Current Events > Teen who beat TA for confiscating Switch sues school

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https://www.thepublica.com/teen-who-beat-teaching-aide-over-nintendo-switch-confiscation-sues-school-for-failing-to-meet-his-needs/

Lock him in, throw the keys.

Lmao fuck this. Everything is someone else's fault.

It barely even has a web browser

He could've been at home surfin' it up on Xbox but no of course that wouldn't due Mr. Truancy Officer

In the suit, Depas lawyers claim that Matanzas High School employees knew of his disabilities, triggers, and problem behaviors, along with his history of wrongdoings, including spitting, shoving an aide, intimidating school staff, and shouting at his teachers. It also highlights that because Depa is a large black male student, he is subjected to misperceptions and racism.

Would it be racism if the kid is actually violent?

Wouldn't the racism come from if the kid was a gentle giant but people thought he was violent because he's black?

On the one side, the lawyer requesting that the school cover the cost for that person to be put in a special needs school is probably the most reasonable thing that they could ask for in a lawsuit like this.

On the other, once again blaming the school for the fact that they apparently didn't take it seriously enough that if you touch this kid's Nintendo he will try to kill you just shows that no attempt has or will be made to correct the behavior and this kid is just going to grow up to be a violent psychopath who blames everybody else for their outbursts.

If we take the special needs aspect at face value I don't think he's wrong tbh

Like it obviously doesn't absolve him in any way of the crime, but it's clear the school failed in a number of ways here. It just looks bad because the perpetrator filed this suit and not the victim.

I mean, its probably true

a Florida school (really, most schools) almost certainly doesnt have the resources to meet the needs of autistic youth

If you're unhinged enough that you'd try to murder someone over your video game you probably shouldn't be out in the general public.

Full_Pokedex posted...

If you're unhinged enough that you'd try to murder someone over your video game you probably shouldn't be out in the general public.

Didn't you murder a rooster?

Yeah good luck with that bozo.

Honestly, the background context of this makes me feel bad for everyone.

This kid was institutionalized because his mother knew he was this awful. Insurance refused to continue to cover the institution, then moved him to a halfway home, which then subsequently moved him back into the school system. The mother from what I saw tried the entire way to keep this from happening.

This feels like a failure on multiple levels here unfortunately, and I'm not sure there was a good way to fix this outside of locking the kid up...which tragically his mother was trying to do for people's safety and his benefit but it just did not get paid for.

DipDipDiver posted...

If we take the special needs aspect at face value I don't think he's wrong tbh

Like it obviously doesn't absolve him in any way of the crime, but it's clear the school failed in a number of ways here. It just looks bad because the perpetrator filed this suit and not the victim.

The student has a history of aggressive, hostile behavior towards staff and taking this at face value, his presumed sensory needs/accommodations begin and end with being able to play video games at any time present. Unless the school's staff unanimously has no experience or credentials, I can't imagine any scenario where a special education department and IEP case manager would sign off on a primary accomodation being "(student) must play their Nintendo Switch whenever necessary or else they become violent".

If a student's basic ability to behave and not beat the shit out of staff hinged on requiring constant audiovisual and tactile stimuli specifically in the form of video games, there's not a chance in hell their IEP case manager wouldn't have recommended placement in a special school for students with severe behavioral and sensory issues. If this was the case, and I don't think it is, then the school deserves a ton of blame and should have their special education department and adiminstration investigated by the district or state department of education.

The suit also describes Depas behavior as a self-defense mechanism after hearing educators talk about him in front of his other classmates. His lawyers blame the entire incident on Naydich, arguing she should not have interacted with him in the manner she did.
The paraprofessional should not have interacted with the student in this manner. Her and the teachers actions caused a predictable outcome. The IEP and behavior set out the evidence [of] interventions that should be utilized when a student misbehaves. The paraprofessional did not follow the plan and did not utilize an evidence-based strategy, putting herself in a dangerous situation.

Fuck this victim blaming horse shit

Flaming_Fire619 posted...

Honestly, the background context of this makes me feel bad for everyone.

