Current Events > Streamer intentionally flashes images on broadcast to trigger fans epilepsy

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GiftedACIII posted...

you insist on me acknowledging you as a person with emotions rather than just a common douchebag/trol

You're free to acknowledge me however you want, I just can't guarantee any sort of reciprocity on my end. I'm trying to not see you as a hater or creep because you too are a person with emotions and not just a "douchebag/troll", but if you're set on seeing me that way, then that's really it and there's no nuance or wiggle room left. I don't really weigh out morality/immorality in the way that you do and people are accustomed to do online. If I'm 10pts douchebag, Dr Disrespect is 12pts douchebag, it really is literal nonsense to me. I didn't know I was in direct competition with the epilepsy user to you, and I am concerned about that tunnel vision. I don't know how to reach out to you with that last message you posted, but I assume there's no way. It's on you though.

Thats kinda wild. Docs always built his brand around being an abrasive hardass but he wasnt blatantly toxic like that. Guess times must be tough over in youtube jail.

Master_Kazuya posted...

You're free to acknowledge me however you want, I just can't guarantee any sort of reciprocity on my end. I'm trying to not see you as a hater or creep because you too are a person with emotions and not just a "douchebag/troll", but if you're set on seeing me that way, then that's really it and there's no nuance or wiggle room left. I don't really weigh out morality/immorality in the way that you do and people are accustomed to do online. If I'm 10pts douchebag, Dr Disrespect is 12pts douchebag, it really is literal nonsense to me. I didn't know I was in direct competition with the epilepsy user to you, and I am concerned about that tunnel vision. I don't know how to reach out to you with that last message you posted, but I assume there's no way. It's on you though.

Hey, you're the one that's trying to play yourself as the victim and trying to justify why you don't have empathy with others but insist I have empathy for you. Why do you think you can convince me to emphasize with you when you've shown you can't emphasize with others yourself? And I like how you then claim it's on me, once again proving that you're self-absorbed and can never take the fault for your own actions. Just like your relationship problems I'm sure. Yeah, if you put your problems above others then you don't weigh out morality the same way others do. That's on your end.

GiftedACIII posted...

Hey, you're the one that's trying to play yourself as the victim and trying to justify why you don't have empathy with others but insist I have empathy for you. Why do you think you can convince me to emphasize with you when you've shown you can't emphasize with others yourself? And I like how you then claim it's on me, once again proving that you're self-absorbed and can never take the fault for your own actions. Just like your relationship problems I'm sure. Yeah, if you put your problems above others then you don't weigh out morality the same way others do. That's on your end.

victim, empathy, convince, yourself, self-absorbed, fault, relationship problems, morality, your end

The main thing that's weird to me is that you can't just see me as a douchebag for this topic, you have to follow me around to let me know. If it was just this topic, I'd be more inclined to question the message instead of the messenger and self-reflect like you want me to, but the consistency of it weighs the scale more towards the messenger. It's why extreme moralism is so attractive but also doesn't work. If you're toxic to show someone why they're toxic, it doesn't work. Make all the alts you want to keep finding me lol

Also the word is empathize, not emphasize hahahahaha

Master_Kazuya posted...

victim, empathy, convince, yourself, self-absorbed, fault, relationship problems, morality, your end

The main thing that's weird to me is that you can't just see me as a douchebag for this topic, you have to follow me around to let me know. If it was just this topic, I'd be more inclined to question the message instead of the messenger and self-reflect like you want me to, but the consistency of it weighs the scale more towards the messenger. It's why extreme moralism is so attractive but also doesn't work. If you're toxic to show someone why they're toxic, it doesn't work. Make all the alts you want to keep finding me lol

I feel like there is some kind of mental block happening or something.. you didnt care for trouble of a person being epileptic and said its their fault cos the chance of flashing colours is possible for twitch viewers but you missed the part where it was done for no good reason and epilepsy is inconsistent it can increase happening chance cos of flashing lights its not 100% just to be sure.
have you not heard of tough love?
you got called out because it was an uncalled for comment and the background of it is cos you have made troublesome comments before but you probably would be called out either way.

