Current Events > Hamas accepts ceasefire deal

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The point isnt to kill every potential Hamas member

Right, Israel has a history of breaking ceasefires and lobbing rockets without any notice into peaceful settlements.

Iran (and Yemen and Syria) don't so much support the Palestinians as much as they really hate Israel. If they could sacrifice the Palestinians to destroy Israel, they would not hesitate. In fact, maybe that's why they like Hamas so much...

I also don't know how "for every one hostage we return you'll give us 50 prisoners and also you'll leave and also rebuild and also we get to stay in power and also lift your blockade against us" is generous in any way to Israel.

Maybe because those prisoners are not arrested on legitimate charges in the first place; Israel has no moral authority to be in Palestine; it's their fault that a rebuild is needed; and they have no right to implement a blockade in the first place?

You're basing this off what exactly?

Some of them are in jail for literal murder.

And the vast majority are in there for nothing beyond being Palestinian.

what the fuck do you think they're doing

I also don't know how "for every one hostage we return you'll give us 50 prisoners and also you'll leave and also rebuild and also we get to stay in power and also lift your blockade against us" is generous in any way to Israel.

And the vast majority are in there for nothing beyond being Palestinian. And you know that; deferring to the rare example of a legit prisoner doesn't change shit.

Waging war in Gaza for the purposes of regime change

The purpose isn't regime change. The purpose is ethnic cleansing.

Their words and actions?

Sure thing buddy. Aren't you a little old to be living on campus?

The point isnt to kill every potential Hamas member, but to disarm and disempower them.

Policing will not be done by the locals, though some matters of civil life can be addressed by the locals through the PA.

Any examples?

But they could always do this new thing called "surrender", and spare their people the pain that comes with bloodshed.

Good thing they said some prisoners.

Looks like the Trumble lost.

What would the palestinians stand to gain with surrendering? A miserable life ad aeternum? What for?

What would the palestinians stand to gain with surrendering?

they intend to kill every palestinian.

Indiscriminately attacking ships? Slavery? Child soldiers? Ethnic cleansing?

Don't conflate hamas with all Palestinian people

Don't conflate hamas with all Palestinian people

Last i heard, the majority of palestinians were in support of Hamas, even those who weren't before the war started.

It's only generous to Israel if you actually believe that Hamas means a word they say about promising to stop attacking Israel and admitting they have a right to exist.

Last i heard, the majority of palestinians were in support of Hamas, even those who weren't before the war started. Even the people on the west bank now hate the so called palestinian authority and openly scream for Hamas.

1. skeptical considering half the population are literal children
2. gee I fuckin wonder why

Ok. That doesn't make them combatants genius.

And they aren't. But they will be. If they don't fight for themselves, no one else will.

The point isnt to kill every potential Hamas member, but to disarm and disempower them.

skeptical considering half the population are literal children

gee I f***in wonder why

1. skeptical considering half the population are literal children
2. gee I fuckin wonder why

maybe Israel should back off instead of giving an entire generation even more reason to hate them, then.

They should. But they won't. Not when they have the backup (or, rather, full support) of the great US and A, champions of justice and liberty.

Even though many people with power in Israel openly call for genocide?

Just going to throw random words out there, huh?

I mean they kind of have by this point. IDF claims they've eliminated 20/24 hamas battalions.

The IDF is probably a less trustworthy source then fucking Alex Jones.

The shit I just took is worth more then their word.

Sure. But if they claim their objective is to stop hamas from having operational capacity then they are essentially on record already admitting that they did.

Sure. But if they claim their objective is to stop hamas from having operational capacity then they are essentially on record already admitting that they did.

Or if people like the poster I responded to want to make that claim.

Look up a news report on the Houthi.

You wont, but you should.

You talk about them as if no one knows who they are. It's irrelevant to your original point where you claim that the countries don't care about the Palestinians. Hell, that point itself is irrelevant in the face of israel committing genocide. Seems like you're just trying to find an excuse for it.

It is extremely relevant, because it explains why Israel, surrounded by Arab countries, can get away with brutalizing the Palestinians for decades. The Arabs kept Palestinians in refugee camps as a bargaining chip, got the UN to literally change the definition of refugee to support their efforts, lost a few wars, and then decided maybe it would be better if everybody (except Palestinians) made money instead. That's not excusing for Israel; that's an explanation for why the larger ethnostates in the region allow it to happen. They simply don't care.

and this bullshit explanation is why you think israel is justified in its campaign of genocide?

Sure thing buddy. Aren't you a little old to be living on campus?