This kid was institutionalized because his mother knew he was this awful. Insurance refused to continue to cover the institution, then moved him to a halfway home, which then subsequently moved him back into the school system. The mother from what I saw tried the entire way to keep this from happening.

This feels like a failure on multiple levels here unfortunately, and I'm not sure there was a good way to fix this outside of locking the kid up...which tragically his mother was trying to do for people's safety and his benefit but it just did not get paid for.

Fucking, they should sue the insurance. That poor mother.

That lawyer must have really needed work

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The article says sentencing was supposed to be yesterday, but other articles say it was delayed. I almost wonder if the specific asks they have are in anticipation of punishment. Apparently this particular assault ranges from probation to 30 years in prison. If we assume something reasonable like "10 years probation and mandatory counseling" as a reasonable outcome, than it's possible the whole point of the lawsuit is to get the school to pay for his punishment.

Frankly I think there is an obvious racist component to all the people saying this is horseshit

if there was already protocol for this student, it means that the child had known behavioral issues, and if the policy wasnt followed and it led to the outburst, yes thats absolutely the fault of everyone involved

He was most likely put through the system's cheapest clinic "doctors" and social workers who didn't do shit to teach him how to function normally in society.

Lmao, of course. This is the united states where suing people is a national pastime.

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Right, I think we're on the same page there. Asking to be placed in a special needs school is completely reasonable. I'm saying I wonder if the ask (having the school cover all the costs for both the school and mental health services) is in anticipation of the state punishing him to mandatory mental health counseling.

TheGoldenEel posted...

if there was already protocol for this student, it means that the child had known behavioral issues, and if the policy wasnt followed and it led to the outburst, yes thats absolutely the fault of everyone involved

It just seems doubtful that "Let them have their Nintendo all day long" was actually a protocol or policy, like they appear to be claiming.

Spitting at and shoving teachers? Teachers arent paid enough to deal with that shit.

This kid obviously needs help and the school didn't give him the help he needed, this should have picked up before the outburst.

The entire system failed this student. The child was special needs, and there is a 100 percent a racial component to this. If you think the handling of mental health is bad normally, just look how fucked up the diagnoses are for minorities. Constantly ignored or misdiagnosis all over the place.

I like the defense of the school should have known he'd be a psychopath. His parents couldn't have made sure he didn't bring a Switch to school was never an option? Always blame the school never the parents. Never changes lol

Some of the people ITT defending the kid must either have forgotten about the video or have not seen it.

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I like the defense of the school should have known he'd be a psychopath. His parents couldn't have made sure he didn't bring a Switch to school was never an option? Always blame the school never the parents. Never changes lol

Read the actual article. This whole fucking system fucked up here. But yes, putting him in prison for 30 years. Surely the best solution.

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Some of the people ITT defending the kid must either have forgotten about the video or have not seen it.

I've seen police do worse and walk off Scott free.

pazzy posted...

Read the actual article. This whole fucking system fucked up here. But yes, putting him in prison for 30 years. Surely the best solution.

I did and it's written to be bias from the defense side.

Disturbing surveillance footage shows the teen, who was 17 at the time, pushing the teaching aide to the ground before kneeling and punching her in the head and back over a dozen times.

Maybe look up the video and it'll change your mind.

pazzy posted...

I've seen police do worse and walk off Scott free.

Imagine comparing the job of a police officer and a 17 year old violent kid who tried to kill someone.

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I did and it's written to be bias from the defense side.

Disturbing surveillance footage shows the teen, who was 17 at the time, pushing the teaching aide to the ground before kneeling and punching her in the head and back over a dozen times.

Maybe look up the video and it'll change your mind.

Again, I've seen police do worse to people and walk off Scott free.

The issue is that this person CLEARLY had mentally issues and the school and any other systems at play refused to do anything about it.

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Imagine comparing the job of a police officer and a 17 year old violent kid who tried to kill someone.

