Current Events > Texas judge says its perfectly fine to discriminate against a Black persons hair

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https://www.texastribune.org/2024/02/22/texas-crown-act-judge-barbers-hill/

Fuck Texas fuck republicans

Anyone here want to defend this?

nocturnal_traveler posted...

Anyone here want to defend this?

I will because I'm from somewhere every student in the country has to adhere to school dress and hair codes (we even have uniforms), so it's just normal for me.

But that's the only reason why.

It is admittedly ridiculous. I got made to shave my head once in high school. Why tf care about our hair when academic performance is what matters.

xGhostchantx posted...

I will because I'm from somewhere every student in the country has to adhere to school dress and hair codes (we even have uniforms), so it's just normal for me.

But that's the only reason why.

It is admittedly ridiculous. I got made to shave my head once in high school. Why tf care about our hair when academic performance is what matters.

I assume that was a private school? If so, I can see the technicality, even though it's still ridiculous. Barber Hill, however, is a public school. Only something gang related or scantily clad isn't allowed.

Idk if this is defending the decision

But this appears to have been a technicality. If I'm understanding correctly, CROWN Act does not cover issues of hair LENGTH, which is apparently the issue here.

While it's true you can't wear locks with short hair, thems the rules. Judge even encouraged them to change the legislation language to cover the length of hair.

So there's that.

Just let the kid go to fucking school ffs you racist pieces of shit.

ClayGuida posted...

Just let the kid go to fucking school ffs you racist pieces of shit.

it does seem as if they were really looking for any interpretation to keep the student from rocking his locs

Cruciferous posted...

Idk if this is defending the decision

But this appears to have been a technicality. If I'm understanding correctly, CROWN Act does not cover issues of hair LENGTH, which is apparently the issue here.

While it's true you can't wear locks with short hair, thems the rules. Judge even encouraged them to change the legislation language to cover the length of hair.

So there's that.

Yeah it's defending the ruling but I get what you're saying. But because these hair styles require long hair they shouldn't have to explicitly insert language pertaining to hair length. Of course this ruling basically means that they do have to now but this ruling is really just splitting hairs.

Unknown5uspect posted...

Of course this ruling basically means that they do have to now but this ruling is really just splitting hairs.

I see what u did ther

I hope they appeal, this is blatantly unconstitutional.

Cruciferous posted...

But this appears to have been a technicality. If I'm understanding correctly, CROWN Act does not cover issues of hair LENGTH, which is apparently the issue here.

It's definitely a bullshit loophole, especially with the judge stating that part should be covered.

...And here's the kicker, the school (and district) does have a part of the policy to allow Native American kids to have long hair.
But all other guys? Nope.

So yeah, it's vile shit all the way around. I'm sad this hasn't been on blasted more on national airwaves, the whole damn district needs to be embarrassed to hell.

nocturnal_traveler posted...

I assume that was a private school? If so, I can see the technicality, even though it's still ridiculous. Barber Hill, however, is a public school. Only something gang related or scantily clad isn't allowed.

Nah, we do it in public schools here too. Some of them are lax on hair but others not so much. Only difference between that and private here is that private school uniforms are basically monkey suits

I don't think a lot of Americans understand how different the rest of the world is about things like this

I don't like to be that guy, but Americans are thankless and take their liberties and lifestyle for granted.

Its entirely normal for schools to force uniform and dress codes on students, commonplace in places like Japan or Korea for students to be restricted from dyeing their hair to other natural colors or wearing certain styles. Ofc some of this has relaxed in recent years.

xGhostchantx posted...

Nah, we do it in public schools here too. Some of them are lax on hair but others not so much. Only difference between that and private here is that private school uniforms are basically monkey suits

Really? That sucks. I grew up in southern California public schools, so this is a shock to me.

Cruciferous posted...

it does seem as if they were really looking for any interpretation to keep the student from rocking his locs

It's not even that. Black people's hair becomes unruly when it's at medium length. Hence the need for locks. But too short, and you can't gather in to lock. It's not fair to ask black children to have to shave their hair all the way, every 1-2 weeks, but non-black students don't need to cut their hair until it's past their ears.

Cruciferous posted...

Its entirely normal for schools to force uniform and dress codes on students, commonplace in places like Japan or Korea for students to be restricted from dyeing their hair to other natural colors or wearing certain styles. Ofc some of this has relaxed in recent years.

