Current Events > Al Sharpton says the student protests have "lost the message".

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Do you have a source for this or are you just making it up?

some of the alleged demonstrators unaffiliated with Columbia were active in the Occupy Wall Street protests of 2011, the 2020 so-called "autonomous zone" protests in Minneapolis, Minnesota following the police killing of George Floyd, and the ongoing Stop Cop City demonstrations opposing a police training facility in Atlanta.

https://tinyurl.com/ynpfyzbd

Sounds like wishful thinking.

So right wing plants.

Rev. Al Sharpton was sharply rebuked by MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski Thursday after likening the ongoing anti-Israel campus protests nationwide to the Jan. 6 Capitol riots

Holy shit. Even Mika said it was wrong and I thought she was a chud too

Al Sharpton has always been a clown.

Do you have a source for this or are you just making it up?

No idea about career protesters, but it is true that a TON of the protesters were not from the schools: https://nypost.com/2024/05/02/us-news/nearly-half-of-anti-israel-protesters-arrested-at-columbia-city-college-werent-students/

The violent and genocidal counter-protesters that escalated the situation were extremely horrible, for sure, but there is a problem here....depending on which side of things you are on you see a very skewed perspective and narrative. For example this board says that the protests were nice and peaceful then a bunch of bigoted counter-protesters got violent and ruined it. They will signal boost the worst of the counter-protesters (Who are awful, no doubt) but did not post the article about all the anti-semitic behavior that the Columbia students were facing this week (They might not even be protesters themselves, but there is still a narrative missing about the anti-semitism that came along with these protests) so much that a rabbi affiliated with the school said they were not safe and recommended they go home. And Im sure many on the pro-Israel did not see the violent clip of the counter-protesters (my mom had not seen that, only the stuff from the protesters).

Got a better source? Eric Adams, the cops and the NY Post all are unreliable.

Mika was never a Trump supporter.....

"I suggest to CNN, and maybe some of my colleagues here, take your cameras - just for a moment - off of Colombia and off UCLA. Maybe go to Gaza. Take your camera and show us the emaciated children who are dying of malnutrition because of Netanyahu's policies. Show us the kids who have lost their arms and their legs. Show us the suffering that's going on over there." - Bernie Sanders

well if the cops are not a good source I dont know what source you could possibly want? Nobody else has the information except them lol.

another problem with these things though (in both sides) is anybody is only going to believe the narrative they already believe and everything else is propaganda. Its scary because we cant even agree on reality anymore. Of course every side believes theyre right and viciously hates the other. They live in a reality very different from the other side.

I dont know what we can do about this as a society. But it does make discourse impossible.

Cops saying a thing, not a good source. The actual data that exists and may corroborate or contradict the cops? That's actually useful.

Not my fault that cops lie about shit all the time and have poisoned the well on their trustworthiness.

If nearly half of arrests have factually been non-students then there's arrest records to prove this. Give those records to a trustworthy news source so they can report on it.

Later on in the show, Sharpton said, How do the Democrats, how do all of us on that side say January 6 was wrong if you can have the same pictures going on on college campuses? You lose the moral high ground.

Fuck Al Sharpton. Even the black community stopped trusting him years ago

I've always wondered how things would be now if Civil Rights leaders like Malcolm X, MLK, and Fred Hampton had lived. Instead we got stuck with guys like Sharpton after all great ones died.

Those three men didn't just die though, they were deliberately murdered

Fred Hampton and Malcolm X were directly murdered by the state. MLK probably was too although the evidence isn't quite as concrete.

well if the cops are not a good source I dont know what source you could possibly want? Nobody else has the information except them lol.

another problem with these things though (in both sides) is anybody is only going to believe the narrative they already believe and everything else is propaganda. Its scary because we cant even agree on reality anymore. Of course every side believes theyre right and viciously hates the other. They live in a reality very different from the other side.

I dont know what we can do about this as a society. But it does make discourse impossible.

Al Sharpton legitimizing a domestic terrorist attack (1/6) by suggesting it was ever a protest.

Oh believe me, I know. It has always led me to believe that Jackson and Sharpton were spared that fate because the feds didn't view them as radical enough to be a threat.

Yeah I've noticed the same people who were the most vocal about J6 being bad(it absolutely was) are now minimizing it to bash the protests.

These people hate the left and Palestinians more than they do the far right if they say this.

He's not wrong tbh

.....I'm sure those type of people exist. But there's also people that exist that are against all protests that damage property or violent. That includes protests you deem justified to damage property.

It's not just people against the left or Palestinians that don't like protests that damage properly or violent. If you are attempting to imply that anyone and all who isn't supporting protestors who chose to damage property or got violent also all minimize J6, that's just not true.

nah there are large amounts of liberals. especially khive types who absolutely act the way i say people do.

there's no reason for a supposed liberal to equate j6 with these protestors unless they hate palestinians or the left more than they do the j6/unite the right crowd

The fact remains everyone there are plentiful amount of people who do not support the protestors who are violent and damaging property, and doesn't also hate the the left or Palestinians more than Jan6ers.

Can you post some examples of the violent pro-Palestine protesters? Because the only violence I have seen was from police and counter-protestors. Might be bias in the local news here (Japan has a massively low opinion of Israel and did even before the current situation), but I haven't seen any videos online either of the violent pro-Palestine protestors in the US.

But there are plenty of people. The doom arts. The covxys. The rebelelites that have been the most vocal people against J6 and are now minimizing what Israel has done and absolutely agree with what Sharpton is saying.

I'm not saying all of them are like that. But these people exist.

And they are far far more influential than us online folks.

The original post you quoted literally says those type of people exist. Those type of people existing doesn't mean they are the majority.

However agreeing with Sharpton on the idea that violent protestors who damage property isn't something to get behind, doesn't mean you hate the left or Palestinians, or think they are worse than Jan6ers. Neither does it minimize what Israel is doing, just because you like destructive protestors methods.

You can support a cause while not supporting a method to support a cause. Those two things are not mutual, just because you like the method.

I do want to note, I'm not saying most protestors are violent and destructive just in case that isn't clear.

If this is at me, Im not saying most or all of the Palestinian college protestors are violent or damaging property for the record.

I'm only talking about protestors who are doing such things. Regardless of what type of protest it is. Since some believe such acts are justified, and if you don't support such acts, "then you must hate Palestinians, the left more than Jan6ers."

Simply put, not everyone is down for whatever method a group of people choose to protest. Regardless if they support the main thing you support, that doesnt mean by default they have to also support your methods.

Al Sharpton Likens Student Protests to Jan. 6 Capitol Riots: Theyve Lost the Message

literally the premise of the topic. Now are you going to stop?

Large amounts of this board are blatantly easily duped by RW propaganda.

This topic is proof.

Speaking strictly to the minority (if any) of protestors who are damaging property or being violent, the violent/destructive ones methods being likened to the Jan6ers isn't wrong.