Current Events > Do you believe that Biden "truly cares" about the american people?

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Smallville
04/29/24 12:51:05 PM
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centered presidents and did not truly care about the american people, but sadly in their opinion, only his self interests. So do you personally think that biden does?

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legendary_zell
04/29/24 12:55:32 PM
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I think he cares, yeah, he seems like an above average guy for a politician. But I think his care is a lot more present for the rich and middle class. And his ability to conceive of options for what to do with that care are extremely limited due to his ideology.

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GranTurismo
04/29/24 12:57:10 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
I think he cares, yeah, he seems like an above average guy for a politician. But I think his care is a lot more present for the rich and middle class. And his ability to conceive of options for what to do with that care are extremely limited due to his ideology.
his ideology, limited? what do you mean though?
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AbsolutelyNoOne
04/29/24 12:59:22 PM
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Biden cares more about Americans than Trump did. Caring more about Americans than Trump did is not hard. Ripper Roo from Crash Bandicoot would care more about Americans than Trump did if we elected him president.

As for whether Biden actually cares, I'd say yes, but he is sometimes extremely misguided on things and that gets into a lot of conflict with the general public.

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ButteryMales
04/29/24 1:00:02 PM
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You heard Trump truly cares? He doesn't even care about his own children.
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legendary_zell
04/29/24 1:06:50 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
his ideology, limited? what do you mean though?

He's a neoliberal through and through. That means he owes allegiance to the market and market structures and the institutions that uphold them (courts, banks, legislative norms etc) before and to the exclusion of anything that would help ordinary people, but would interfere with the market.

So he'd never suggest a Great Society, much less a New Deal or more democratic control of the economy/workplace. That limits him to tax cuts and credits, business loans, and technocratic solutions.

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RchHomieQuanChi
04/29/24 1:08:28 PM
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I think he cares about having a stable and relatively safe country.

However, I don't think he cares one way or the other about the average person. Not active contempt, but rather just out of sight, out of mind.

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GranTurismo
04/29/24 1:09:42 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
He's a neoliberal through and through. That means he owes allegiance to the market and market structures and the institutions that uphold them (courts, banks, legislative norms etc) before and to the exclusion of anything that would help ordinary people, but would interfere with the market.

So he'd never suggest a Great Society, much less a New Deal or more democratic control of the economy/workplace. That limits him to tax cuts and credits, business loans, and technocratic solutions.
oh, interesting. you are sure of your assessment of him being like a neoliberal? what category do you place trump in, in that regard though?
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LeoRavus
04/29/24 1:11:18 PM
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I have to wonder how much any of them care about things other than their own interests. Money's a powerful corruptor and they're all rich.

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creativerealms
04/29/24 1:13:42 PM
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To a point. I think he cares about this country.

Defiantly less self-centered than the other option.

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Deegs
04/29/24 1:16:27 PM
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No I don't but to be fair I don't believe any politician really does. If Biden did he'd respect his promise to be a one term president and step aside for someone much younger.

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RndmNmber1
04/29/24 1:16:43 PM
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He's as caring as the average politicians.

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ReiRei89
04/29/24 1:18:43 PM
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Wait is TC seriously trying to claim fat fuck cared about the American people?

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Vyrulisse
04/29/24 1:19:13 PM
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No politician actually cares about the people.

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GranTurismo
04/29/24 1:20:06 PM
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Deegs posted...
No I don't but to be fair I don't believe any politician really does. If Biden did he'd respect his promise to be a one term president and step aside for someone much younger.
did biden really say only 1 term, officially?
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Deegs
04/29/24 1:22:04 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
did biden really say only 1 term, officially?

Promise might be too strong a word but it was in the news in late 2019:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474027-biden-indicates-he-will-only-serve-one-term-as-president-report/

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SpawnShadow
04/29/24 1:23:50 PM
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Yes, at least to some extent. Biden has some flaws (in particular, his horrendous mishandling of the Israel-Palestine situation), but he is generally in possession of a functioning sense of empathy for people who aren't himself.

Donald Trump, on the other hand, has only ever cared about one person in his entire life: Donald Trump. As far as he's concerned, literally everyone else on the planet, including every single one of his kids, can go to hell. And even then, his recklessness, impulsivity, and lack of foresight will ensure that he hurts himself along with everyone else.
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Heavy_D_Forever
04/29/24 1:32:42 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
No politician actually cares about the people.
This x1000

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legendary_zell
04/29/24 1:47:51 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
oh, interesting. you are sure of your assessment of him being like a neoliberal? what category do you place trump in, in that regard though?

Yes, I'm sure. Every President since Carter has been a neoliberal. Trump likely doesn't have an actual ideology beyond personal self interest and general bigotry. But in terms of how he actually ruled, he was a neoliberal.

There's two dynamics when it comes to neoliberalism with our presidents. Republican Presidents push it to its limits. Democrats reign it back in a little in some ways, but further cement that it's the only option and neutralize any attempts to find an alternative.

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SauI_Goodman
04/29/24 1:48:49 PM
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He cares in an election year. Just like any politician.

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TommyVercetti
04/30/24 11:31:11 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
He cares in an election year. Just like any politician.

