Current Events > Republicans have helped Russia all but win the Ukraine war, now what?

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ClayGuida
02/18/24 3:34:42 PM
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Republicans refuse to pass any sort of funding and Ukraine is basically DOA without our help, so at what point do we address the fact that Republicans are siding with Russia against our allies?

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SecretBase
02/18/24 3:45:24 PM
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Republicans can still defend themselves by just saying Ukraine isn't US taxpayers' responsibility and a year of aid hasn't won the war anyway.

They're not actually funding Russia themselves, so there's enough plausible deniability on that front.

The main issue with the argument is the hypocrisy of funding Israel instead, but they can just say Israel is likelier to defeat Hamas than Ukraine is to defeat Russia, and thus their favored form of funding has a greater probability of effectiveness.

At the end of the day it's a battle of who's going to get bored of funding the war first, and it's pretty unlikely Russia stops before a country overseas with a highly divided government filled with stingy sociopaths. This outcome was unfortunately fairly predictable.

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UndefeatedGOAT
02/18/24 3:46:41 PM
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Republicans didnt poke the sleeping bear
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Zikten
02/18/24 3:53:10 PM
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Biden should just give money to Ukraine anyway. He does it for Israel

Serious. He recently bypassed the senate and house and just handed money to Israel with no vote
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MabusIncarnate
02/18/24 4:16:44 PM
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Traitorist filth, along with everyone that supports them.

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Roachmeat
02/18/24 5:37:46 PM
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Zikten posted...
Biden should just give money to Ukraine anyway.

He recently bypassed the senate and house and just handed money to Israel with no vote.

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ClayGuida
02/18/24 5:39:21 PM
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It's probably contingent on the budget bills. They may allocate X amount of money for Administration discretion and he may have used it all.

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CADE_FOSTER
02/18/24 5:41:22 PM
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Tie all Israel funding to Ukraine funding boom
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ClayGuida
02/18/24 5:43:22 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
Tie all Israel funding to Ukraine funding boom
They did, then Republicans went home for 2 weeks.

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solosnake
02/18/24 5:44:05 PM
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Taxpayers should be able to decide where they want their money to go. Make it multiple choice if they want, but i shouldnt be forced to fund the israel war machine

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CADE_FOSTER
02/18/24 5:44:12 PM
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of course they want russia to win and when putin keeps going after ukraine
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DepreceV2
02/18/24 5:50:06 PM
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All this bullshit the Republicans are doing are why they are losing so many elections. It feels like they are losing seats constantly and that kind of pattern will likely continue through the election. The quiet Republicans are finally starting to see how embarrassing their party is. Even if those quiet people are conservatives, if the party can't even get the basic shit done then why even bother voting for them? Hell, they had a very favorable border bill for them that could have went through but they decide to fight against the very bill they wanted just to have something to scare people with/run on.

It's not even about liberals or progressives vs conservatives anymore. The quiet Republicans can't even make it that far in the argument which is crazy. What a trash tier party. All the Republicans now a days only fight for twitter engagement from the small percentage of the community that are terminally on twitter. There is a reason why none of that shit translates into any meaningful wins for the Republican party.

I'm talking like I'm a Republican when I'm not. It's somehow annoying to me how bad that party is being ran even though the Democrats are winning left and right. This shit is why I truly believe Biden will win the election easily right now. The vast majority of Independents will never vote for the current Republican party which they NEED to win. The only way they win is if Democrats don't show up to vote. That probably won't happen though because Trump will be on the ballet. Even if Biden is favored to win, since Trump will probably be on the ballot, most people will not decide to not vote. This isn't 2016. People know how big of a shit show Trump is and many people will do what they can to make sure he isn't in that seat again.

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CADE_FOSTER
02/18/24 5:51:03 PM
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The fact that we could destroy a huge enemy of America for only money and military equipment and republicans are like no thank you
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hockeybabe89
02/18/24 5:57:51 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
The fact that we could destroy a huge enemy of America for only money and military equipment and republicans are like no thank you
That's the thing. They think Russia is an ally of their America now. And right-wing media will tell you that Russia is clearing Ukraine of Nazis, while turning around and reminding us that Nazis have a right to free speech too.

