Current Events > Tucker Carlson: Moscow 'so much nicer than. any city in my country'

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Dark_Arbron posted...

Same thing with Fenriswolf. Kinda suspicious that they love China and hate America so much yet theyre clearly not actually living in China.

Yeah it's funny cuz they wouldn't have the freedom to post in a place like this. They don't realize the irony of posting here about the glory of a country they'd have no way to extol to virtues of outside of it.

If they hate their current state of things, they should do something about it, yet they always expect others to do what they should do. It's pretty bizarre and lacks any backbone

Please move there and never come back

Dragon56 posted...

I've been to Moscow. This wouldn't be a controversy if it were anyone but Tucker Carlson saying it. Very nice city.

Not at all surprised to see this from you.

Dragon56 posted...

I've been to Moscow. This wouldn't be a controversy if it were anyone but Tucker Carlson saying it. Very nice city.

The center of Moscow has some beautiful architecture. That's about it.

And to the repeated "name a city that's nicer" nonsense.

Plenty, because my measurement of what makes a place nice have size and population being among the first metrics to which every place I've lived beats Moscow out on. And that's the problem with that loaded argument because there is not one objective measurement of what makes a place nice and if you want to try to force people to use your metrics you show your hand.

Yet I will admit they are nicer based on my metrics, not claim that they are nicer than everywhere else and demand others prove me wrong.

Dragon should consider moving to Moscow if America is so much shittier. "Love it or leave it" is what I hear.

Dragon56 posted...

Feel free to give me an answer. Should be easy considering how "outrageous" my statement was.

Getting barked at by rabid political people can sometimes be fun to see how unhinge they get but they always say "No, its the ___ party who are unhinge" XD

String of thought:

It's also not "nicer" for certain members of populations to which the government is hostile towards, sort of like Florida. But I can totally not see considering that if one is in a position that that hostility does not attack or maybe considering it a positive as Tucker does.

Context is important.

Saying 'Moscow is a beautiful city with great public transport' after enjoying a city break is one thing.

When you are a spreader of pro-Russian, pro-Putin, propaganda, and have just come out of an interview where you debased yourself for the glorification of a brutal autocrat and war criminal . . . well, that's quite another.

ai123 posted...

Context is important.

Saying 'Moscow is a beautiful city with great public transport' after enjoying a city break is one thing.

When you are a spreader of pro-Russian, pro-Putin, propaganda, and have just come out of an interview where you debased yourself for the glorification of a brutal autocrat and war criminal . . . well, that's quite another.

Context is a commie word.

ai123 posted...

Context is important.

Saying 'Moscow is a beautiful city with great public transport' after enjoying a city break is one thing.

When you are a spreader of pro-Russian, pro-Putin, propaganda, and have just come out of an interview where you debased yourself for the glorification of a brutal autocrat and war criminal . . . well, that's quite another.

And felating Putin aside, we all know the metrics Tucker would be espousing.

If Reagan could see the republican party now

He should really think about checking out the lush beaches of Lake Karachay!

Cheetaluv posted...

Getting barked at by rabid political people can sometimes be fun to see how unhinge they get but they always say "No, its the ___ party who are unhinge" XD

Oh dear, someone with a history being backed up by someone else also with a history.

Gritty posted...

If Reagan could see the republican party now

He'd cry a tear of joy. It's gone exactly as planned.

Lmao, he's still simping for ruZZia even after putin humiliated him.

The irresponsible part of this is that someone is probably going to take the endorsement to visit Moscow and find themselves being used as a political prisoner on some bullshit charge. That to me is the real danger with this kind of shilling.

Putin wasnt impressed

https://www.thedailybeast.com/putin-says-he-was-not-impressed-by-tucker-carlson

Dark_Arbron posted...

Oh dear, someone with a history being backed up by someone else also with a history.

There's also only one party trying to overthrow elections and making it illegal for certain people to exist. And it ain't the one he's crying about being mean.

There's also an answer that he was happy to ignore which was better than the user he's defending "prove my subjective measurements that I'm using as an objective fact" deserved.

Nothing says patriotic American conservatism like "No one would disagree that Moscow is better than anywhere in America if someone they liked said it."

It's simply astounding how different conservative brains are, and how pliable they are to propaganda. Like, the one group you'd think would be the most pro-America, anti-Russia, is now slurping for them hardcore.

Righties are mad liberals have had success over the last few decades. Any success must be disparaged. And guys like Putin are supposed to be their new Reaganesque Shining City on a Hill.

Admitting to corruption by Putin would be a sin against their new myth.

Funny too considering post interview, Putin has shit on Tucker and Trump and Trump supporters

ai123 posted...

Context is important.

Saying 'Moscow is a beautiful city with great public transport' after enjoying a city break is one thing.

When you are a spreader of pro-Russian, pro-Putin, propaganda, and have just come out of an interview where you debased yourself for the glorification of a brutal autocrat and war criminal . . . well, that's quite another.

Yeah, I agree. But I've received a bunch of pushback on this.

Dragon56 posted...

Yeah, I agree. But I've received a bunch of pushback on this.

Agreeing with and then saying that Moscow is nicer than any American city isn't the same as saying Moscow is a beautiful city with great public transport.

Dragon56 posted...

Yeah, I agree. But I've received a bunch of pushback on this.

the key phrase there for you is
"When you are a spreader of pro-Russian, pro-Putin, propaganda . . . well, that's quite another."

But Moscow itself is nicer than any American city.

Remember everybody. This is what Dragon is getting pushback on, not merely for saying Moscow is nice.

And then demanding others prove him wrong as if "nicer" is an objective measurement.

GranAures posted...

This is what Dragon is getting pushback on

it's more than that
the previous thread has purged by now, but someone posted a list of like 5-6 other topics he had made all either bashing Ukraine or praising Russia

at that point it's a pattern

I have literally never praised Russian leadership. I have bashed Putin numerous times.
I did post articles regarding Zelensky, Ukraine and corruption but they came from reputable sources.
The world is not a black and white place.

I lived in Moscow for an entire summer and while I think there are reasons to prefer it over Chicago, New York, LA etc. they're in the same tier enough for Tucker's statement to be eye-roll inducing.

Dragon56 posted...

I have literally never praised Russian leadership. I have bashed Putin numerous times.
I did post articles regarding Zelensky, Ukraine and corruption but they came from reputable sources.
The world is not a black and white place.

You love Russia and hate Ukraine because you're a Trumper, in other words.