Master_Kazuya posted...

victim, empathy, convince, yourself, self-absorbed, fault, relationship problems, morality, your end

The main thing that's weird to me is that you can't just see me as a douchebag for this topic, you have to follow me around to let me know. If it was just this topic, I'd be more inclined to question the message instead of the messenger and self-reflect like you want me to, but the consistency of it weighs the scale more towards the messenger. It's why extreme moralism is so attractive but also doesn't work. If you're toxic to show someone why they're toxic, it doesn't work. Make all the alts you want to keep finding me lol

Also the word is empathize, not emphasize hahahahaha

Follow you around? It's been months since I last posted about you. You've gone into that shitposter phase where you think everyone who calls out is the same person? And it does work, you just don't want to admit it.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emphasize

GiftedACIII posted...

It's been months since I last posted about you.

Wait, you actually keep track of how often you post about me? Holy shit

super_felicia posted...

but you probably would be called out either way.

I understood the intent of this topic was to cause outrage, and I watched it myself to make my own judgment call and I didn't see it as the worst possible scenario. I have a feeling that we're gonna go in circles if I actually engage with the discussion. I addressed your points in reply to the other guy earlier; I don't know if you saw them or not.

My boys give me tough love, this is soft hate lol

Master_Kazuya posted...

Wait, you actually keep track of how often you post about me? Holy shit

Ah, so you were talking bullshit huh? I'm just guesstimating myself but I have an incredibly good memory.

GiftedACIII posted...

Ah, so you were talking bullshit huh? I'm just guesstimating myself but I have an incredibly good memory.

Ok man, whatever you need. No clue what this means lol. I just know that I've been like "huh, this person is like actually following my development (or lack thereof please forgive me daddy)" on this board for a few different people, I think 4. I know of two usernames, there was the other prison guy earlier who pops in every now and then to make that point, I forgot about your name specifically, but once you replied to me here, your name did seem familiar.

To be fair, there are also users that follow me in good ways, like they connect with me across topics, and I don't mind that, if anything it's cool that there's people that reach out in good ways instead of bad ways.

Master_Kazuya posted...

I watched it myself to make my own judgment call and I didn't see it as the worst possible scenario

How can you not understand that intentionally doing something that can trigger seizures in someone is extremely fucked up?

Master_Kazuya posted...

Ok man, whatever you need. No clue what this means lol. I just know that I've been like "huh, this person is like actually following my development (or lack thereof please forgive me daddy)" on this board for a few different people, I think 4. I know of two usernames, there was the other prison guy earlier who pops in every now and then to make that point, I forgot about your name specifically, but once you replied to me here, your name did seem familiar.

It's crazy how you don't realize that speaks a lot more on your end than theirs. Like I said, it's not hard to tag shitposters for what they are. Like Pepys Monster, I don't recall ever interacting with him and I have him tagged as pines over lost teenage GF. I've always seen you as a lite version of him tbh.

Dr. Disrespect being a piece of shit? Shocking news, truly shocking.

GATTJT posted...

How can you not understand that intentionally doing something that can trigger seizures in someone is extremely fucked up?

I do think that's fucked up. To you, if someone who said "fuck" during a stream and had a (non sub non mod) commenter saying "hey my kids are watching, can you not swear" to one of the biggest Twitch streamers, and they respond going "FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK", how would that be?

Is he a dick? Yeah probably. Is it his space to be a dick? Kinda yeah also. Maybe he could've been like "you shouldn't watch me if you have epilepsy", or ban that person. But he's literally there to act how he wants. I don't think it has to be taken as seriously as you want me to take it.

It's just an aggressive way to tell that person that "this stream isnt for you".

I like the sentiment of taking health issues seriously, but to fully push it in this black and white sort of way is not right to me.

GiftedACIII posted...

It's crazy how you don't realize that speaks a lot more on your end than theirs. Like I said, it's not hard to tag shitposters for what they are. Like Pepys Monster, I don't recall ever interacting with him and I have him tagged as pines over lost teenage GF. I've always seen you as a lite version of him tbh.

Cool, if you need me as part of your cool CE manga, that's fine. I'm an actual person though so there's no actual writers, you may lose content if you keep pushing it.

