Board 8 > B8 NSO Crew Plays Every NSO Game - Part 3

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wallmasterz
03/24/24 3:50:13 PM
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Hello all! The NSO completion dream continues for ctes, mzero, wallz, ZeroSignal and friends. If youd like to formally join the project, just say so =)

Heres the intro from thread 1:

On October 10, 2013, Torbjrn Thor Pedersen left his job, girlfriend, and family behind in Denmark to embark on an epic journey. His goal? To visit every country in the world without flying. Thor has just returned home, having completed his journey after a decade.

Hi, Im Wallz. I like video games and setting ambitious goals Ill almost certainly never follow through to completion. In honor of Thor Pedersens impressive feat, today I embark on a significantly more impressive quest to play and, where applicable, beat/complete every game offered via Nintendo Switch Online in the NA region. This includes replaying games Ive played before. My realistic goal is to at least spend some quality time playing every one of these titles. I suppose theres a chance some titles will get delisted, at which point those games will no longer count towards my goal.

I am hoping we have 4-5 more years before NSO is decommissioned which would mean getting through a couple titles a week on average should be a winning pace. This is under the seemingly safe assumption Nintendo will continue to drip feed a few titles a while longer before no new titles are added. I doubt I can sustain such a pace, especially since many older games will require a lot of practice, but lets hope this fools errand is fun nonetheless. Also, Im ignoring those SP versions of games, obviously.

Also feel free to chat here about games youre playing on NSO, relevant news, or just complain about the lack of GameCube and DS games.

Below are the total number of games currently available for the NA/PAL regions:

NES games: 71
SNES games: 60
N64 games: 30
Sega Genesis/Mega Drive games: 44
GB/GBC games: 21
GBA games: 14
Total games: 240

Date the project started: August 3rd, 2023
Games added since then: 25

The above does not count SP versions of games, which are not considered part of the project.

Wallz Game Ranking

Super Mario Bros.
Kirbys Dream Land
Doomsday Warrior
Balloon Fight
Ice Hockey
Donkey Kong Jr.
Mario Bros.
Donkey Kong
Ice Climber
Devil World
Donkey Kong 3
Baseball
Clu Clu Land

13/240

MZero Game Ranking

Super Mario World
Breath of Fire
Super Mario Bros.
Pokemon Trading Card Game
Kirby's Dream Land
Magical Drop II
Tetris
Adventures of Lolo
Yoshi's Story
Ristar
Pinball
Balloon Fight
Ice Hockey
The Legend of Zelda
Donkey Kong 3
Gradius
Excitebike
Ice Climber
Mario Bros.
Devil's World
Baseball
Clu Clu Land
Donkey Kong Jr.
Donkey Kong
Tecmo Bowl
Tennis
Soccer
Super Dodge Ball

28/240

Ctes Game Ranking

Super Mario World
Super Mario Bros. 3
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Mario Bros.
Breath of Fire
Pokemon Trading Card Game
Tetris
The Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
Adventures of Lolo
Baloon Fight
Metroid
Super Mario Bros. 2
Ristar
Gradius
Sin and Punishment
Kirby's Dream Land
Super Dodge Ball
Dr. Mario
Magical Drop II
Donkey Kong Jr.
Mario Bros
Donkey Kong
Ice Hockey
Ice Climber
Wrecking Crew
Devil World
Clu Clu Land
Soccer
Pro Wrestling
Donkey Kong 3
Tennis
Excitebike
Tecmo Bowl
Pinball
Baseball

36/240

Raven/ZeroSignal Game Ranking
(although Raven has not committed to playing everything)

Super Mario Bros 3
Super Mario World
Super Punch-Out!!
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 2
Comix Zone
Street Fighter II: Special Championship Edition
Donkey Kong Country
Joe and Mac 2
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Jr
Dr. Mario
Kirby's Avalanche
Kirby's Dream Land
Wario's Woods
Gradius
Magical Drop II
Rival Turf
Donkey Kong 3
Virtua Fighter 2
Pinball
Tennis
Soccer
NES Open Tournament Golf
Baseball

25/240

Hobo is almost finished playing all N64 games on the service and will provide a ranking once done.

B8 NSO High Scores

Balloon Fight - 346,200 (Ctes)
Donkey Kong - 107400 (Jcgamer)
Donkey Kong Jr. - 120800 (Ctes)
Donkey Kong 3 - 110520 (MZero)
Dr. Mario - 160600 (Ctes)
Ice Climber - 90,080 (Ctes)
Mario Bros. - 208,530 (Ctes)
Pinball - 138,570 (Jcgamer)
Tetris - 144029 (Chang)

List of games by release:
https://www.backloggd.com/u/wallmasterz/list/every-nso-game/

Games available compared to previous similar services:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AE3f3h-HV_c4yFqzBuraBkYPn3_XiOzymtEMlRh0AB0/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to Mr_Crispy for intially putting together a list of NES games.