Yes. The kid is much younger and has mental problems, the police officer is at least a fully grown adult, shouldn't have a series of mental problems when hired, and be trained to not beat people nearly or to death. The 17 year old with noted mental problems should get 30 years and police officers that do the same, nothing. Great argument.

pazzy posted...

Again, I've seen police do worse to people and walk off Scott free.

Stop using an imaginary dickhead to hand wave this off

Id like to see the TA stand in front of the attacker when he is in a cell or restraints, pull out attackers Switch and manually delete all his saves right in front of him...

Love the concern trolling. Good job pazzy.

Bloodychess posted...

Stop using an imaginary dickhead to hand wave this off

This doesn't even make sense.
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Love the concern trolling. Good job pazzy.

If by concern trolling you mean "get the kid the actual mental health assistance he needs instead of locking him away for 30 years" is concern trolling, then I'll gladly concern troll to have more mental healthcare taken seriously.

You were quick to assume racism was involved. Seems like concern trolling to me. Who was your main?

he's not getting 30 years, so I don't know why you keep saying that.

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You were quick to assume racism was involved. Seems like concern trolling to me. Who was your main?

The system failing is the actual racism here.
s0nicfan posted...

he's not getting 30 years, so I don't know why you keep saying that.

It says facing up to 30 years. That's why it's been said.

Mental health awareness, but for some

A teacher taking away a kids switch, even if this person is special needs, should not end with the teacher getting beat the shit out of. Thats not acceptable no matter the situation.

This kid should not have been at a school that isnt specifically for people with special needs.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

A teacher taking away a kids switch, even if this person is special needs, should not end with the teacher getting beat the shit out of.

No clearly the teacher was at fault here is the vibe going on rn

pazzy posted...

It says facing up to 30 years. That's why it's been said.

You keep saying 30 years, though ("putting him in prison for 30 years", "The 17 year old with noted mental problems should get 30 years") Do you actually think he's getting 30 years? You're not saying "likely to get probation" or "might get a year in prison"... you seem pretty sold to the maximum possible penalty that this crime offers. I don't want to accuse you of being hyperbolic for the sake of trolling or shitposting, though, so I figured I'd give you an opportunity to clarify why you think he's getting the maximum penalty in all your posts.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

A teacher taking away a kids switch, even if this person is special needs, should not end with the teacher getting beat the shit out of. Thats not acceptable no matter the situation.

This kid should not have been at a school that isnt specifically for people with special needs.

That's clearly where I'm going with what I was saying. What he did was unacceptable. But I'm also aware of have people with mental handicaps are.

This kid shouldn't have been left to his own devices. The failure is on all of the adults around him that can clearly see this person is not playing with a full deck.

A punishment isn't going to help the person because it doesn't actually accomplish anything in this case.

s0nicfan posted...

You keep saying 30 years, though ("putting him in prison for 30 years", "The 17 year old with noted mental problems should get 30 years") Do you actually think he's getting 30 years? You're not saying "likely to get probation" or "might get a year in prison"... you seem pretty sold to the maximum possible penalty that this crime offers.

He probably won't. Trying to be nitpicky here as a gotcha is a dumb one. The person needs to be in a mental healthcare facility. Even putting them in prison for one year does nothing.

pazzy posted...

He probably won't. Trying to be nitpicky here as a gotcha is a dumb one. The person needs to be in a mental healthcare facility. Even putting them in prison for one year does nothing.

Sounds like was and insurance stopped paying for it so yeah. This miraculous access to better care youre wanting isnt going to happen when one half of our political spectrum actively demonizes anyone that isnt a cis-white malethis will also never happen in a red state.

Flaming_Fire619 posted...

Honestly, the background context of this makes me feel bad for everyone.

This kid was institutionalized because his mother knew he was this awful. Insurance refused to continue to cover the institution, then moved him to a halfway home, which then subsequently moved him back into the school system. The mother from what I saw tried the entire way to keep this from happening.

This feels like a failure on multiple levels here unfortunately, and I'm not sure there was a good way to fix this outside of locking the kid up...which tragically his mother was trying to do for people's safety and his benefit but it just did not get paid for.

Prison has a mental ward.