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You entirely sure about that?

Because they're pretty fuckin' worried about Project 2025.

I have seen it mentioned on this board, but don't know what it exactly entails.

When discussing the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Severino called for the rescinding of regulations "prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, transgender status, sex characteristics, etc."

Further, in the foreword to the 2023 edition of Mandate for Leadership, Roberts indicates that in today's society, pornography manifests "in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children". A few sentences later, he states, "Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered."

And then he went on to say the work to make the country run doesn't depend on just that one guy, but on hundreds and hundreds of hard-working scrubs going through the coal mines every single day.

Project 2025 is a plan to reshape the executive branch of the U.S. federal government in the event of a Republican victory in the 2024 U.S. presidential election. Established in 2022, the project seeks to recruit tens of thousands of conservatives to Washington, D.C., to replace existing federal civil service workers it characterizes as the "deep state", to further the objectives of the next Republican president.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

Then read about it and learn why it's a pretty big deal.

Just because Trump (or any Republican) isn't in office, that doesn't mean the fight is over for LGBTQ people in the US.

1. It's on a Wikipedia page, which means it is entirely known;
2. You act like the Democrats are completely powerless to stop it and would be taken completely by surprise;
3. If it is some master plan to wipe away civic rights and protections for entire sects of citizens, I wouldn't be hearing about it for the first time on a Gamefaqs message board.

If it is some master plan to wipe away civic rights and protections for entire sects of citizens, I wouldn't be hearing about it for the first time on a Gamefaqs message board.

The question of course is WHY are those progressives positive about it....

Progressives were out ahead on the issue of false equivalency, both sides-ism, rampant in the media. If they are blatantly turning a blind eye to this one has to wonder why? Is it because they suddenly are big fans of the false both sides-ism or is it that they are still fighting that idiotic 2016/2020 fight.

.... or are they just the progressive grifters that people have been warned about (like Nina Turner, etc)

^This. It's not about pretending Biden is perfect (he's not, of course). It's about not losing sight of the enormous difference between Biden and Trump.

Minimizing that difference is an example of the Great Both Sides Lie

Well man, 3 things about this project if it is a real thing:
1. It's on a Wikipedia page, which means it is entirely known;
2. You act like the Democrats are completely powerless to stop it and would be taken completely by surprise;
3. If it is some master plan to wipe away civic rights and protections for entire sects of citizens, I wouldn't be hearing about it for the first time on a Gamefaqs message board.
It sounds like just another one of those Great Replacement theories and somebody somewhere dreamed up to scare people.

Is Conan not a thing anymore? I don't stay up late enough to watch this stuff

Nah he stopped his show a few years back. I think he has an agreement with HBO for some remotes like when he went to Japan or Cuba. But he does a pod cast now.

I think he's on SiriusXM as well, though that may just be his pod cast.

Dang he was my favorite. I might have to get on this podcast fad I keep hearing about.

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Bernie was 81, cheered by youth.

Biden is 80 whatever, chastised by youth.

Good chat everyone. Let's see Bernie handle Israel, Ukraine, the economy, & MAGA all at once better than Biden.

Bernie was 81, cheered by youth.

Biden is 80 whatever, chastised by youth.

Good chat everyone. Let's see Bernie handle Israel, Ukraine, the economy, & MAGA all at once better than Biden.

Bringing Bernie up isn't the best thing to do considering if there was a younger progressive running people would have been probably more excited for them. Heck, look at Elizabeth Warren she had plenty of support until she tanked it by calling Bernie a secret sexist. Let's be real though, she's also old just not quite as old.

It's not a criticism of Bernie, but just his obnoxious bull-headed supporters, who don't even make up most of his supporters. It's possible to like Bernie Sanders while still thinking many progressives that supported him betrayed left-leaning people in the country and helped give us four years of Trump by abstaining in 2016, thus putting the viability of the planet for human life in further extreme jeopardy for reasons that are mostly inspired by financial self-interest. But it's not about resentment, but doing what we can to try to make for the best future possible at this point.

I'm sorry but this idea that Bernie supporters gave us Trump is just so tired and not supported by the evidence, as always gets pointed out, more Bernie supporters voted Hillary than Hillary supporters voted for Obama.

The problem Hillary had wasn't the Bernie supporters, the problem was Hillary herself, she was a deeply flawed candidate. She absolutely failed to even try to win voters in Michigan for example, instead focusing on Iowa. The blame on leftists only comes from the liberals refusing to own up to their own mistakes. The election could absolutely have been won with either a different candidate or actually trying to appeal to the midwest.