Obviously don't understand how black ppl's hair works.

Cruciferous posted...

I don't think a lot of Americans understand how different the rest of the world is about things like this

I don't like to be that guy, but Americans are thankless and take their liberties and lifestyle for granted.

Its entirely normal for schools to force uniform and dress codes on students, commonplace in places like Japan or Korea for students to be restricted from dyeing their hair to other natural colors or wearing certain styles. Ofc some of this has relaxed in recent years.

Shut the fuck up.

here come the cemen who don't understand that places with few black people would obviously not understand

and that places like this school also don't CARE

But pointing that out apparently makes me a bad person

The irony of a country that prides itself on freedom and liberty forcing everyone into conformity shouldn't be lost on anyone here either. It's a slap in the face.

Unknown5uspect posted...

The irony of a country that prides itself on freedom and liberty forcing everyone into conformity shouldn't be lost on anyone here either. It's a slap in the face.

The US has completely shit the bed on freedom and liberty pretty much since day 1. Like literally every aspect of American nationalism, its exceptionalist propaganda. People are just waking up to it now.

Cruciferous posted...

here come the cemen who don't understand that places with few black people would obviously not understand

and that places like this school also don't CARE

But pointing that out apparently makes me a bad person

You really should stop posting this topic, you're making a fool of yourself.

nocturnal_traveler posted...

Really? That sucks. I grew up in southern California public schools, so this is a shock to me.

I dunno if you have it over there but we have 'lunch box shaming' too lol. Schools will literally single children out if their parents put like, a little bit of cake for a treat in their lunchbox, and that includes taking that piece of food or whatever away from them. It's ridiculous lol.

(we don't have cafeterias and schools don't provide food, so it's up to the parents)

Unknown5uspect posted...

The irony of a country that prides itself on freedom and liberty forcing everyone into conformity shouldn't be lost on anyone here either. It's a slap in the face.

That's been a joke since before the founding, with the "freedom" to own slaves and the "liberty" to burn witches being a stain on the colonies.

There's been a lot of improvement since then, but Republicans want to undo all that progress.

Are there actually idiots on this board that doesn't understand, that having to braid a black person's natural hair, then unbraid it, cut it, shave it, remoisturize it, then re-braid that person's hair is a fucking annoying-ass time-consuming ordeal?

lydiaquayle posted...

Are there actually idiots on this board that doesn't understand, that having to braid a black person's natural hair, then unbraid it, cut it, then re-braid that person's hair is a fucking annoying-ass ordeal?

well for starters I don't think anyone in this topic is saying or implying otherwise

But yes, there are.

Cruciferous posted...

here come the cemen who don't understand that places with few black people would obviously not understand

and that places like this school also don't CARE

But pointing that out apparently makes me a bad person

You're a bad person because you read yet another story about a black person being oppressed by systemic racism and your response is some really stupid shit about Americans being thankless for their liberties because other countries with different history and different practices do things differently.

Once again, shut the fuck up.

Cruciferous posted...

well for starters I don't think anyone in this topic is saying or implying otherwise

There are some in this topic that think that a uniform hair code that ignores what certain racial groups have to deal with, is perfectly fine, though.

TheLiarParadox posted...

You're a bad person because you read yet another story about a black person being oppressed by systemic racism and your response is some really stupid shit about Americans being thankless for their liberties because other countries with different history and different practices do things differently.

Once again, shut the fuck up.

This is an incredibly strange topic for Bok to pull out the "BE GRATEFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE STARVING KIDS IN AFRICA" style bullshit.

TheLiarParadox posted...

You're a bad person because you read yet another story about a black person being oppressed by systemic racism and your response is some really stupid shit about Americans being thankless for their liberties because other countries with different history and different practices do things differently.

Once again, shut the fuck up.

No, I was separately pointing out that Americans take this stuff for granted.

I believe it is a good thing that we even have any protections in place. Didn't say otherwise.

Its good. Americans just suck at realizing it... which was in response to another thing said in this topic, not the main issue.

xGhostchantx posted...

I dunno if you have it over there but we have 'lunch box shaming' too lol. Schools will literally single children out if their parents put like, a little bit of cake for a treat in their lunchbox, and that includes taking that piece of food or whatever away from them. It's ridiculous lol.