Thanks to Ctes for helping put this intro post together.

Also:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b334973.jpg

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ZeroSignal
03/24/24 4:41:01 PM
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Tagalicious

Admittedly fell off thanks to IRL and Souls playing. DID start playing Blast Corps for nostalgic reasons though; game is still as fun as it was when I first played it 27 years ago

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ctesjbuvf
03/24/24 4:43:38 PM
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List was beginning to look long but 36 is not exactly promising lol.

Feel good about it though.

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wallmasterz
03/24/24 4:48:08 PM
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We just gotta pick up the pace. Ask yourself, what would Wallz do?

For example we get creative. When I lose tennis tonight i can say I beat it, I just got the worst ending. Perfect!

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ctesjbuvf
03/24/24 4:49:16 PM
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How will you ever catch up if I pick up the pace ;-)

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wallmasterz
03/24/24 6:29:55 PM
#6:


Just voted all of them will. Someone really said some of them will? How can you lack confidence in ctes like that?

ZeroSignal posted...
Tagalicious

Admittedly fell off thanks to IRL and Souls playing. DID start playing Blast Corps for nostalgic reasons though; game is still as fun as it was when I first played it 27 years ago

Youre still ahead of me, at least! Glad to hear youre having fun with your Blast Corps replay, I played it for the first time as part of Rare Replay and thought it was fantastic.

ctesjbuvf posted...
List was beginning to look long but 36 is not exactly promising lol.

Feel good about it though.

Yeah ctes you are doing well. 36 is good imo considering you have been playing a lot of other games. And I should be pushing you more by my own play!

The lists are getting a bit long yeah. Maybe we just post a few games ahead and behind whatever were ranking? I could also keep some ranking lists on Backloggd for you guys if youd like because lets face it, Drake is right.

ctesjbuvf posted...
How will you ever catch up if I pick up the pace ;-)

Im about to leave you goombas eating my dust.

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wallmasterz
03/24/24 6:30:36 PM
#7:


Going to start looking at the games by year to help us track our progress in chunks and hopefully motivate us by helping us work towards smaller goals.

1983 - 4 games

Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Jr.
Mario Bros.
Baseball

First year of games. Once Raven beats Mario Bros., we will all be done with 1983!

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wallmasterz
03/24/24 7:07:56 PM
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1984 - 7 games

and the name(s) of who still needs to play it

Tennis - Wallz
Pinball - Wallz
Donkey Kong 3 - n/a
Devil World - Raven
Clu Clu Land - Raven
Excitebike - Wallz, Raven
Vs. Excitebike - Everyone

Stopping here for now but I think we should all work on any games were missing here soon, I will work on my missing games and we could all tackle Vs. Excitebike together if we want to play through a game at the same time for the first time in a while.

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ctesjbuvf
03/24/24 7:27:51 PM
#9:


Isn't Vs. Excitebike for the single player purpose the exact same game

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wallmasterz
03/24/24 9:09:33 PM
#10:


Some quick preliminary research suggests there are minor differences but its largely the same.

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ctesjbuvf
03/24/24 9:33:04 PM
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But I mean sure I'll knock that out if any of you do, it'll probably just be a quick setting. Point was that you would essentially be playing the same game twice in a row basically.

We can also play Xevious together if you're up for it, that's a 1984 game going by famicom release and also shouldn't be too long.

Edit: All those would be by Famicom release since it's 1984, so I am actually not sure how that one is not there. Guess similar to how you had Mother 1 by mid 10s and not 89?

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ctesjbuvf
03/24/24 9:40:42 PM
#12:


Rebirth will still be a while despite me being 75 hours into it. But I'll knock something short out if for the sake of playing the something at the same time, I'm off work mostly for Easter this week. Just thought you might want to not play Excitebike twice in a row (I know I would not like that). Xevious seems like a fine answer if going chronological.

Just uhh, you start first in case plans change again lol.


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MZero
03/24/24 10:25:36 PM
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wallmasterz posted...
Just voted all of them will. Someone really said some of them will? How can you lack confidence in ctes like that?

But "all of them will" means I beat Metroid

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MZero
03/25/24 1:30:05 AM
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I did a thing. Maybe this will work better than the long lists lol

https://tiermaker.com/create/switch-online-games-16976740

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d2d767fa.jpg

I'll clean up the order of the pictures later on, but not sure if I want to go by date added or release date. I do want to group them by console though for simplicity

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/24 6:00:17 AM
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More. Lists.

