Board 8 > Toy Story Mafia Topic 1: A Poisoned Waterhole

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changmas
04/13/24 10:29:24 PM
#52:


cool ulti we'll revisit that on day 4, maybe day 3 if and only if scum doesn't use an extra kill before then

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changmas
04/13/24 10:32:12 PM
#55:


huh ulti might be scum this time

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changmas
04/13/24 10:38:33 PM
#57:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Man are you in for a rude awakening if you try being dumb with me this game.

Am I? We already know who the dayvig is so it's not like you could kill me even if you wanted to. Unless...

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Obellisk
04/13/24 10:49:11 PM
#60:


Corrik7 posted...
##shoot: igcd


wallmasterz posted...
IGCD has died. He was

Stinky Pete - SCUM Role Cop Godfather


See you day 2 good sir. See you day 2.

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changmas
04/13/24 11:08:42 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I can get anyone lynched. If youre town I very highly suggest leaving me alone while I cook.

Id like to see you try

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Enchantress
04/13/24 11:19:08 PM
#62:


Lmao. Sometimes you lose faith in Corrik, think he's washed, and then he comes in and immediately shoots scum. Outstanding.

The meme I'm searching for, I can't say, because there's pre-school mafia players present.

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Kirby321
04/13/24 11:41:31 PM
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What a shot! I can't wait to see scum chat after this game lmfao

changmas posted...
huh ulti might be scum this time

Nah, cocky Ulti is usually town Ulti. I don't he had this much bravado as scum until the entire town was turning against him, going off of Tekken Mafia. And I would know! I was on his scum team that game lol

Usually, Ulti being bold, brash, and obnoxious is, I feel, usually his town tell. If he's more low key, he's likelier to be scum and will instantly fold once general consensus starts to shift against him.

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PunishedBen
04/13/24 11:48:40 PM
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Well that was pretty baller. I will point out, corrik has said multiple times in the past that if he rolled vig he would immediately shoot IGCD, as he believes IGCD is the optimal shot regardless of IGCD's alignment

That IS Town Corrik's perspective of course. So I do think Corrik does this as town and there's no reason for him to do the same idea as scum. So I don't think Corrik actually scum read IGCD there but I'm glad it turned out the way it did

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PunishedBen
04/13/24 11:51:50 PM
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wallmasterz posted...
IGCD has died. He was

The scum team can only perform their standard night kill on even-numbered nights.

Interesting stuff here. We're looking at two scum teams? This is how it worked in Tekken mafia right?


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PunishedBen
04/13/24 11:54:13 PM
#66:


changmas posted...
so uh might as well get the elephant out of the room

knightz is 100% town confirmed in my book
Why do you say this and then proceed to spend the rest of the page questioning everything Knightz does
changmas posted...
you call it taking advantage, i call it testing his chops

changmas posted...
(two posts later)

this sure makes it look like you did!


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Kirby321
04/14/24 12:03:14 AM
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My Bendar says that he is town this game. What a stellar entrance!

The even nights only condition for scum nightkills is indeed strange. But IGCD explicitly used the SCUM alignment, which would be weird if there were two scum teams. I'm more willing to believe a possible third-party killing faction instead.

Let's see if we get a kill tonight, though. It's an odd numbered night, so if we get a kill, it certainly means there's another killing faction out there. And it could be the team that Corrik is on.

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PunishedBen
04/14/24 12:03:40 AM
#68:


changmas posted...
why would i confirm you town if i am scum?
An interesting question. Can you town confirm someone without being informed of their alignment? Or did ItsKnightz do something so obvious that we all saw it?

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MZero
04/14/24 12:05:53 AM
#69:


PunishedBen posted...
Interesting stuff here. We're looking at two scum teams? This is how it worked in Tekken mafia right?

oh I skimmed right past this lol

could be scum teams but i don't think that's enough info to make that assumption

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changmas
04/14/24 12:06:53 AM
#70:


PunishedBen posted...
Why do you say this and then proceed to spend the rest of the page questioning everything Knightz does

i'd like to know whether I can expect reasonable solving power or if he's more like tidus was and you kinda just tell him to do stuff.

PunishedBen posted...
Or did ItsKnightz do something so obvious that we all saw it?

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PunishedBen
04/14/24 12:13:28 AM
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Kirby321 posted...
My Bendar says that he is town this game. What a stellar entrance!

The even nights only condition for scum nightkills is indeed strange. But IGCD explicitly used the SCUM alignment, which would be weird if there were two scum teams. I'm more willing to believe a possible third-party killing faction instead.

Let's see if we get a kill tonight, though. It's an odd numbered night, so if we get a kill, it certainly means there's another killing faction out there. And it could be the team that Corrik is on.
If its a faction at all then its another scum team! I agree the toughest thing going for two Mafia teams is the fact that one is called SCUM. The format is typically MAFIA + other teams and "Scum" is more the general term for all of the bad factions. But I'm open to it still since its up to the host on how to do flavor. Killing Even nights only is some hard evidence there's something out of the norm going on

And no, I really do think Corrik only does what he did if he is town. Shooting IGCD was the optimal strategy to make TOWN win, if you read his manifestos. If he is on a second scum team then he would be more interested in hunting the other scum team and not blow his shot on IGCD like he did.

If there is just one scum team then I would feel better about Chang as it would be weird for IGCD to come out like he did on a scummate.

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PunishedBen
04/14/24 12:17:17 AM
#72:


changmas posted...
PunishedBen posted...
Or did ItsKnightz do something so obvious that we all saw it?
I thought (and saw) the same.

changmas posted...
why would i confirm you town if i am scum?
Which is why my answer to this would then be - to get ahead of the obvious.

