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ArkhamOrigins posted...

Zelda 2

This.

Then when mmorpgs starting gaining steam I put in around 3k hours in Graalonline. It looked just like Zelda and had a lot of players that I became friends with. One I still talk too after 25 years.

FF4 GBA or FFTA. I forgot which I played first. That said the DS era was my big rpg time.

andri_g posted...

Do you know what the first Japanese console RPG was to officially use the term "RPG" in its self-descriptions (ads, copy, and instructions)? The answer might surprise you.
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Here is the release sheet for the English translation version it from allGame (former professional video game classification database with a paid subscription service).

Title: The Legend of Zelda
Platform: Nintendo [Entertainment System]
Genre: Role-Playing
Style: Third-Person 2D Action RPG
Release Date: 1987
Developer: Nintendo R&D4
Publisher: Nintendo of America, Inc.
Controls: Joystick/Gamepad
Flags: Historically Significant, Available for download on Wii

I've no doubt.

But regardless of how the publisher described it, RPG and action-adventure are separate genres and it definitely fits the latter.

Wait, are yall at odds with Zelda being an RPG?

modena posted...

Wait, are yall at odds with Zelda being an RPG?

is Darksiders an RPG?

thronedfire2 posted...

is Darksiders an RPG?

I had to google what it was, from that naw. No it's not.

Dragon Warrior was the first one that I enjoyed. I played some here and there for a long time afterwards. The first jrpg that I fell in love with was Lunar for the SegaCD though.

modena posted...

I had to google what it was, from that naw. No it's not.

but it's one of the most well known Zelda clones.

thronedfire2 posted...

but it's one of the most well known Zelda clones.

Ah, never hit my radar. I discovered new games then from friends or walking around blockbuster/walmart.

So are you saying because that game is action adventure then Zelda is too?

Final Fantasy 4.

Dragon warrior/quest on the NES. My first exposure to toriyama yet I didn't know it at the time.

modena posted...

Wait, are yall at odds with Zelda being an RPG?

The early ones are action adventure 100%

BOTW is blurring the lines a bit. Armor sets, different weapons, stats ( ie heart containers & stamina), cooking, Quests other than the main quest

You also have more robust stores than past games.

vycebrand2 posted...

The early ones are action adventure 100%

BOTW is blurring the lines a bit. Armor sets, different weapons, stats ( ie heart containers & stamina), cooking, Quests other than the main quest

You also have more robust stores than past games.

I would say 2 is an RPG. You have stats, several sidequests, can level up health, defense, offense.

FF4

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

I've no doubt.

But regardless of how the publisher described it, RPG and action-adventure are separate genres and it definitely fits the latter.

It can be argued that packaging and ad descriptions are loose references to the game; they do not necessarily represent the game's actual content--they can be separated from the game. However, instructions and in-game text are direct references; they represent the game's actual content--they cannot be separated from the game.

Pre-1990s RPGs in Japan...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b5e3691e.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bd26f025.jpg

And *this* is where the RPG/Adventure disagreement comes from: Management (studio) and Promotion (agency) were told by the Publisher to hide any glaring western-RPG influences by localizing the look, feel, and description of their RPGs to appeal to the sensibilities and preferences of Japanese gamers.

tl;dr: The Legend of Zelda (1986) is not an action adventure with beefed-up mechanics, it is an action RPG with simplified mechanics.

Tabletop = Dungeons and Dragons

decades later
VIdeogame RPGS - Suikoden