable on politics. I am a senior data analyst who has worked for organizations that directly used said data in the political arena. I have conducted research and papers and helmed teams that have been useful in using that data to reinforce or even pass certain legislation. This isn't a hobby for me. It's my career.

Can I see some of this data as well as something that shows it was from you or something? Because you sound like you're just using your potential position ("I'm an expert, I know what I'm talking about!") as proof that your opinions are correct while sounding like a tool for others. Some of this sounds too... lofty as well. And convenient.

"Of course you would predict this because Trump being the candidate is a foregone conclusion."

No, I'm pretty I predicted it because I was listening to what others, most likely Democrats, were saying.

This is literally an immature stance. I haven't treated you in any specific way. I responded to you cordially. I wasn't snarky in my initial reply to you or anything. I simply gave my position and stance. Then you threw a fit.

Post #73 was not a fit.

You know, it's odd, you say that you don't post here much, yet you make very similar stances as them. "The opponent is throwing a fit because they're disagreeing with me" or, one that hasn't been brought up yet by anyone: "The opponent is showing even a hint of anger. It must be because I'm right, not that I'm stupid or nothing they say is getting through to me, or that I'm genuinely just trolling which is annoying" are FAQs classics FYI.

Remember when Biden fell over on his bike and the repgus had a good laff, but then he got right back up again and kept exercising

Donny 2 scoops ain't doing none of that

PballDepot posted...

Remember when Biden fell over on his bike and the repgus had a good laff, but then he got right back up again and kept exercising

Donny 2 scoops ain't doing none of that

Biden can actually ride. When was the last time you saw turmpy boy's fat ass riding a bike?

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Actually, I changed my mind. I'm no longer interested, you'll fit in nicely on this site, let's end things here with this.

Post #49 was me calling out how people would obviously go on about how "Trump is ultra dangerous, so therefore we must vote Democrat no matter who!". This idiotic mindset pushed by people on this site who don't want to try to change things gets evil people, sometimes who are STILL dangerous and should NOT have access to nukes, elected because they're "not Hitler".

Not at all. I think Trump (not republicans as a whole) is the greatest threat to our democracy. I didn't feel this way regarding bush and I don't think John Mccain would have done any serious damage either. I even provided my reasons why. You never stated why those reasons aren't cause for concern and I even mentioned how those reasons will get even indepedent voters to vote democrat against republican. This isn't "politicians" getting in my head.

Your opinions deviate from the majority of people here on a few things.

And those reasons are cause for concern, but my issue is then going "so we MUST vote Democrat no matter who!". The focus is only the news regarding on why on Repubs are bad, how stupid they are, etc while intentionally not signal boosting stories regarding Democrats that make them look bad, because "two party system", "wait until after the election" (BRUH what if the Democrat candidate is potentially a actual criminal???? Who fucking cares if it's Hitler, would America still give up, elect a serial killer into office unironically because of their party and "how the person is literally worse" and then DARE to all look at me and say "this is the smart thing to do :)" or electing someone who committed several crimes is still an absolute embarrassment to our political system)

People who would unironically elect someone who is still awful because "they're not Hitler" do not deserve the right to vote, partly for their own safety. With THESE people gone, politics is a better, smarter place.

You did use it in place of my argument-

Mmkay, well, you're wrong, I've repeated this 4 times now and I'm sick of typing this out. You don't know what a strawman is, I dealt with the crux already.

And your first counterargument was just "But we CANT DO ANYTHING". Sure, it was polite, which is why I wasn't super rude... but it was the same defeatist, unchanging mindset I expected.

Learn to debate and learn not to use logical fallacies if you want to be taken seriously or at the very least don't throw a fit if you have nothing else to say.

Yeah, yeah, you're "cooly and calmly being a badass" while I'm "throwing a temper tantrum and saying nothing at all". You're clearly "delulu" at this point.

No, the only one who doesn't know anything is you. I don't believe you anymore when you claim to be this expert who has done change, you're sounding more and more like some Internet random pretending to be this super badass online when you absolutely do not reason like someone in these positions, and post #65 is just repeating what people say about how Trump is literally the end of everything, so therefore we must vote Democrat no matter who.

