Current Events > My goal is to solo the xenosaga trilogy once with each character

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I've already successfully soloed the trilogy twice
Once with shion and once with KOSMOS
I am now attempting a ziggy solo run and am on episode 2 with him now

Ziggy is awesome so it shouldnt be a problem imo. Heck all the characters are awesome in those games that I remember.

Mistere_Man posted...

Ziggy is awesome so it shouldnt be a problem imo. Heck all the characters are awesome in those games that I remember.

as a character ziggy is awesome and yeah it has a overall great cast
not a weak link among them
but gameplay wise the tier list is all over the place

ziggy is the worst party member in battle in episode 1
in episode 2 he is a bottom 3 party member but better than shion and chaos in that game
and he is a top 3 party member in episode 3

yusiko posted...

as a character ziggy is awesome and yeah it has a overall great cast
not a weak link among them
but gameplay wise the tier list is all over the place

ziggy is the worst party member in battle in episode 1
in episode 2 he is a bottom 3 party member but better than shion and chaos in that game
and he is a top 3 party member in episode 3

It has been a very long time since I played these games so I apologize if my memory has failed me. Still I often used Ziggy in the first game as I really liked them, so I am probably just forgetting who was and wasnt good.

One thing I do remember is I never could beat the skeleton post game boss in 2 as my game kept freezing during the fight for some reason. I tried a bunch of times too. It was infuriating.

well its not like anyone is so bad they make the game actively harder if you use them like nina in breath of fire 3
everyone is still rather solid overall through the trilogy

I used Nina a bunch in bof 3 also. Lol.

my least favorite nina from both a gameplay and story perspective
BOF2 is my favorite nina

yusiko posted...

my least favorite nina from both a gameplay and story perspective
BOF2 is my favorite nina

Agreed on her being the weakest Nina, and Bof 2 Nina as favorite.

shame that BOF2 is completely outclassed by the secret party member

yusiko posted...

shame that BOF2 is completely outclassed by the secret party member

I just used both honestly, and Katt. That was my go to party other than when I needed the special skills of others.

Out of curiosity, how are you playing the games? On a PS2 or on an emulator?

EPR-radar posted...

Out of curiosity, how are you playing the games? On a PS2 or on an emulator?

If course on a ps2
Of course emulation talk is not allowed in gamefaqs so if I was on an emulator I wouldn't admit it

I really wish they would do a remaster of those, would love to play them again.

Wow you really like the trilogy huh. Once was enough for me.

Wait what do you mean solo, like keep party members dead except for one? That seems daunting. And isn't it next to impossible in Xenosaga 2?

saspa posted...

Wow you really like the trilogy huh. Once was enough for me.

Wait what do you mean solo, like keep party members dead except for one? That seems daunting. And isn't it next to impossible in Xenosaga 2?

yes keep everyone dead except 1 and fight with just the one character
its not impossible in episode 2. just incredibly tedious and unfun
and yes xenosaga is my favorite game

and im on disk 2 of episode 2 with ziggy solo now

I'm not sure if he was actually good but I always liked using Jr in the first game. Loved his skill where he shoots coins and they ricochet like crazy.

Relient_K posted...

I'm not sure if he was actually good but I always liked using Jr in the first game. Loved his skill where he shoots coins and they ricochet like crazy.

he is solid in all 3 games
never the best party member but never the worst

Nice. I legit love the games. Should do another run of the trilogy this year.

Yes, I actually, legit own the physical releases of all the games.

Snagging Episode III for $40 in 2017 was probably my greatest haul ever

I'll end up beating Episode 1 one day lmao

hope you beat episode 1 one day too

last night i beat orgulla
and now i reloaded so i can farm off her to get 25 awakening IIs
i need the reward from the pay off the captain debts sidequest and this is the quickest and easiest as well as the earliest you can get the items needed to sell to pay it off.

are the games that easy that you can solo them

accord posted...

are the games that easy that you can solo them

you can solo almost any jrpg if you have played them enough to understand the mechanics

ive also done solo runs in FF1 on the nes
ive finished a figher solo and a thief solo
im workig on a black belt solo. took a little break from it but i had beaten lich

can probably finish my ziggy run of episode 2 today and move on to episode 3

My most replayed game is BoF 3, Ive force fed that pretty bird girl so many fishheads it should be a war crime.

