Current Events > TIL adultery is a misdemeanor in NY, but that soon might change

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Baron_Ox
03/23/24 1:39:53 PM
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Cheating on ones spouse may be a betrayal of the heart, but in New York State, its long been a criminal offense.

But after nearly 120 years, a law against adultery a misdemeanor in New York could be scratched off the books. State lawmakers are advancing a bill this session to toss the rarely enforced section of the state penal code that since 1907 has defined adultery as a Class B misdemeanor punishable by up to 90 days in jail and a $500 fine.

Assemblyman Charles Lavine (D), who sponsored the bill, said the law is out of step with modern society. He noted earlier this month to Politico that since the crime is only a B misdemeanor, those charged with it dont receive a jury trial, leaving it entirely up to a judge to determine their conviction and sentence.

It doesnt serve as a deterrent, Lavine told Politico. Its a celebration of someones concept of their own morality.

Laws criminalizing adultery are on the books in a handful of other states but are rarely enforced. In most cases, they were put on the books at a time when adultery was among the only ways to obtain a divorce, according to Carol Faulkner, a history professor at the University of Syracuse who studies 19th-century America, women and social movements and authored the 2019 book, Unfaithful: Love, Adultery, and Marriage Reform in Nineteenth-Century America.

After the American Revolution, New York State continued to be much more aligned with English laws, where it remained hard to get a divorce, Faulkner said. In the 19th century, only New York State and South Carolina had restrictions on divorce.

In South Carolina, you couldnt get a divorce at all, Faulkner said. In New York State, if couples wanted to divorce, theyd sometimes have to create an adultery claim.

Faulkner said as divorce laws were liberalized across the country and included new grounds for a claim, like ill-temperament or alienation of affection, New Yorks bar for was so high adultery that couples would sometime manufacture cheating claims to be able to divorce.

New York lawmakers first tried to strike the anti-adultery law 60 years ago when a legislative commission tried to cull archaic laws and modernize the state penal code. Lavine, who could not immediately be reached for comment Friday, is not aware of any opposition to his bill.

The law has been enforced roughly a dozen times since 1907, when it first ensnared a wealthy railroad contractor who was an investor in the Dreamland amusement park at Coney Island and his mistress, a shopgirl from Chicago, according to an archive of the story in the New York Times.

At the time, the scandalous Patrick H. Hirsch had left his wife, Elizabeth, to live with Ruby Yeargin; Hirsch moved the young woman and her mother from Chicago and began living with them in New York. Hirsch also moved his young son by Elizabeth to live with him and Yeargin, telling the boy she was his mother.

Elizabeth Hirsch put private detectives on the trail before bringing her claims to the police, who arrested her husband and Yeargin.

Faulkner said New York repealing its adultery law signals a changing view of marriage.

When we had Obergefell v. Hodges, the U.S. Supreme Court decision, the slogan was love is love, Faulkner said of the landmark case that legalized same-sex marriage. Marriage should be about love, consenting adults and voluntary relationships. And if someone in a marriage decides they love someone else, in many ways we dont condemn that.

If theres no longer love in a marriage, Faulkner said, it should be okay and legal to end it. To that end, the elder Yeargin may have been on to something back in 1907: she defended her daughters reputation, telling police, according to the Times, that Hirsch loved her daughter better than he did his own wife.

People who love each other should be married, Faulkner said, and people who dont love each other shouldnt be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/03/23/new-york-adultery-law-repeal/

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DrizztLink
03/23/24 1:41:35 PM
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Charge Trump with it then take it off the books post-sentencing.

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Baron_Ox
03/23/24 9:15:54 PM
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I would not be mad at that

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Revelation34
03/28/24 2:35:09 AM
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They only exist because of religion so they should all be removed.

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bigtiggie23
03/28/24 2:40:17 AM
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Reading the topic title I thought it was going to be changed into a felony.

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SpawnShadow
03/28/24 2:48:57 AM
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bigtiggie23 posted...
Reading the topic title I thought it was going to be changed into a felony.
No, that's probably Texas.
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Smashingpmkns
03/28/24 2:50:38 AM
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Imagine literally going to horny jail

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Sufferedphoenix
03/28/24 3:45:33 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Imagine literally going to horny jail

I do thi k it should be grounds for a divorce that goes In favor of the other party. I know a girl who's husband not only cheated on her he got her pregnant then had the audacity to try and convince her to let him move the side chick and them be in a poly relationship ship

She tried to get a divorce and they told her to try marriage counseling first. She ain't got the money and he doesn't want to.

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ForsakenHermit
03/28/24 3:49:56 AM
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Fornication is a misdemeanor in Utah.

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
03/28/24 5:07:54 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

In North Carolina, it's technically illegal to perform oral sex, a Class 1 felony (4-10 months to 2 years in prison).

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Sufferedphoenix
03/28/24 5:30:14 AM
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
In North Carolina, it's technically illegal to perform oral sex, a Class 1 felony (4-10 months to 2 years in prison).
.yeah no body is gonna get arrested over that though

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
03/28/24 8:00:11 AM
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Sufferedphoenix posted...
.yeah no body is gonna get arrested over that though
You never know. It's also illegal for unmarried people to have sex in hotel rooms.

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Sufferedphoenix
03/28/24 9:01:50 AM
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
You never know. It's also illegal for unmarried people to have sex in hotel rooms.
Trust me it doesn't happen. If it happens you pissed that cop off.

Plus how they going to enforce it unless you are doing it somewhere people can see which is a whole other crime.

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StarSpangled
03/29/24 8:36:50 PM
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3rd world shit

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Kradek
03/31/24 5:11:19 PM
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Sufferedphoenix posted...
I know a girl who's husband not only cheated on her he got her pregnant then had the audacity to try and convince her to let him move the side chick and them be in a poly relationship ship

Sounds like he's a fan of Jobless Reincarnation.

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Venixon
03/31/24 5:46:31 PM
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Yeah I figured it was just some old law people forgot to nix.

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