Poll of the Day > Is it a good idea to have subsidized housing in a wealthy neighborhood?

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ItIsSoOver 05/02/24 12:31:24 AM #1:	Is it a good idea to move poor people into a wealthy neighborhood? - Results (33 votes) Yes, and I am affluent 12.12% (4 votes) 4 Yes, and I am in the middle class 27.27% (9 votes) 9 Yes, and I am poor 9.09% (3 votes) 3 No, and I am affluent 12.12% (4 votes) 4 No, and I am in the middle class 30.3% (10 votes) 10 No, and I am poor 9.09% (3 votes) 3 You have to have a topic, a poll question, and a post in order to post a poll. --- I'm a girl. I have to put this in my signature because some people still think its cool to play gender police https://i.ibb.co/dp7PWcx/cz3qFEJ.png <cite>ItIsSoOver posted [p:980198569] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote> Is it a good idea to move poor people into a wealthy neighborhood? - Results (33 votes) Yes, and I am affluent 12.12% (4 votes) 4 Yes, and I am in the middle class 27.27% (9 votes) 9 Yes, and I am poor 9.09% (3 votes) 3 No, and I am affluent 12.12% (4 votes) 4 No, and I am in the middle class 30.3% (10 votes) 10 No, and I am poor 9.09% (3 votes) 3 Show Voting Form You have to have a topic, a poll question, and a post in order to post a poll. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/02/24 2:23:17 AM #2:	Work needs doing everywhere and so everywhere needs to house minimum wage workers --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:980199435] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>Work needs doing everywhere and so everywhere needs to house minimum wage workers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 05/02/24 6:20:28 AM #3:	The trend in my area seems to be putting wealthy neighborhoods into poor areas for...reasons? IDK, it just seems odd seeing McMansions sprouting up next to the meth lab near where I grew up. Or putting expensive loft apartments less than a mile from where someone gets murdered at least once a week. Yes, both of those actually happened. --- My bookshelf: https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/152760030 Comics: https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/profile/dikitain <cite>Dikitain posted [p:980200417] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>The trend in my area seems to be putting wealthy neighborhoods into poor areas for...reasons? IDK, it just seems odd seeing McMansions sprouting up next to the meth lab near where I grew up. Or putting expensive loft apartments less than a mile from where someone gets murdered at least once a week. Yes, both of those actually happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/02/24 8:24:11 AM #4:	Dikitain posted... The trend in my area seems to be putting wealthy neighborhoods into poor areas for...reasons? IDK, it just seems odd seeing McMansions sprouting up next to the meth lab near where I grew up. Or putting expensive loft apartments less than a mile from where someone gets murdered at least once a week. Yes, both of those actually happened. That's just gentrification. Poor areas have cheaper housing, cheaper housing attracts less wealthy people like artists and quirkier small businesses that give the area interesting character, wealthier people start wanting to move in for that character, which creates an incentive to develop the area with higher-cost housing. What you're describing is a particularly aggressive example and may have skipped the "poor artists move in and make the neighbourhood interesting" step, but with the housing crisis, lots of developers are snapping up cheap land wherever they can and charging as much as they can get away with, getting away with significantly more than they otherwise might have been able to because of the low supply. Kyuubi4269 posted... Work needs doing everywhere and so everywhere needs to house minimum wage workers Pretty much. "If you live in a 15-minute city, but everyone staffing the businesses and services you use can't afford to live in it, you actually live in a theme park." The idea of "wealthy" and "poor" neighbourhoods the way America does them just doesn't work for designing a city. Sustainable city design entails designing neighbourhoods to be self-sufficient, and that means including a mix of businesses and housing such that people working in the area can live nearby. Otherwise, you need a ton of extra transportation infrastructure, whether that's public transit routes or roads with parking, and both are expensive (both in terms of direct costs and in terms of profitable land use). --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:980201189] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>Dikitain posted... </cite><quote>The trend in my area seems to be putting wealthy neighborhoods into poor areas for...reasons? IDK, it just seems odd seeing McMansions sprouting up next to the meth lab near where I grew up. Or putting expensive loft apartments less than a mile from where someone gets murdered at least once a week.Yes, both of those actually happened.</quote>That's just gentrification. Poor areas have cheaper housing, cheaper housing attracts less wealthy people like artists and quirkier small businesses that give the area interesting character, wealthier people start wanting to move in for that character, which creates an incentive to develop the area with higher-cost housing. What you're describing is a particularly aggressive example and may have skipped the "poor artists move in and make the neighbourhood interesting" step, but with the housing crisis, lots of developers are snapping up cheap land wherever they can and charging as much as they can get away with, getting away with significantly more than they otherwise might have been able to because of the low supply.Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite><quote>Work needs doing everywhere and so everywhere needs to house minimum wage workers</quote>Pretty much. "If you live in a 15-minute city, but everyone staffing the businesses and services you use can't afford to live in it, you actually live in a theme park." The idea of "wealthy" and "poor" neighbourhoods the way America does them just doesn't work for designing a city. Sustainable city design entails designing neighbourhoods to be self-sufficient, and that means including a mix of businesses and housing such that people working in the area can live nearby. Otherwise, you need a ton of extra transportation infrastructure, whether that's public transit routes or roads with parking, and both are expensive (both in terms of direct costs and in terms of profitable land use). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/02/24 9:43:12 AM #5:	Mixed SES is one of the greatest contributors to reduced bigotry and increased sense of community. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:980201996] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>Mixed SES is one of the greatest contributors to reduced bigotry and increased sense of community. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItIsSoOver 05/02/24 10:59:18 AM #6:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Work needs doing everywhere and so everywhere needs to house minimum wage workers They could always commute rather than live in an area where the cost of living is so far out of their means, ya know? Or they can live across the street from a restaurant where the average meal price is half their monthly salary and every other amenity is out of their price range. --- I'm a girl. I have to put this in my signature because some people still think its cool to play gender police https://i.ibb.co/dp7PWcx/cz3qFEJ.png <cite>ItIsSoOver posted [p:980202888] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite><quote>Work needs doing everywhere and so everywhere needs to house minimum wage workers</quote>They could always commute rather than live in an area where the cost of living is so far out of their means, ya know? Or they can live across the street from a restaurant where the average meal price is half their monthly salary and every other amenity is out of their price range. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/02/24 11:40:36 AM #7:	ItIsSoOver posted... They could always commute And what does that cost the city? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:980203487] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>ItIsSoOver posted... </cite><quote>They could always commute</quote>And what does that cost the city? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItIsSoOver 05/02/24 11:43:32 AM #8:	Bad dog. Sit. Stay. --- I'm a girl. I have to put this in my signature because some people still think its cool to play gender police https://i.ibb.co/dp7PWcx/cz3qFEJ.png <cite>ItIsSoOver posted [p:980203531] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>Bad dog. Sit. Stay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IqarP15 05/02/24 12:23:37 PM #9:	Probably not. The wealthy would no doubt complain about property values going down. --- "SPOILERS"... If ppl call me a douche bag I reply "Well at least I'm scoring!" <cite>IqarP15 posted [p:980204033] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>Probably not. The wealthy would no doubt complain about property values going down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
User728 05/02/24 12:44:05 PM #10:	No to any socialism of any sort (including social security, etc). If we want to discuss UBI, sure. Socialism is a non-starter for me. <cite>User728 posted [p:980204305] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>No to any socialism of any sort (including social security, etc). If we want to discuss UBI, sure. Socialism is a non-starter for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/02/24 4:34:58 PM #11:	ItIsSoOver posted... They could always commute rather than live in an area where the cost of living is so far out of their means, ya know? Or they can live across the street from a restaurant where the average meal price is half their monthly salary and every other amenity is out of their price range. Or... Because the area houses both groups, they also serve both groups. There shouldn't be places where the cheapest shopping is wholefoods, and there shouldn't be shitholes where Costco is a tourist attraction. The existance of poor people does not have to mean the place is neglected, and the existance of rich people shouldn't make a place completely monoculture. Most of the world is in the middle and most of the world should reflect that. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:980207565] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>ItIsSoOver posted...</cite><quote>They could always commute rather than live in an area where the cost of living is so far out of their means, ya know? Or they can live across the street from a restaurant where the average meal price is half their monthly salary and every other amenity is out of their price range. </quote>Or... Because the area houses both groups, they also serve both groups. There shouldn't be places where the cheapest shopping is wholefoods, and there shouldn't be shitholes where Costco is a tourist attraction.The existance of poor people does not have to mean the place is neglected, and the existance of rich people shouldn't make a place completely monoculture. Most of the world is in the middle and most of the world should reflect that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 05/02/24 4:41:35 PM #12:	yes --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:980207643] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 05/02/24 4:42:51 PM #13:	ReturnOfFa posted... yes <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:980207657] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite><quote>yes</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 05/02/24 4:43:49 PM #14:	User728 posted... No to any socialism of any sort (including social security, etc). If we want to discuss UBI, sure. Socialism is a non-starter for me. Do you even know what socialism is --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:980207670] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>User728 posted... </cite><quote>No to any socialism of any sort (including social security, etc). If we want to discuss UBI, sure. Socialism is a non-starter for me.