(we don't have cafeterias and schools don't provide food, so it's up to the parents)

Damn! That's another shocker for me.

Cruciferous posted...

here come the cemen who don't understand that places with few black people would obviously not understand

This is a topic about a US State where there are plenty of black people. Perhaps the misunderstanding is on the clown making comparisons to unrelated countries with unrelated demographic makeups.

TheOtherMike posted...

This is a topic about the US where there are plenty of black people. Perhaps the misunderstanding is on the clown making comparisons to unrelated countries with unrelated demographic makeups.

Especially since that person is comparing it to places like China Korea and Japan, where freedom of expression isn't a thing, and obedience to authority is literally a cultural value for them.

That school needs to change its name.

lydiaquayle posted...

freedom of expression isn't a thing, and obedience to authority is literally a cultural value for them.

LOLOLOLOL

you read thst in a 1960s textbook?
you are all just proving me right as far as I'm concerned

keep up thf phony outrage lmaoooo

It's always weird to me the specific hills people pick to die on.

Wish that loser never came back to CE tbh

Cruciferous is reminding me of Brainy Smurf from the original cartoon series due to how much of an insufferable know it all hes currently being in this topic. Bro, just let it go since this is wrong no matter how you try to handwave it away.

Cruciferous posted...

I don't think a lot of Americans understand how different the rest of the world is about things like this

I don't like to be that guy, but Americans are thankless and take their liberties and lifestyle for granted.

Its entirely normal for schools to force uniform and dress codes on students, commonplace in places like Japan or Korea for students to be restricted from dyeing their hair to other natural colors or wearing certain styles. Ofc some of this has relaxed in recent years.

Just because other places have fucking stupid rules, doesn't mean America should follow. Long hair length isn't an issue unless long hair would cause a dangerous situation (i.e. working with certain machinery).

YellowSUV posted...

Just because other places have fucking stupid rules, doesn't mean American should follow. Long hair length isn't an issue unless long hair would cause a dangerous situation (i.e. working with certain machinery).

Absolutely.
I was responding to the guy who said "i can defend it but only because i'm from a place where this is normal. but it's still shit."

Which I can understand. And I wanted to point out that Americans don't fucking know what the rest of the world is like, and as a result take their lifestyle for granted.

But ALSO, the TX ruling was stupid and the rest of the world being worse doesn't change that.

Trying to better myself. Why is it discriminatory against a black persons hair if the policy is prohibiting all males?

YellowSUV posted...

Just because other places have fucking stupid rules, doesn't mean America should follow. Long hair length isn't an issue unless long hair would cause a dangerous situation (i.e. working with certain machinery).

That's not even the important part.
It's perfectly understandable to think that universal hair codes might be acceptable. Then you have to consider that different races have different types of hair and how they're affected by particular length standards.

Black people's hair is literally a big hassle if they're forced to cut it in a certain way or certain length, and I honestly think many white people in this country don't understand that.

Godbe-Bryant posted...

Why is it discriminatory against a black persons hair if the policy is prohibiting all males?

their hair is inherently different and including them in sweeping policy meant for people without that hair is discriminatory, if only because it doesn't take their inherent hair qualities into account. of course, theres lots of other reasons.

Godbe-Bryant posted...

Trying to better myself. Why is it discriminatory against a black persons hair if the policy is prohibiting all males?

Black people's hair becomes unruly when it's at medium length. Hence the need for locks. But too short, and you can't gather in to lock. It's not fair to ask black children to have to shave their hair all the way, every 1-2 weeks, but non-black students don't need to cut their hair until it's past their ears.

Having to braid a black person's natural hair, then unbraid it, cut it, shave it, remoisturize it, then re-braid that person's hair is a fucking annoying-ass time-consuming ordeal.

Remember, how black people often get criticized for having NAPPY hair? Now imagine having to spend hours fixing your 'nappy' hair without having to braid it? It's like trying to fix a cowlick that's 10x firmer. Also, shaving a black person's hair potentially hurts them too. It literally causes bleeding damage to them. Black people get ingrown hairs IN THEIR SCALP. So they literally need to go to a barber who specializes in black hair.

In a way, it's a result of "color-blind" policies that were advertised as non-discriminatory.

It just ends up discriminating by ignoring.