You've said nothing "informative", just repeated what others say, if anything you actually repeat the EXACT arguments everyone says against me for why they don't want to try. THAT is why you were told to go back and reread my post. It applies to you, you're not that special in the end.

I dare you to go back to my first post and show me where I deserved your hostile response. For someone complaining about people trolling and baiting you seem to have literally no sense of self awareness.

Because you're continuing with defeatist mindsets that this site loooooves, and my first reply to you was not hostile. But now... I'm honestly tired of keeping the gloves on, since I'm somehow "insulting" you in previous replies and being this completely mean and totally rude to you and making no sense at all, while you're coolly and calmly "fighting back" and "making all of these smart points", it's so obvious what you're seeing this as.

Just admit you don't like it that your actually very common reply wasn't as "thought-provoking" as you thought it was.

I'll answer this politely despite my frustration. Here's why..

Note by eventually I don't mean anytime in the near future. Right now you have republicans who want to go back to the old guard. Trump brought the maga's out of the wood work. People who want extreme nationalism. Biden has much of the younger voters completely angry with him over the israel fiasco. People who want a more left winged style government. It's coming to a head so much that people are speculating regarding civil war (something I doubt will happen.) States refusing to abide by federal laws. Complete disorder in congress with frequent threats to shut down.

You mean you're actually explaining yourself finally, sure.

Anyways, a bunch of this has already happened before. Stuff like 9/11 happened and plenty of other conflicts and "major" events... nothing changed. It's pretty obvious something actually game changing and not just "current events" needs to happen.

The specific (two party or bust) mindset existed and change still occurred. So I will have to disagree with you there.

>complains about fallacies, again
>uses fallacies, again

Right, we're done here, you're ultimately no different. Bye bye!

Vanished posted...

Right, we're done here. Bye bye!

Let's hope that's actually true, finally.

Giant walls of text defending "bof sides" nonsense are extremely annoying.

You know, if Vanished really hated this site and wanted to leave, you'd think they would just close their account lol

But then I guess the account wouldn't have any value as an incredibly obvious alt

FFS who is this fucking Vanished dude and why is he such a drama queen? He read like a more belligerent joe numbers.

I hope he's finally...vanished.

Vanished posted...

Yeah, yeah, you're "cooly and calmly being a badass" while I'm "throwing a temper tantrum and saying nothing at all".

You are fully aware of what's happening, and yet continue.

ScazarMeltex posted...

FFS who is this fucking Vanished dude and why is he such a drama queen? He read like a more belligerent joe numbers.

The Fnumbers guy I'm thinking of is more illiterate, so giant walls of text, no matter how stupid, would seem to be above his pay grade.

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Yeah. Reading his "logic" in his posts comes off super *that reddit board* style of posting and "look at me and my debate skills" try hard.

they should have a boxing match

To answer the OP I think Biden is in better physical health.
Trump is overweight and we've all seen how and what he eats plus he's old.
Biden is just old.

As for mental health I think Biden wins there too. I've been alarmed recently by what I've heard from Biden yes but I honestly think his mind is still sharp and he's still all there. It just feels like verbalizing his thoughts is becoming more of an issue. You can tell he knows what he wants to say he just can't do it sometimes. With Trump it's just a mess all over.

Physical is easily Biden.

Im going with the guy who exercises regularly, isnt obese or even overweight at all, and doesnt have to brag about passing a cognitive test given to stroke and dementia victims

No way.

Didn't Biden once fall while biking and got up like nothing happened? If that were me, I'd likely broken something and be on the ground for minutes and I'm over 50 years younger than Biden.

By voice, I would say Trump is in better health (the softness of Biden's voice reminds me of my father's when he was on his deathbed). But by every other metric it's Biden

MrAntisocial posted...

By voice, I would say Trump is in better health (the softness of Biden's voice reminds me of my father's when he was on his deathbed). But by every other metric it's Biden

yeah i kinda agree. Kinda few people mention that, softer voice. Don't really remember biden from yrs and yrs ago. It was much louder and stuff back then?