</quote>Do you even know what socialism is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 05/02/24 4:48:00 PM #15:	ItIsSoOver posted... They could always commute rather than live in an area where the cost of living is so far out of their means, ya know? Or they can live across the street from a restaurant where the average meal price is half their monthly salary and every other amenity is out of their price range. what are you smoking rofl --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:980207724] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>ItIsSoOver posted... </cite><quote>They could always commute rather than live in an area where the cost of living is so far out of their means, ya know? Or they can live across the street from a restaurant where the average meal price is half their monthly salary and every other amenity is out of their price range.</quote>what are you smoking rofl </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 05/02/24 4:48:45 PM #16:	IqarP15 posted... Probably not. The wealthy would no doubt complain about property values going down. good --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:980207737] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>IqarP15 posted... </cite><quote>Probably not. The wealthy would no doubt complain about property values going down.</quote>good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItIsSoOver 05/02/24 4:51:35 PM #17:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Or... Because the area houses both groups, they also serve both groups. There shouldn't be places where the cheapest shopping is wholefoods, and there shouldn't be shitholes where Costco is a tourist attraction. The existance of poor people does not have to mean the place is neglected, and the existance of rich people shouldn't make a place completely monoculture. Most of the world is in the middle and most of the world should reflect that. Most of the world does reflect that. Its not like affluent neighborhoods are all over the place ReturnOfFa posted... what are you smoking rofl lmao you totally got me lmao. good one bro lmao. --- I'm a girl. I have to put this in my signature because some people still think its cool to play gender police https://i.ibb.co/dp7PWcx/cz3qFEJ.png <cite>ItIsSoOver posted [p:980207771] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite><quote>Or... Because the area houses both groups, they also serve both groups. There shouldn't be places where the cheapest shopping is wholefoods, and there shouldn't be shitholes where Costco is a tourist attraction.The existance of poor people does not have to mean the place is neglected, and the existance of rich people shouldn't make a place completely monoculture. Most of the world is in the middle and most of the world should reflect that.</quote>Most of the world does reflect that. Its not like affluent neighborhoods are all over the placeReturnOfFa posted... </cite><quote>what are you smoking rofl</quote>lmao you totally got me lmao. good one bro lmao. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/02/24 4:53:20 PM #18:	ItIsSoOver posted... Most of the world does reflect that. Its not like affluent neighborhoods are all over the place They literally are, but I live in London so all the country's affluent neighbourhoods are here and expanding in to traditional shitholes --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:980207800] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>ItIsSoOver posted...</cite><quote>Most of the world does reflect that. Its not like affluent neighborhoods are all over the place</quote>They literally are, but I live in London so all the country's affluent neighbourhoods are here and expanding in to traditional shitholes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
grimhilde00 05/02/24 4:56:17 PM #19:	yes https://www.jrf.org.uk/housing/mixed-communities-success-and-sustainability Mixed income communities studied were overwhelmingly judged successful; they were not characterised by the problems often linked with exclusively low-income areas. Mixed tenure and mixed income were non-issues to residents they saw their neighbours as ordinary people. Mixed income communities can attract young families. Developers engaged in mixing tenures had no major problems. --- kriem <cite>grimhilde00 posted [p:980207844] in Is it a go... [t:80760406]...</cite> <quote>yeshttps://www.jrf.org.uk/housing/mixed-communities-success-and-sustainabilityMixed income communities studied were overwhelmingly judged successful; they were not characterised by the problems often linked with exclusively low-income areas. Mixed tenure and mixed income were non-issues to residents they saw their neighbours as ordinary people. Mixed income communities can attract young families. Developers engaged in mixing tenures had no major problems. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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