Current Events > Trump Trials General Part 16: It's Not Going to End, Is It?

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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1783277568713433196?s=46

Remember, Kenneth Chesebro was going around the country singing his ass off in different states to avoid more criminal charges.

CableZL posted...

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1783279912994107819?s=46

Oh this is so delicious.

Show me another Jenna Ellis smiling mugshot, please.

And here we all thought today would be boring because Drumpf wasn't in court. Love me an election fraud indictment.

darkace77450 posted...

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/04/24/donald-trump-unindicted-co-conspirator- in-false-electors-plot-michigan-rudy-giuliani-mark-meadows/73420368007/

Let's fix that "unindicted" part, shall we?

I want those 91 indictments to hit an even hundo.

Euripides posted...

Since every accusation is an admission of guilt by Trump, I can only assume that Don Jr. or Eric has a laptop full of salacious content

Their father literally admitted out loud to people that he would regularly storm into the dressing rooms of the underage participants in the pageants he was hosting while they were changing.

This is also where I'll remind you he was really good buddies with Epstein.

CableZL posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b8908ab6.jpg

Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss just took down The Gateway Pundit

One of the most beautiful things I've ever read.

If the Gateway Pundit was actual journalism, it'd be sad, however propaganda belongs in the trash.

mybbqrules posted...

I want those 91 indictments to hit an even hundo.

He's currently at 88 with the possibly of those 3 being readded.

CableZL posted...

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1783279912994107819?s=46

No more plea deals for Jenna Ellis!

CableZL posted...

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1783279912994107819?s=46

Imo don't follow or link yashar. Dudes a grifter who disappeared for over a year after a paper reported about his life being a whole grift.

ClayGuida posted...

Imo don't follow or link yashar. Dudes a grifter who disappeared for over a year after a paper reported about his life being a whole grift.

Huh, so I'm actually not following him. Not sure exactly why he's on my Twitter feed, but I'll keep that in mind

CableZL posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b9fe008b.jpg

Thats gotta be Rudy Giuliani

Yeah, this one is painfully obvious. Oh, I bet the chuds are going to bitch and wail that WaPo leaked court information, except that (as evidenced by the screenshot example) there aren't many dots to connect. All you have to do is a rudimentary Google search for someone accused of/guilty of what the redacted indictments describe.

The Raichik Chaya/LibsOfTiktok "doxxing" is one thing, but this is all currently-available-to-the-public information that does not include any personal info.

One of the most beautiful things I've ever read.
If the Gateway Pundit was actual journalism, it'd be sad, however propaganda belongs in the trash.

It's basically Infowars Jr, but in the sole catgegory of outrage porn. I'd swear, every single article I've seen chuds excerpt looks like it was written for the sole purpose of pissing chud readers off.

CableZL posted...

Huh, so I'm actually not following him. Not sure exactly why he's on my Twitter feed, but I'll keep that in mind

Doesn't Musk force everyone to have certain users that he likes on their twitter feed?

Hyena_Of_Ice posted...

Doesn't Musk force everyone to have certain users that he likes on their twitter feed?

That might be what it is. Or I might have followed someone who commented on something he said and I clicked on it. Not sure

Is Rudy Giuliani gonna have to get a public defender? He owes Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss more money than he'll be able to earn for the rest of his life.

CableZL posted...

Is Rudy Giuliani gonna have to get a public defender? He owes Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss more money than he'll be able to earn for the rest of his life.

I'm sure Trump will happily pay his legal fees for him.

That's obvious sarcasm. Trump doesn't even pay his own attorneys; there's zero chance he'll pay someone else's.

darkace77450 posted...

I'm sure Trump will happily pay his legal fees for him.

That's obvious sarcasm. Trump doesn't even pay his own attorneys; there's zero chance he'll pay someone else's.

He's paying all of his current attorneys for a while now. It's costing him millions. Getting control of the RNC was so he could use their money(what little they have) to pay for his many cases.

Bandit_Keith posted...

He's paying all of his current attorneys for a while now. It's costing him millions. Getting control of the RNC was so he could use their money(what little they have) to pay for his many cases.

That's the RNC paying them, not 45.

CableZL posted...

Jenna Ellis is probably gonna cry again

Good.

mybbqrules posted...

Their father literally admitted out loud to people that he would regularly storm into the dressing rooms of the underage participants in the pageants he was hosting while they were changing.

This is also where I'll remind you he was really good buddies with Epstein.

And he also said he would date Ivanka if she wasn't his daughter and having sex is something they have in common.

Takuya_Lee posted...

That's the RNC paying them, not 45.

They are one now.

The fact that we're all awaiting with trepidation the SC hearing on Trump's total immunity plea tells you how far off the rails Trump has steered the country.

https://www.youtube.com/live/XrwxBesifO4?si=xaokc3BMWFtahVLm

SCOTUS oral arguments start at 10 eastern

rynobot posted...