It is a good idea though!

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wallmasterz
03/25/24 8:10:18 AM
#16:


ctesjbuvf posted...
But I mean sure I'll knock that out if any of you do, it'll probably just be a quick setting. Point was that you would essentially be playing the same game twice in a row basically.

We can also play Xevious together if you're up for it, that's a 1984 game going by famicom release and also shouldn't be too long.

Edit: All those would be by Famicom release since it's 1984, so I am actually not sure how that one is not there. Guess similar to how you had Mother 1 by mid 10s and not 89?

I might just do Excitebike and Vs. Excitebike back to back due to short length but its a good point.

And yes thats exactly what happened with Xevious. There are some flaws with the db Backloggd uses. Xevious has a separate page for the Famicom and NES release. Most games do not. I went ahead and added the Famicom version of Xevious to the list. Order doesnt have to be that serious but I do like taking first appearance on either platform.

MZero posted...
But "all of them will" means I beat Metroid

I believe in you!

MZero posted...
I did a thing. Maybe this will work better than the long lists lol

https://tiermaker.com/create/switch-online-games-16976740

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d2d767fa.jpg

I'll clean up the order of the pictures later on, but not sure if I want to go by date added or release date. I do want to group them by console though for simplicity

Yeah I agree this is a good idea. Its your list but if you want date added you can sort the release date list to user order

ctesjbuvf posted...
More. Lists.

It is a good idea though!

B8 List Crew Makes a List of Every NSO Game - Part 3

Now if youll excuse me I need to make a list of all these lists.

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wallmasterz
03/25/24 2:28:11 PM
#17:


What level AI did you all do for Tennis?

And yes unless Tennis takes me absolutely forever, Im going to play Xevious later this week for sure.

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/24 2:37:56 PM
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I honestly don't recall

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wallmasterz
03/25/24 2:40:33 PM
#19:


Mzero how do I add an F tier on tiermaker?

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/24 2:44:36 PM
#20:


Don't you love it when someone smashes a tennis ball into your head and the referee yells IN as if you didn't just break your cranium?

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wallmasterz
03/25/24 2:47:07 PM
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LOL. I havent actually started Tennis yet I am doing that later today. But I hope its better than an F. Even Baseball I would put in the D tier.

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/24 5:04:25 PM
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It doesn't belong all the way up there.

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/24 6:06:58 PM
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Ctes has completed Doomsday Warrior

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/24 6:12:44 PM
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Now that I've said the good things about the game... jesus christ it's bad. I'm not sure anything really works. I thought it was at least short but I was only halfway when I thought I was done. Sledge might be the worst character or the game is just screwed against you but the shadow of myself damaged me way less than anything else. It's annoying getting 10 hits in a row with this trap system and then getting hit like once and we're back to stalemate. Even my super attacks or whatever this game calls them weren't that strong compared to standard enemy hits. I guess I will give the game that it's fun how part of the title is kinda fourth wall breaking with how it feels playing it.

We can trash talk early 1980 games but at least those were somewhat impressive at the time or something. This has less excuse being so bad.

Ctes Game Ranking

Super Mario World
Super Mario Bros. 3
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Mario Bros.
Breath of Fire
Pokemon Trading Card Game
Tetris
The Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
Adventures of Lolo
Baloon Fight
Metroid
Super Mario Bros. 2
Ristar
Gradius
Sin and Punishment
Kirby's Dream Land
Super Dodge Ball
Dr. Mario
Magical Drop II
Donkey Kong Jr.
Mario Bros
Donkey Kong
Ice Hockey
Ice Climber
Wrecking Crew
Devil World
Clu Clu Land
Soccer
Pro Wrestling
Donkey Kong 3
Tennis
Excitebike
Tecmo Bowl
Pinball
Baseball
Doomsday Warrior

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/24 6:14:24 PM
#25:


If this sold you on fighting games Wallz I think you might have an upcoming favorite genre.

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MZero
03/25/24 11:32:19 PM
#26:


wallmasterz posted...
Mzero how do I add an F tier on tiermaker?

Click the little gear next to D tier and click "Add a row below"

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03/25/24 11:36:37 PM
#27:


wallmasterz posted...
What level AI did you all do for Tennis?