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ai123
04/30/24 11:38:13 AM
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Trump is a textbook narcissistic sociopath. It's not that he chooses to be, or has become, 'uncaring', he is simply psychologically incapable of caring about anything beyond his own short to medium term interests.

Biden is at least capable of caring and empathy. Whether you think he demonstrates that through his policies is likely determined by you political inclination.

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Smallville
04/30/24 11:39:33 AM
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ai123 posted...
Trump is a textbook narcissistic sociopath. It's not that he chooses to be, or has become, 'uncaring', he is simply psychologically incapable of caring about anything beyond his own short to medium term interests.

Biden is at least capable of caring and empathy. Whether you think he demonstrates that through his policies is likely determined by you political inclination.
oh you think that about trump? any doubt about your assessment of him, though?

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TerraSeeker
04/30/24 11:46:48 AM
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He cares about himself.

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ai123
04/30/24 11:57:51 AM
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Smallville posted...
oh you think that about trump? any doubt about your assessment of him, though?
No.

Here are the DSM-5 criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

  • A grandiose sense of self-importance (i.e., exaggerates their achievements and abilities)
  • A preoccupation with the idea of gaining success, power, love, and physical attractiveness
  • A belief that they are special or high status and can only be understood by similar people or should only associate with those people (or institutions)
  • A need for excessive admiration
  • A sense of entitlement and expectation that others will comply or give them favorable treatment
  • Exploits other people for personal gain
  • Lacks empathy for others
  • Envies others or believes that other people envy them
  • Arrogant behaviors and attitudes
You need 5 for a diagnosis. Trump has a full house.


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Whiterun_Guard_
04/30/24 12:08:32 PM
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Truly cares? Give me a break.

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dummy420
04/30/24 12:11:07 PM
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Nope. But he's not actively trying to destroy the country so I can deal with that.

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Trumpo
04/30/24 12:12:51 PM
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DToast, this is what a bad faith post looks like

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Rai_Jin
04/30/24 12:18:37 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
He's a neoliberal through and through. That means he owes allegiance to the market and market structures and the institutions that uphold them (courts, banks, legislative norms etc) before and to the exclusion of anything that would help ordinary people, but would interfere with the market.

it's more that he just trusts these things.

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ironman2009
04/30/24 12:23:04 PM
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Lol

Lmao even

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Heineken14
04/30/24 12:29:31 PM
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RndmNmber1 posted...
He's as caring as the average politicians.

Vyrulisse posted...
No politician actually cares about the people.

The republicans thank you for buying into their bullshit.

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Heineken14
04/30/24 12:31:30 PM
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As for Biden, like some others have said, I think he does care about the country and wants it to be good and stable, but he's old as dirt, grew up in a different time period, and has been rich a majority of his life. I don't think he really understands what he needs to care about for the American people.

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legendary_zell
04/30/24 6:38:14 PM
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Rai_Jin posted...
it's more that he just trusts these things.

You're right, that's more accurate. It's not some conspiracy or like he's being blackmailed or manipulated, he believes these things. He has actual beliefs, unlike Trump who just has grievance and greed.

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Iodine
04/30/24 7:01:06 PM
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His fetish for Israel is really bad.

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cjsdowg
04/30/24 7:02:03 PM
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HE doesn't care , but he doesn't hate people who are different like Trump does .

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thronedfire2
04/30/24 7:02:32 PM
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yes

but that means he has to care about all 330 million of us and not just a select portion

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HashtagSEP
04/30/24 7:03:41 PM
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Deegs posted...
Promise might be too strong a word but it was in the news in late 2019:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474027-biden-indicates-he-will-only-serve-one-term-as-president-report/

Hes going into this thinking, I want to find a running mate I can turn things over to after four years, but if thats not possible or doesnt happen then Ill run for reelection. But hes not going to publicly make a one-term pledge, another adviser reportedly said.

Seems far, far from a promise.

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Cheater87
04/30/24 7:04:02 PM
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He cares more than Trump does.

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Prismsblade
04/30/24 7:08:27 PM
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No, hes done nothing to benefit this country or its people the past year, and any and acts he did beforehand was just an act as far as I see it.

But if he accomplished one thing its open the countrys eyes to Israels reach and influence they have in our country. One thats been frightfully prevalent for over half a century now.

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PoIkan
04/30/24 7:15:20 PM
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No. Still will vote for him over Trump because American 'democracy' sucks.
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loafy013
04/30/24 7:23:43 PM
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Deegs posted...
Promise might be too strong a word but it was in the news in late 2019:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474027-biden-indicates-he-will-only-serve-one-term-as-president-report/
You should read the articles you link to. The rumors were coming from unverified aides. Here is what came from a campaign manager officially.
Kate Bedingfield, Bidens deputy campaign manager and communications director, declined Politicos request for comment but later tweeted this is not a conversation our campaign is having and not something VP Biden is thinking about.
Lots of chatter out there on this so just want to be crystal clear: this is not a conversation our campaign is having and not something VP Biden is thinking about. https://t.co/mXNEnX6GrU
Kate Bedingfield (@KBeds) December 11, 2019


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