They are one now.

Maybe, but the money isn't coming out of his pockets. He just suckered the RNC to pay

CableZL posted...

https://www.youtube.com/live/XrwxBesifO4?si=xaokc3BMWFtahVLm

SCOTUS oral arguments start at 10 eastern

God, why do I have this sinking feeling they're actually going to give Trump immunity?
How did it even get this far, in a civilized society this would have been laughed out of court.

https://twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/1783493334410862913

Cemith posted...

God, why do I have this sinking feeling they're actually going to give Trump immunity?
How did it even get this far, in a civilized society this would have been laughed out of court.

That would be really stupid. That would give Biden the ability to use Seal Team 6 to invade MAL theoretically if he wanted.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx

Better link for the SCOTUS hearing. I didn't realize a bunch of random stuff goes on outside of the supreme court building

Takuya_Lee posted...

That would be really stupid. That would give Biden the ability to use Seal Team 6 to invade MAL theoretically if he wanted.

Really stupid has not stopped this current scotus before

Takuya_Lee posted...

That would be really stupid. That would give Biden the ability to use Seal Team 6 to invade MAL theoretically if he wanted.

But he wouldn't, they know he wouldn't, and everyone else knows he wouldn't.

Cemith posted...

God, why do I have this sinking feeling they're actually going to give Trump immunity?
How did it even get this far, in a civilized society this would have been laughed out of court.

Absolute immunity is too much for even the Supreme Court.

The idea isnt to give him immunity. Its to waste a fuckload of time.

Heineken14 posted...

But he wouldn't, they know he wouldn't, and everyone else knows he wouldn't.

Maybe maybe not. If not him, then someone will. Never give someone that kind of ability. It will be used one day.

I believe this is Justice Sotomayor asking if the president would be able to have the military assassinate someone he or she deems to be corrupt. Trump's lawyer saying it depends on the context.

It's really absurd that this is even happening.

Trump's lawyers have repeatedly referenced Nixon v Fitzgerald in support of their argument, which is a really ridiculous interpretation of what that case is about.

I want to believe that the SCOTUS wouldn't invalidate their own power by saying presidents have immunity

But who knows anymore

Justice Jackson says she understood that every president from the beginning of time has understood that there is the threat of prosecution after leaving office and conducted themselves accordingly.

Clarence Thomas and John Roberts appear skeptical of Trump's claims so far

That's good but still not getting my hopes up here

littlebro07 posted...

I want to believe that the SCOTUS wouldn't invalidate their own power by saying presidents have immunity

But who knows anymore

They're part of the leopards ate my face party. They're oblivious to it until it impacts them. So no, I don't think they realize what they're going to be deciding.

Takuya_Lee posted...

That would be really stupid. That would give Biden the ability to use Seal Team 6 to invade MAL theoretically if he wanted.

The real problem is, he wouldn't.

Justice Barrett brings up a good point. The special counsel's brief brings up the fact that Trump engaged in private acts sufficient to charge even if the court rules that some of his acts were official acts. Trump's lawyer concedes that private acts can be charged. Barrett went through some of the alleged conduct in the indictment and Trump's lawyer agreed that they were private acts.

This isn't going well for Trump. Which shouldn't be a surprise, given the absurdity of this appeal, but... The fact that we're even here at SCOTUS arguing about this bullshit is nuts, and makes me uneasy.

When Trump was pressuring state officials on various phone calls, it was his own private lawyers on the calls and not white house lawyers. Hard to make the case that those were official acts when he was literally using private lawyers in the effort.

I'm getting the sense that the justices are bringing up absurd hypotheticals and expecting Trump's lawyer to give a sensible answer and they aren't getting any sensible answers.

I don't think there is much fear of them saying a President has total immunity, I'm more concerned that they are willing to find a narrow ruling that says he is immune in all these instance. The old, we're not saying you are totally immune, but all this was fine.

Justice Jackson now countering Sauer's ridiculous interpretation of the Fitzgerald case in this regard

Justice Jackson says we would have the opposite problem if the president wasn't chilled. The most powerful person in the world would be unrestrained if there wasn't a threat of criminal liability and it would essentially give the opportunity to turn the seat of the presidency into a crime center (paraphrasing).

I hate this guys voice.

Honestly, I feel like the SCOTUS will ultimately rule against Trump in this instance. Even on its face, the argument is absolutely absurd and there's not a single convincing argument (even in bad-faith) for presidential immunity.

The problem is that they should have just let the lower court's ruling stand. The only reason they took this case at all is to help Trump delay the trial.

Heineken14 posted...

I hate this guys voice.

Yeah, it's like a cartoon villain where there are two separate tones of voice speaking simultaneously

Justice Jackson seems annoyed at Sauer, saying he's using circular logic that doesn't make sense

DoJ lawyer is arguing now

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