I did 3 I think

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03/26/24 4:34:21 AM
#28:


MZero has completed Doomsday Warrior

I was feeling left out. Yeah this game kinda sucks lol I don't hate it as much as ctes apparently, but it's really bad. Not early NES bad, but bad. Throws are broken as heck, but that was the only way I was able to win so it's a double-edged sword I guess. But the fact that you can whiff an air attack and throw instantly is hilariously unbalanced, and they do so much damage. The best strategy for enemies without a projectile seems to be to just turtle and poke them when they get close. Aggro doesn't work at all because pretty much every attack has invincibility frames (even throwing a fireball, yeesh). Ashura and the last guy were so busted, but luckily abusing the throw system was enough to win. It only took me an hour and a half to beat normal with Grimmrock or whatever his name is. Oh yeah, the blob guy is broken too imo

wallz please play a real fighting game

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fa09bb65.jpg

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ctesjbuvf
03/26/24 6:13:45 AM
#29:


Yeah it's hard to directly compare but it's much less impressive than those early NES games imo.

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MZero
03/26/24 6:18:06 AM
#30:


I understand the logic, but I've never been a "good for its time" kind of guy. Its time is over lol I pretty much just rank everything based on how much I like it right now

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ctesjbuvf
03/26/24 6:35:11 AM
#31:


Yeah but it makes the game less frustrating to me I think. I honestly would rather try another match of Tennis though.

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ctesjbuvf
03/26/24 7:19:17 AM
#32:


Oh and if 3 is the middle level in Tennis very good chance I picked that too.

For a long time it's all about getting timing of just hitting the ball right though.

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wallmasterz
03/26/24 7:40:15 AM
#33:


I played Tennis and actually won on my first go but it was level 1 lol. I think Ill do another match at level 3.

I also played Pinball. I considered myself done after clearing the bonus stage once and scoring over 100k. Jcgamers high score still stands though barely!

Will do a proper update soon but Im back on track. Will likely play Xevious today or tomorrow.

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ctesjbuvf
03/26/24 8:32:56 AM
#34:


Nice knocking those two out.

I will jump in on Xevious and Vs. Excitebike when you do those, assuming that is also still in the next batch.

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ctesjbuvf
03/26/24 8:37:42 AM
#35:


Actually just to correct a list^TM, the famicom version of Vs. Excitebike didn't release for another 4 years.

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wallmasterz
03/26/24 8:55:24 AM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Actually just to correct a list^TM, the famicom version of Vs. Excitebike didn't release for another 4 years.

Good call. I see a FDS release date of December 9, 1988 which is the same date as Ninja Gaiden. Id probably prefer knocking it out after the other 88 titles

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03/26/24 9:02:56 PM
#37:


We all know sports titles are generally nothing to write home about, and these early NES sports games have not been appealing parts of this project. With that said tennis was a pleasant surprise. It can be frustrating at times but I had fun with it and can see myself playing again on higher difficulties. Maybe Im a victim of low expectations here, but I enjoyed it.

Pinball isnt anything special for a pinball game but I really like pinball. I can see revisiting it from time to time as its a great pick up and play title for shorter sessions.

Wallz Game Ranking

Super Mario Bros.
Kirbys Dream Land
Doomsday Warrior
Balloon Fight
Ice Hockey
Donkey Kong Jr.
Tennis
Pinball
Mario Bros.
Donkey Kong
Ice Climber
Devil World
Donkey Kong 3
Baseball
Clu Clu Land

15/240

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03/26/24 9:09:42 PM
#38:


Gotta add the more recent ones actually!

B8 NSO High Scores

Balloon Fight - 346,200 (Ctes)
Clu Clu Land - 111370 (Ctes)
Devil World - 212800 (Ctes)
Donkey Kong - 107400 (Jcgamer)
Donkey Kong Jr. - 120800 (Ctes)
Donkey Kong 3 - 110520 (MZero)
Dr. Mario - 160600 (Ctes)
Ice Climber - 90,080 (Ctes)
Mario Bros. - 208,530 (Ctes)
Pinball - 138,570 (Jcgamer)
Tetris - 144029 (Chang)

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wallmasterz
03/26/24 9:47:30 PM
#39:


https://youtu.be/mF1niV0rW3c

Three days away. Thats close enough for me. Time to update The List (tm)

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03/26/24 10:34:24 PM
#40:


I created a spreadsheet that lets me plug in our lists and generates a combined ranking. For example, Super Mario Bros. is

1st out of 15 for wallz (0.067)
3rd out of 29 for MZero (0.103)
4th out of 37 for ctes (0.108)

Divided by three gives us 0.093, good for fourth place!