I always make her the most OP character out of spite >_>

Cha Da Da! and Oracle mother fucker

and episode 2 ziggy solo is finished
now i dont think im gonna jump right into episode 3

I was like episode 2 cant be as bad as everyone says! And it literally sucked the soul of my life lol

Love ep 1 soooo much the battle system is so much fun

josifrees posted...

I was like episode 2 cant be as bad as everyone says! And it literally sucked the soul of my life lol

It still has a few good moments
Play lunar dragon song for the DS
Nothing will seem bad by comparison ever again

I spent 4 hours at the dentist getting one of my bottom wisdom teeth pulled out. The numbing just wasn't working so everytime they tried to pull my tooth it hurt like crazy. Eventually I just stopped telling them it hurt and bared through the pain just so it would finally be over
And what got me through that was the question "is this worse than playing lunar dragon song?" The answer is no

best part of playing episode 3 is that its the game where ziggy is at his strongest
he is much closer to top tier in episode 3 then he is in the first 2 games
he is the weakest party member overall in episode 1 and in episode 2 he is bottom 3

I must be the only person who didn't actively dislike Xenosaga 2. Oh there were some things I thought were jarring, like the sudden change in art style especially for Shion (not to mention the weird personality shift) among many things I didn't like about the game. But once I learned how to juggle enemies the battle system became super easy and fun. It's the same strategy every time and I'm fine with it.

Plus since I really liked Jr I was into the whole Rubido-Albedo backstory, facility experimenting on superpowered kids and how they break out etc.

That does raise a question tc how exactly do you deal with the Xenosaga 2 portion of the game where you only play as Shion?

I only played the first one - does each game have Ziggy?

saspa posted...

I must be the only person who didn't actively dislike Xenosaga 2. Oh there were some things I thought were jarring, like the sudden change in art style especially for Shion (not to mention the weird personality shift) among many things I didn't like about the game. But once I learned how to juggle enemies the battle system became super easy and fun. It's the same strategy every time and I'm fine with it.

Plus since I really liked Jr I was into the whole Rubido-Albedo backstory, facility experimenting on superpowered kids and how they break out etc.

That does raise a question tc how exactly do you deal with the Xenosaga 2 portion of the game where you only play as Shion? Do you do any level grinding?

well the personality shift is more due to olivia hacks take on the character rather than an actual shift in the writing for her
it was the performance that makes it feel different.
yeah when shion is along before going to the cafe i had to go back to the opening dungeon and fight the soldiers there for awhile because shion needs a lot of work to be able to beat albedo and she doesnt do much damage to enemies in MOMO's subconcious except against the infected URTVs and those dont respawn so you cant grind off them.

once you get past albedo however the game becomes a lot easier
he is the big hurdle of episode 2. once you can beat him you should be able to handle everything else. so long as you get all the secret keys to get the skills

and yes ziggy is in each game.

and for sections where the character im soloing isnt available i just play normally such as the shion dungeon in episode 2

started episode 3
once i finish with ziggy i can loop around back to episode 1 and do MOMO solo
when i get to jin solo instead of skipping episode 1 ill try to do an AWGS only run of the game cause in 20 years and like 50 playthroughs i have never used the AWGS
they bore me
but thats an entire aspect of the game i know nothing about so i might as well learn it

I only did the post game content with shion
Didn't bother with KOSMOS or ziggy

i made good progress
beat telos mai and voyager
funny enough i actually beat voyager first try with ziggy and i consider that the hardest episode 3 boss to solo
where as i needed 3 attempts to take down mai

ive made some more decent progress. if i really push i could beat the game tonight but i dont really want to rush

got sidetracked with strangers of paradise final fantasy which i got on sale
im in the second last dungeon so next time i play ill wrap up this solo run
but right now im having fun

Having fun is what matters imo. If it isnt fun it is just work.