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CADE_FOSTER
02/18/24 6:00:58 PM
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Guess we should invite Russia to destroy our nazi problem aswell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IxO9zfiQN0
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mybbqrules
02/18/24 6:06:13 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
Guess we should invite Russia to destroy our nazi problem aswell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IxO9zfiQN0
Gee, I wonder who they're going to vote for in November?

Such a mystery.

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UndefeatedGOAT
02/18/24 11:09:37 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
The fact that we could destroy a huge enemy of America for only money and military equipment and republicans are like no thank you

i dont think thats settled science

pissing off russia iran and china is bad
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Bass
02/18/24 11:12:44 PM
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Zikten posted...
Biden should just give money to Ukraine anyway. He does it for Israel


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CADE_FOSTER
02/18/24 11:25:24 PM
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UndefeatedGOAT posted...
i dont think thats settled science

pissing off russia iran and china is bad
meh when arent they pised
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UndefeatedGOAT
02/18/24 11:46:27 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
meh when arent they pised

lmao, true
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RamenNoodles
02/18/24 11:52:45 PM
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Im surprised Biden doesnt just say Look, if Trump was president, thered be no more Ukraine. Hed support and promote the death of thousands to millions all while being Putins cheerleader.

Remember the last presidential election a big thing was Republicans saying Democrats support Russia and stuff like that? Funny

Also its interesting that when Trump was President, Putin and Kim were both threatening to nuke the U.S, every other week and kill millions.
I think that mostly stopped
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UndefeatedGOAT
02/20/24 1:24:42 PM
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RamenNoodles posted...
Im surprised Biden doesnt just say Look, if Trump was president, thered be no more Ukraine. Hed support and promote the death of thousands to millions all while being Putins cheerleader.

Remember the last presidential election a big thing was Republicans saying Democrats support Russia and stuff like that? Funny

Also its interesting that when Trump was President, Putin and Kim were both threatening to nuke the U.S, every other week and kill millions.
I think that mostly stopped

wtf no one said that, in fact the one copium anyone can have about 2016 is, 'At least Trump didn't want to start a war with Russia like Hillary'
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Ubergeneral3
02/20/24 3:57:01 PM
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I mean dems are funding israel's genocide of gaza so neither side is better this time.

putin is a buchter I wish the worst for him. But this one time I don't care. I always admired him on some level because he opposed the west, so while I think russia is an aweful country the west is just as bad. If both fell it would be a good thing for the nations that have been under their heels for 200 years.

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aarrgus
02/20/24 4:02:49 PM
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Zikten posted...
Serious. He recently bypassed the senate and house and just handed money to Israel with no vote

People say this, but the only things I can ever find is when the Biden Admin approved the sale of tanks and ammo, not "handing money".....

Can I see a source?

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aarrgus
02/20/24 4:04:01 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
putin is a buchter I wish the worst for him. But this one time I don't care. I always admired him on some level because he opposed the west, so while I think russia is an aweful country the west is just as bad. If both fell it would be a good thing for the nations that have been under their heels for 200 years.

Same thing both sides, Russia edition...


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Naysaspace
02/20/24 4:06:38 PM
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Twump! Raaaaaa!

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xlr_big-coop
02/20/24 4:08:26 PM
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solosnake posted...
Taxpayers should be able to decide where they want their money to go. Make it multiple choice if they want, but i shouldnt be forced to fund the israel war machine
This. It's not our problem what the rest of the world does, the government should look for it's citizens first and foremost.

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Bandit_Keith
02/20/24 4:09:36 PM
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Zikten posted...
Biden should just give money to Ukraine anyway. He does it for Israel

Serious. He recently bypassed the senate and house and just handed money to Israel with no vote
He did. He bypassed congress by gifting "surplus" supplies to Greece, which is within his rights. Greece will then give their "surplus" weapons and vehicles to Ukraine.

A lot of what Biden has done goes untalked about because people want to complain, and the media is more than happy to stoke the flame of 'unpopular Biden' over and over. But he has been around a very long time, and knows how to game the system legally to get what we need done.

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DrizztLink
02/20/24 4:09:40 PM
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UndefeatedGOAT posted...
Republicans didnt poke the sleeping bear
What do you think that phrase means in this context?

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