Master_Kazuya posted...

I don't think it has to be taken as seriously as you want me to take it.

Do you KNOW what seizures are?

GiftedACIII posted...

No, I just have you tagged as miserable piner, no gene pool because of your topics where you complain about women and not being in the reproductive pool. You thinking I would need to have my own hangups to notice the issues you've been vocal about is just your own personal hangup talking, if this whole spiel doesn't make it obvious lol. Interesting you mention bringing others down since that's the reason I even responded to you. I wouldn't have alerted you about your issues if you were a decent user otherwise.

this has billy madison speech energy

u tore him apart

Master_Kazuya posted...

Cool, if you need me as part of your cool CE manga, that's fine. I'm an actual person though so there's no actual writers, you may lose content if you keep pushing it.

You keep repeating actual person as if that's special about you and doesn't apply to every user in the world.

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GATTJT posted...

Do you KNOW what seizures are?

Dude if you are PRONE to seizures, you will AVOID situations that prone you to seizures. I really wish to leave it on that statement alone, but I have literally worked with people that are prone to seizures and there is like strict protocol on what to avoid and what to look for. We had to restrict one guy(client) from buying anything with caffeine because it could add to his seizures.

I don't know this 1 random commenter's situation but I do know it's a random comment on a huge streamer on a platform that streams games when games have seizure warnings (that shit you mash A on before the game loads) and was cognizant enough to experience the first seizure-inducing-experience to be able to type that response.

GiftedACIII posted...

You keep repeating actual person as if that's special about you and doesn't apply to every user in the world.

Yes, you're an actual person too, which is why I'm engaging.

So he's a much bigger clown than what he looks like

Master_Kazuya posted...

Dude if you are PRONE to seizures, you will AVOID situations that prone you to seizures. I really wish to leave it on that statement alone, but I have literally worked with people that are prone to seizures and there is like strict protocol on what to avoid and what to look for. We had to restrict one guy from buying anything with caffeine because it could add to his seizures.

I don't know this 1 random commenter's situation but I do know it's a random comment on a huge streamer on a platform that streams games when games have seizure warnings (that shit you mash A on before the game loads) and was cognizant enough to experience the first seizure-inducing-experience to be able to type that response.

None of this absolves the streamer of trying to trigger that person's seizures. Why is it on that person to avoid watching someone they enjoy watching play a game? Full responsibility is on the dickhead that flashed potentially seizure-inducing images on their screen for ALMOST A MINUTE. And this was AFTER the viewer donated money.

Master_Kazuya posted...

Dude if you are PRONE to seizures, you will AVOID situations that prone you to seizures.

1. Random gaming streams aren't situations prone to seizures. Especially since it doesn't seem like he's put a warning for anyone that enters his stream.
2. By your logic if you're prone to being called out for your numerous issues in life you should avoid situations that prone you to it.

Master_Kazuya posted...

Yes, you're an actual person too, which is why I'm engaging.

Yet you don't realize how in real life, continuing to purposely engage in something that could trigger epilepsy if someone's made you aware of it doesn't fly and will likely have you held accountable if an attack happens because of it.

What a douchebag

Master_Kazuya posted...

Idk man. Idk what your relationship status is but if you were devoid or had issues in your own romantic life, you following me from topic to topic to dig this into me would be telling of your own dynamics with other people. I personally don't really tie romantic status with someone's being, I mean even Hitler had a girlfriend. I sometimes treat CE as my 'emotional gloryhole' or whatever, where I can just post the things that have no tie to anything. I find it actually really creepy to have you (or others) notice my posts and bring up other things I've said or problems I use CE to vent about. It's my own understanding that we can/should just let people post whatever the fuck they want, but some people take it too far because it actually validates some people to bring others down in a long-term sorta way.

I have no problem shit talking someone in one thread and then the next thread, the previous argument doesn't matter and it's a blank slate. It's different if they come at me for previous topics, I'm gonna respond back like I'm doing now. I don't know what you want/get out of me but whatever it is, it probably is to a similar weight to my romantic hangups, maybe more, because I don't follow the girls that reject me.

