Current Events > What if Vegeta... *Dragon Ball Z spoilers, lol*

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...stayed dead?

For whatever reason, perhaps the wording of the wish or Dende not wanting to bring back the guy who literally slaughtered an entire village of helpless Namekians, Vegeta doesn't get revived alongside everybody else on the planet after Frieza kills him -- he just stays dead, and his corpse gets exploded along with Namek.

What would happen then? I imagine the other Z Fighters wouldn't be very motivated to use a wish to bring him back, except maybe Goku, but he's off world so can't voice his opinion there. Besides, every other wish is accounted for (bring back Krillin / Tien / Chiaotzu / Yamcha, make a new Namek, send the Namekians to New Namek) so there's no wriggle room to fit him in anyway.

Obviously, this means Trunks can't come back in time to warn everybody about the Androids, because Trunks doesn't exist. Does Bulma come back in time instead? Or does she send Gohan before he gets killed? Does she just settle for Yamcha and have a kid with him, and that kid travels back in time? If Bulma comes back, that means that unless a LOT has changed in the future, nobody's going to one-shot Frieza and King Cold on Earth. It's not hard to believe that at least one of the Z Fighters ends up dead again while stalling until Goku arrives.

Then there's the issue of Android 19 and Dr. Gero. This is when Goku's heart disease hits, and without Vegeta appearing to show off his new Super Saiyan hair, it's hard to say whether the other Z Fighters could defeat 19 -- he looked dumb, but once he got ahold of some energy he got fairly strong.

Hard to say what happens with Cell. By the time he absorbed 17 and 18, he was stronger than a Kami-fused Piccolo in his imperfect form, and Piccolo at that time was the strongest of the Z Fighters' main roster. 16 could hold Cell down, but he'd still get at 17, and once Cell becomes semi-perfect, he's stronger than the competition; only Vegeta and Trunks could defeat him at this point after their stint in the HTC, and neither of them exist right now. Of course, Goku and Gohan would have probably been able to enter the Chamber a day early since it wouldn't be occupied for those first 24 hours, and just show up to kill Cell. End of arc -- no Cell Games, no second death for Goku, no (temporary) baton passing to Gohan.

(Unless, of course, Goku's desire to fight a strong opponent ends up with him allowing Cell to power up anyway, but I doubt Goku would do that if he knew it meant another life (18's) would have to be lost in the process.)

I don't know if the Buu arc happens at all because Vegeta won't be able to screw up Shin's plan by still having darkness in his heart, and Majin Vegeta doesn't happen to help Buu's seal break faster.

I always like all these dbz what if ideas. The anime should explore some of these. I heard in Super they introduced a multiverse

It goes the same way it does in the original timeline, but without Trunks. Assuming the theory that Gohan went to his death in a hopeless battle with the androids because he knew it could trigger Trunks to go super saiyan, he may not do so and instead remain in hiding. But since his potential was doomed in that timeline, its likely he eventually dies. Cell wakes up, absorbs the androids, destroys whats left of Earth and its all over.

Its possible the destruction of Earth would also destroy Buus cocoon, but even if it doesnt, it would be floating in space and Babidi would have difficulty obtaining enough energy to unlock it.

If we include Beerus, he wakes up at some point and kills Cell, Dabura and Babidi. Then U7 is in even worse shape than ever and is eventually erased.

Thank you Vegeta. The cause of and solution to all Dragonballs problems.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Thank you Vegeta. The cause of and solution to all Dragonballs problems.

Nah, that is Goku.

Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...

Nah, that is Goku.

They divide the workload. Piccolos done his share too.

No Goku and Piccolo would take over the world, preventing anything else to happen?

Foppe posted...

No Goku and Piccolo would take over the world, preventing anything else to happen?

With little tea and just rice for all!

Or bad driving lessons.

Gohan might be able to go back in time and essentially take Trunks's place. But if he dies, either Bulma goes back or the androids find her.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Assuming the theory that Gohan went to his death in a hopeless battle with the androids because he knew it could trigger Trunks to go super saiyan

This is a theory? It makes no sense. No point in triggering a new super saiyan to replace an already experienced one.

Guide posted...

Gohan might be able to go back in time and essentially take Trunks's place. But if he dies, either Bulma goes back or the androids find her.

This is a theory? It makes no sense. No point in triggering a new super saiyan to replace an already experienced one.

People make theories that Vegeta and Goku want to make out.

Stay away from the silly fan comments.

Guide posted...

Gohan might be able to go back in time and essentially take Trunks's place. But if he dies, either Bulma goes back or the androids find her.

This is a theory? It makes no sense. No point in triggering a new super saiyan to replace an already experienced one.

I forgot that theory only applies to the OVA version of events, where Trunks wasnt a super saiyan yet. In the manga, where Trunks was already a super saiyan, youre right that it wouldnt make sense - it would have made more sense to walk away from that fight and instead train properly together.

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