And now, I present our aggregated list:

Super Mario World
Super Mario Bros. 3
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Mario Bros.
Breath of Fire
Pokemon Trading Card Game
Tetris
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
Adventures of Lolo
Yoshi's Story
Kirby's Dream Land
Metroid
Balloon Fight
The Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Bros. 2
Ristar
Magical Drop II
Sin and Punishment
Ice Hockey
Gradius
Dr. Mario
Doomsday Warrior
Donkey Kong Jr.
Pinball
Mario Bros.
Ice Climber
Wrecking Crew
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong 3
Super Dodge Ball
Tennis
Excitebike
Devil World
Pro Wrestling
Clu Clu Land
Soccer
Baseball
Tecmo Bowl

#Lists #DrakeMeme

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ctesjbuvf
03/27/24 6:39:05 AM
#41:


You can't bring Metroid down on that list if you don't play it. You saying.

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wallmasterz
03/27/24 6:40:19 AM
#42:


Not until mzero has it as 241 of 241 on his list

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03/27/24 7:00:30 AM
#43:


The irony is based on what I've played so far Metroid is probably in C tier!

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ctesjbuvf
03/27/24 12:19:40 PM
#44:


Ctes has completed Xevious.

It's alright, but not good. It's better on arcade as far as I recall, makes sense, NES could run less stuff on the screen. Controls fine, as some point basically only missiles can destroy stuff that's a bit of a shame.

Ctes Game Ranking

Super Mario World
Super Mario Bros. 3
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Mario Bros.
Breath of Fire
Pokemon Trading Card Game
Tetris
The Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
Adventures of Lolo
Baloon Fight
Metroid
Super Mario Bros. 2
Ristar
Gradius
Sin and Punishment
Kirby's Dream Land
Super Dodge Ball
Dr. Mario
Magical Drop II
Donkey Kong Jr.
Mario Bros
Donkey Kong
Ice Hockey
Ice Climber
Wrecking Crew
Devil World
Xevious
Clu Clu Land
Soccer
Pro Wrestling
Donkey Kong 3
Tennis
Excitebike
Tecmo Bowl
Pinball
Baseball
Doomsday Warrior

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ctesjbuvf
03/27/24 1:58:40 PM
#45:


Oh high score was 206430

Game loops back to stage 7 after 16 stages and I got to 9 the second time so thats definitely completed.

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jcgamer107
03/28/24 10:57:09 AM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
B8 NSO High Scores

Tetris - 144029 (Chang)
This is an impressive score - I did attempts for like an hour and couldn't even get half that. Will probably have another crack at it soon.

Also, a ranking of the games I've played (79/261) since I haven't posted one yet:

10/10
Super Mario 64
GoldenEye 007
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Kirby's Dream Land
Mario Party 2
Mario Party 3
Mario Party
WarioWare, Inc: Mega Microgames!
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 2
Super Mario Bros 3
Super Mario World
Mario Kart 64
Tetris
Mario Golf
Pokmon Stadium
Pokmon Stadium 2
Super Mario Land 2
Mario Tennis

9/10
Gunstar Heroes
Double Dragon
Donkey Kong
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Yoshi's Story
Super Metroid

8/10
Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap
Pokmon Snap
Banjo-Kazooie
Street Fighter II: Champion Edition
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
1080 Snowboarding
Star Fox 64
Sonic Spinball
NES Open Tournament Golf
Xevious

7/10
Pilotwings 64
Jet Force Gemini
Wild Guns
Donkey Kong Country
Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
Super Mario Kart
Punch-Out
Nightshade
Dr. Mario
Ice Hockey
(VS) Excitebike
Legend of Zelda

6/10
River City Ransom
F-Zero X
Kirby's Adventure
WinBack: Covert Operations
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Kid Icarus
Excitebike 64
F-Zero
Star Fox
Pinball
Tennis
Baseball
SMB Lost Levels
Ghosts 'n Goblins
Mappy-Land

5/10
Tecmo Bowl
Altered Beast
Metroid
Balloon Fight
Clu Clu Land
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Virtua Fighter 2
Soccer
Mario Bros
Ice Climber
Dig Dug
City Connection
Yoshi

4/10
Wrecking Crew
Donkey Kong Jr
Donkey Kong 3

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ctesjbuvf
03/28/24 11:29:46 AM
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We just got swept lmao.

Were they all on NSO? Then it would truly be a sweep.

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wallmasterz
03/28/24 11:45:15 AM
#48:


jcgamer107 posted...
Also, a ranking of the games I've played (79/261) since I haven't posted one yet:

dayum

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jcgamer107
03/28/24 12:00:28 PM
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Probably all but 10 or so I've played on NSO, I just included everything I've played

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ctesjbuvf
03/28/24 2:29:37 PM
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City Connection sucks.

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