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Jen0125 posted...

This isn't a movie. This is a real life genocide. Stop trolling. You're saying really disgusting things.

Israel isnt trying to exterminate Palestinians. They just want security.

Devil_May_Cry posted...

Israel isnt trying to exterminate Palestinians. They just want security.

They aren't trying to. They ARE.

I had to block and ignore that guy. I'm not interested in anything he has to say.

He's an admitted troll literally said he's pretending to be a leftist caricature in order to garner support for Trump... Nothing but smoothbrain takes anyway you're better off this way

he's warned anyways

MeatiestMeatus posted...

He's an admitted troll literally said he's pretending to be a leftist caricature in order to garner support for Trump... Nothing but smoothbrain takes anyway you're better off this way

Not even a leftist caricature because leftists don't act like that

Ya I never felt like his antics were genuine. His admission only cemented what I'd already suspected

Can't imagine my trolling shtick being defending literal genocide but I'm not a POS

Yeah it's like people are afraid to criticize Israel because they don't want to be labeled antisemitic so they just make dumbass excuses for what's happening over there

You can condemn the actions of Israel's government and military without condemning them on whole as a people, just as you can condemn the actions of Hamas and Iran-backed proxies without condemning all Palestinians or Arabic people.

Why's it so hard for some people to wrap their heads around that?

Devil_May_Cry posted...

if your family was in danger of being blown up by rockets and you had the opportunity to kill the ones targeting your family but there are innocent people around them would you take them out still?

Depends how many innocent people. One or two, and a fair chance that they wouldn't be hurt? I'd probably go for it. A dozen, and a high chance that I'd injure/kill at least 4-5? I might still go for it, but I'd expect to be held accountable for that recklessness by people who were able to view the situation more impartially. A crowd of thousands, with the only way to maybe get the handful bad guys being to indiscriminately open fire on the crowd and crush them with tanks? Absolutely not, and anyone that would is a mass-murdering psychopath who should be shot dead immediately before they have a chance to act further on their murderous impulses.

Collateral damage is not a binary concept. In every instance, the scope of the damage must be measured against whatever gain is being used to justify it. It's not something you can make blanket statements about (with the exception of "you can't make blanket statements about it," which is technically itself a blanket statement).

Of course, that's also irrelevant to this particular incident. This wasn't collateral damage. This was just plain old mass murder.

MeatiestMeatus posted...

just as you can condemn the actions of Hamas and Iran-backed proxies without condemning all Palestinians or Arabic people.

I think that's part of the issue: a great many people defending Israel's genocidal crusade don't make a distinction between Hamas and the rest of the Palestinian/Arabic people, and therefore presume the same generalization of those criticizing Israel. And when they blame all Arabic people for Hamas' actions, that makes them a lot more comfortable with Israel's genocidal crusade.

Of course, this makes them idiotic, racist pieces of shit, but this shouldn't surprise anyone.

A real example of recent collateral damage: Ukraine tried to drone strike an oil refinery in Russia and accidentally hit a residential building. THAT is collateral damage. Collateral damage isn't the purposeful slaughter of tens of thousands of civilians.

Yeah, that's the other thing: To call this "collateral damage" assumes it's an accident, which is pretty hopelessly gullible when so many Israeli officials have gone on record to say they'd like to see all Palestinians eradicated. Hunting down Hamas militants is just an excuse they're hiding behind. Killing civilians is what they actually want, and they're doing as much of that as they can get away with before they lose the support of the rest of the world (which is precisely why people in the rest of the world who don't like genocide want to withdraw that support).