This posts reads like youve made up your own rules of engagement and now get frustrated that youre the only one following them.

Sputnik1337 posted...

Thats kinda wild. Docs always built his brand around being an abrasive hardass but he wasnt blatantly toxic like that. Guess times must be tough over in youtube jail.

Probably desperate for money due to how much he invested into that fps nft game a few years ago.

GATTJT posted...

None of this absolves the streamer of trying to trigger that person's seizures. Why is it on that person to avoid watching someone they enjoy watching play a game? Full responsibility is on the dickhead that flashed potentially seizure-inducing images on their screen for ALMOST A MINUTE. And this was AFTER the viewer donated money.

Whys it on the streamer to make sure everyone enjoys, or continuously enjoys them? Like maybe it'd be one thing if someone was like "hey i enjoy your stream, I have epilepsy" and he plays flashing lights (which is still his (dick) right to do). But he's doing something he routinely does and he's being told to not do it on his total control platform which is what Twitch is. You can get banned for any reason on a stream no matter how moral or fair or black or white it is. I don't see why it's his obligation to take care of people's needs. Why does he have to?

GiftedACIII posted...

By your logic if you're prone to being called out for your numerous issues in life you should avoid situations that prone you to it.

Uh, "prone" means something different than what you think it does. You're ruining your own CE manga series here, slowly. You still want me though, I can feel it :). And don't worry, I want to give it to you. You just gotta understand me, because we need each other for content. I feel special that you follow me out of hate. Well just tonight since I'll be creeped out tomorrow morning, but for you, "months" between replies :).

Glob posted...

This posts reads like youve made up your own rules of engagement and now get frustrated that youre the only one following them.

I guess my main 'rule' is that I find it unsettling when people follow me around to hate. I'm definitely not the only one following them. If anything, every single person on this board (you included) except for 4 people follow them. What are your rules of engagement?

Master_Kazuya posted...

I guess my main 'rule' is that I find it unsettling when people follow me around to hate. I'm definitely not the only one following them. If anything, every single person on this board except for 4 people follow them. What are your rules of engagement?

On here? Mostly I just follow the actual rules. I wouldnt say theres a whole lot beyond that. If I find somebody irritating or boring, Ill block them. Makes coming to the boards much better IMO. Maybe try that if theres people routinely giving you grief?

Master_Kazuya posted...

Like maybe it'd be one thing if someone was like "hey i enjoy your stream, I have epilepsy" and he plays flashing lights (which is still his (dick) right to do).

That's exactly what fucking happened, dude. Unless you think he habitually flashes potentially seizure-inducing images for a minute at a time. Please stop downplaying someone intentionally trying to harm another person, it puts you on the wrong side of this conversation.

Master_Kazuya posted...

Uh, "prone" means something different than what you think it does. You're ruining your own CE manga series here, slowly. You still want me though, I can feel it :). And don't worry, I want to give it to you. You just gotta understand me, because we need each other for content. I feel special that you follow me out of hate. Well just tonight since I'll be creeped out tomorrow morning, but for you, "months" between replies :).

you are genuinely coming off like you are having an episode

Thats a quick way to kill your pathetic streaming aspirations

Master_Kazuya posted...

I guess my main 'rule' is that I find it unsettling when people follow me around to hate

its a community space. no one is following u around, its a forum. remembering u isnt the same as following u

are u ok?

GATTJT posted...

That's exactly what fucking happened, dude. Unless you think he habitually flashes potentially seizure-inducing images for a minute at a time. Please stop downplaying someone intentionally trying to harm another person, it puts you on the wrong side of this conversation.

I get that being morally right is important nowadays, but sometimes grey meets grey and you don't have to be a demon or an angel. Also, technically, he flashed the image first and then got told not to do it.

Glob posted...

On here? Mostly I just follow the actual rules. I wouldnt say theres a whole lot beyond that. If I find somebody irritating or boring, Ill block them. Makes coming to the boards much better IMO. Maybe try that if theres people routinely giving you grief?

There are some people I've blocked that were easy to decide to block because they're just annoying, but I think I'm interested in people's actual obsession with me. It's not quite causing me grief yet, so I'm just letting it play out until I want to or not.