I don't want to reawaken this divisive discussion, although I realize I helped contribute. I will mention that Hillary supporters who switched to McCain were probably already moderates in 2008, making their switch more of one showing good faith that they were voting for who they thought would be the best president (presumably at least). They weren't votes casted or withheld in protest to Obama being the nominee. Regardless of where you fall on this tired debate that shouldn't even be a passing thought in an election with a Democratic incumbent, you're doing no favors by continuing to show more hostility toward the Democratic nominee than the real enemy, the party that is trying to rewrite the entire playbook for this country.

Good, then why are people complaining about Jon Stewarts show the other day? Because he absolutely didn't show more hostility to Biden than Trump, he made quite clear that Trump is obviously worse.

Good, then why are people complaining about Jon Stewarts show the other day? Because he absolutely didn't show more hostility to Biden than Trump, he made quite clear that Trump is obviously worse.

It's not pointless though, people get tired of media acting like issues are not actually issues. If you want to build trust you need to be open and honest about candidates rather than pretend everything is hunky dory.

But what 'media' is doing that exactly?

Go to NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, etc. over the past few months and you'll find plenty of articles about Biden's age. No one is being hunky dory about it.

But what 'media' is doing that exactly?

Go to NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, etc. over the past few months and you'll find plenty of articles about Biden's age. No one is being hunky dory about it.

Depends on the media to be honest, part of the problem with the likes of CNN is they're happy to talk about Biden's age without actually showing any context about how Trump has the same issues only worse. The Daily Show however didn't seem to have a problem with making that clear distinction yet the Daily Show provokes multiple threads here complaining about it and yet we never really see threads made when CNN make similar claims.

I honestly think the concern on here and elsewhere complaining about Jon Stewart are seriously overblown, he's said nothing that should be controversial and contrary to what I see on this board and elsewhere? He did not partake in "same thing both sides" nonsense.

Is Conan not a thing anymore? I don't stay up late enough to watch this stuff

Depends on the media to be honest, part of the problem with the likes of CNN is they're happy to talk about Biden's age without actually showing any context about how Trump has the same issues only worse.

Good, then why are people complaining about Jon Stewarts show the other day? Because he absolutely didn't show more hostility to Biden than Trump, he made quite clear that Trump is obviously worse.

Literally the next thing that anyone always says on the air after someone says "Biden is old" is "Trump is old also."

but the clip does reek of a lot of the internal criticism that started among Democrats once Bernie entered onto the scene.

Bernie was 81, cheered by youth.

What are you talking about? Hillary was the candidate in 2016 so Biden got criticism when he was Obama's vice president and Bernie did something or something?

I'm saying that before 2016, Democrats didn't have such a problem of factions getting so pissy at each other when primaries came around, but ever since then, that's been the norm for the party. I really don't think it's that hard to infer.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Gay marriage wasn't legal before 2015 so that correlates just as much. I believe the Overton window shifted enough that people were wanting more than Obamacare. Obama passing a half measure gave people a taste of what countries with better healthcare systems have.

None of that is really contradictory to what I'm saying.

The problem Democrats had was that one faction of the party, the one you're referring to in your post, got a lot more progressive really quickly in a way that was unsettling for the rest of the party

It's contradictory to Bernie being the cause.

So gay marriage legalization ruffled your jimmies?

He helped pave the way for a further party divide, whether that was his intention or not. It's very well possible that if it weren't him though, that it would have been a different further left candidate.

And no, I had absolutely no problem with it. I'm just acknowledging that some Democrats got used to society going further left with things like that and universal healthcare, such to the point that they couldn't stand any sign of stagnancy.

Depends on the media to be honest, part of the problem with the likes of CNN is they're happy to talk about Biden's age without actually showing any context about how Trump has the same issues only worse. The Daily Show however didn't seem to have a problem with making that clear distinction yet the Daily Show provokes multiple threads here complaining about it and yet we never really see threads made when CNN make similar claims.

I honestly think the concern on here and elsewhere complaining about Jon Stewart are seriously overblown, he's said nothing that should be controversial and contrary to what I see on this board and elsewhere? He did not partake in "same thing both sides" nonsense.

People are complaining about the Stewart clip because

1. Stewart is seen as different from mainstream media, thus people have higher expectations of what his content should deliver.

It very much read as 'same things both sides' to me. His specific comment about how it's not the end of the world for which candidate wins seems to completely disregard how his presidency ended up with three young conservative justices who have managed to complete change the future prospect of so many Americans.

What would even change if it was 7, 8, or 9 conservative justices on the Supreme Court?

That's nonsense. Their problem is Stewart criticizing Biden.

What would even change if it was 7, 8, or 9 conservative justices on the Supreme Court?