But I know that answer is obvious too. Maybe this question was just supposed to be for ItsKnightz and not the rest of us?

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changmas
04/14/24 12:19:25 AM
#73:


PunishedBen posted...
But I know that answer is obvious too. Maybe this question was just supposed to be for ItsKnightz and not the rest of us?

it was, yes

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PunishedBen
04/14/24 12:28:51 AM
#74:


Obellisk posted...
Join me to victory.

Knightz, I recruit ye in the name of all toys around the world.

Igcd, join the kingdom of The Claw.

There will be no place for scum to hide.
The Claw does kind of sound like an alien cult. (I want in)

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Kirby321
04/14/24 12:47:07 AM
#75:


I honestly don't remember this Corrik manifesto on dayvigging IGCD immediately, but I'll take your word for it, Ben.

Ben and Corrik in the strong town pile.

Ulti in the weak town pile.

Dunno what to make of everyone else.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/14/24 12:57:58 AM
#76:


Howdy howdy howdy

Good shot Corrik, see you day 2 you absolute legend.

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Lopen
04/14/24 1:55:01 AM
#77:


##Vote: Chang

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Lopen
04/14/24 1:55:37 AM
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Pocket attempt of new town and theatre with scum flip

Get em

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changmas
04/14/24 1:59:04 AM
#79:


oh boy, I've got Ulti and Lopen targeting me

I must be in real trouble now !

xdd

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Lopen
04/14/24 2:01:16 AM
#80:


PunishedBen posted...
Why do you say this and then proceed to spend the rest of the page questioning everything Knightz does

Really good post

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Lopen
04/14/24 2:12:08 AM
#81:


Could actually see knightz being scum now that I reread a bit

Voting the dude who is saying you're town instantly feels like it could come from being informed

Rookie mistake

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Lopen
04/14/24 2:16:24 AM
#82:


wallmasterz posted...
The scum team can only perform their standard night kill on even-numbered nights

Hm

Is this part of IGCD's ability and now they can kill freely on all nights

Maybe Ulti is onto something here

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Lopen
04/14/24 2:26:31 AM
#83:


##Vote: Corrik

Let's do it

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PunishedBen
04/14/24 2:31:35 AM
#84:


Lopen posted...
Could actually see knightz being scum now that I reread a bit

Voting the dude who is saying you're town instantly feels like it could come from being informed

Rookie mistake

Lopen posted...
Hm

Is this part of IGCD's ability and now they can kill freely on all nights

Maybe Ulti is onto something here

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htaeD
04/14/24 3:30:51 AM
#85:


You know I was gonna say "seeya day2" because of what happened last game.
But Corrik shooting scum right off the bat is a pretty good way to hook me back in. (that and IGCDs unusual flip info)
I dont believe scumCorrik makes that shot on his partner, but thats mostly because scumCorrik strikes me as a really lazy yet pragmatic player who hates attention. I dont remember Corrik being that deadly on bussing either. At least not when I was scum with him.


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htaeD
04/14/24 3:44:23 AM
#86:


I dont believe IGCD would pounce on a fellow scummate like that so soon.
Chang saying "why would I do this as scum?" is a weak defense sure, but to give it to a first time player I think is fair and its annoying that IGCD answered it before knightz.
And thats not even what set IGCD off in the first place anyway, but instead being helpful to knightz was what triggered him. (same with Kirby it seems)
Looks like a classic case of scum whining about town townconfirming someone.

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htaeD
04/14/24 5:23:16 AM
#87:


Lopen posted...
Hm

Is this part of IGCD's ability and now they can kill freely on all nights

Maybe Ulti is onto something here
Would be funny if true. What a 'stinky' pete.

I also wondered if scum has daykills for odd days. But if they did I dont think it would work the way Corriks shot did. Having to announce a kill each odd day would make you all the more lynchable

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 5:54:02 AM
#88:


You guys are all talking about killing me while the only person i wanted to kill was Obellisk because in the sign-up he was acting sus.

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 5:59:32 AM
#89:


##Vote: Ben

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htaeD
04/14/24 6:07:25 AM
#90:


But its right for people to point out that what people post in the signup topic has no influence over the actual game, since in most cases people dont know if they are 'sus' until its no longer allowed to post in signup topics.

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htaeD
04/14/24 6:08:10 AM
#91:


Also why vote Ben?

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 6:15:33 AM
#92:


##unvote

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 6:17:04 AM
#93:


Lopen posted...
Hm

Is this part of IGCD's ability and now they can kill freely on all nights

Maybe Ulti is onto something here
His role was Godfather and had a one-time use of Role Cop

Hmmmmmmm.....
maybe you're Mafia

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 6:19:57 AM
#94:


Is it night phase or day phase still?

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ctesjbuvf
04/14/24 6:23:54 AM
#95:


Lmao what a start

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ctesjbuvf
04/14/24 6:30:22 AM
#96:


Does IGCD look like he's doing theater? There is time to prepare of course, but he also went after the only thing that had happened in game, I'd say it's not a set up.

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 6:31:23 AM
#97:


ItzKnightz posted...
Is it night phase or day phase still?


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htaeD
04/14/24 6:45:38 AM
#98:


Day phase. When its night phase we wouldnt be allowed to talk.

In general dayvig shots dont end the day.

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 6:51:15 AM
#99:


What do we know about Lopen? He's acting like he's scum. He wants to kill me by turning suspicion over to me so everyone votes for me to be lynched.

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ItzKnightz
04/14/24 6:56:30 AM
#100:


example 1
Lopen posted...
Could actually see knightz being scum now I reread a bit

Voting the dude who is saying you're town instantly feels like it could come from being informed

Rookie mistake
He is trying to turn suspicion over to me.

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