Dungeater posted...

you are genuinely coming off like you are having an episode

I am, it's season 4 ep 7, if you're not following. Do you care that I'm ok or is it funny to point out someone who's not ok?

Dungeater posted...

its a community space. no one is following u around, its a forum. remembering u isnt the same as following u

are u ok?

Lets not gaslight

Master_Kazuya posted...

Uh, "prone" means something different than what you think it does. You're ruining your own CE manga series here, slowly. You still want me though, I can feel it :). And don't worry, I want to give it to you. You just gotta understand me, because we need each other for content. I feel special that you follow me out of hate. Well just tonight since I'll be creeped out tomorrow morning, but for you, "months" between replies :).

Given that you have a victim complex thinking you have a hatedom with people following you clearly you think you are.

Master_Kazuya posted...

I get that being morally right is important nowadays, but sometimes grey meets grey and you don't have to be a demon or an angel. Also, technically, he flashed the image first and then got told not to do it.

There is no grey area here, it's objectively wrong to try to intentionally harm someone else outside of situations like self defense, full stop. And here is the order of events:

Streamer flashes an image
Viewer DONATES MONEY AND POLITELY ASKS HIM TO AVOID DOING THAT
Streamer INTENTIONALLY DOES IT OVER AND OVER FOR ALMOST A MINUTE

GiftedACIII posted...

Given that you have a victim complex thinking you have a hatedom with people following you clearly you think you are.

I'll let your next "following reply" of me prove this otherwise. You'll find me later on and I'm curious to see if you have the strength to hold back hating me. Victim complex would mean I think everyone is victimizing me, but I can only think of 4 people from CE.

Can't wait to be right :)

Streamer that cheated on his wife and plays FPS slop for a living is a shitty person, shocker

GATTJT posted...

There is no grey area here, it's objectively wrong to try to intentionally harm someone else outside of situations like self defense, full stop. And here is the order of events:

Streamer flashes an image
Viewer DONATES MONEY AND POLITELY ASKS HIM TO AVOID DOING THAT
Streamer INTENTIONALLY DOES IT OVER AND OVER FOR ALMOST A MINUTE

It's Twitch, it's his platform to be however he wants and to attract/repulse any viewers he wants. You don't have to agree or like it.

If you have a crusade, go against Twitch.

Master_Kazuya posted...

I'll let your next "following reply" of me prove this otherwise. You'll find me later on and I'm curious to see if you have the strength to hold back hating me. Victim complex would mean I think everyone is victimizing me, but I can only think of 4 people from CE.

Can't wait to be right :)

I mean, if I see you in another topic making horrible posts like in here I'll address you there too. I'm sure others would be addressing you as well. I'm not going to reply to any random posts of yours bringing up your problems. If you make a post I really agree with, I'll agree with that too. That's how forums work.

Master_Kazuya posted...

I am, it's season 4 ep 7, if you're not following. Do you care that I'm ok or is it funny to point out someone who's not ok?

neither

LonelyStoner posted...

Lets not gaslight

???

he's literally posting like reggie rn

GiftedACIII posted...

I mean, if I see you in another topic making horrible posts like in here I'll address you there too. I'm sure others would be addressing you as well. I'm not going to reply to any random posts of yours bringing up your problems. If you make a post I really agree with, I'll agree with that too. That's how forums work.

Holy shit we're on the same page on how forums work.

1 down, 3 to go.

Master_Kazuya posted...

Holy shit we're on the same page on how forums work.

1 down, 3 to go.

Given that you're having a multi-page meltdown over it I don't think you're on that page.

GiftedACIII posted...

Given that you're having a multi-page meltdown over it I don't think you're on that page.

You're cute :)

You should tally up our post totals in this topic.

Master_Kazuya posted...

It's Twitch, it's his platform to be however he wants

My guy, you don't have a right to intentionally try to harm someone on any internet platform

Master_Kazuya posted...

You're cute :)

You should tally up our post totals in this topic.

Do you really think you wouldn't easily have the most in the topic? I don't even need to count to know that.