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Stallion_Prime
05/09/24 12:44:20 AM
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I still don't understand how Trump is still able to run after doing all the illegal shit he did

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action52
05/09/24 12:50:34 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
You see that "logic" from a LOT of people who do nothing but criticize the left. It's always about how Republicans are scum of the earth and will destroy everything and you can't reason with them.... But they're not going to vote for Democrats because they want to teach them a lesson.
They won't vote in primaries, they won't vote downballot, they won't show up for off year elections... And then they get all surprised Pikachu when the presidential candidates don't represent them in any way.

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ButteryMales
05/09/24 1:03:42 AM
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Stallion_Prime posted...
I still don't understand how Trump is still able to run after doing all the illegal shit he did
Laws were not made with social media in mind.
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ButteryMales
05/09/24 1:11:34 AM
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action52 posted...
They won't vote in primaries, they won't vote downballot, they won't show up for off year elections... And then they get all surprised Pikachu when the presidential candidates don't represent them in any way.
First past the post and the electoral college are bad systems that gives power to conservatives. Fighting against nature has never been described as easy.
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action52
05/09/24 1:51:47 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
First past the post and the electoral college are bad systems that gives power to conservatives. Fighting against nature has never been described as easy.
Who said it was easy? And how are we going to change things if no one even tries?

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El_Dustino
05/09/24 1:52:58 AM
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We should spend less energy being angry at the liberals and more energy convincing people to vote for Biden even if it sucks because the alternative is so much worse.

I feel a good amount of leftists already get this, it's more the terminally online ones who don't.

This election sucks, but it's extremely important.

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ButteryMales
05/09/24 2:01:39 AM
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action52 posted...
Who said it was easy? And how are we going to change things if no one even tries?
At some point we have to accept that a leopard cannot change its spots.
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action52
05/09/24 2:02:47 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
At some point we have to accept that a leopard cannot change its spots.
You didn't answer my question. How do you propose we change things?


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ButteryMales
05/09/24 2:08:22 AM
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action52 posted...
You didn't answer my question. How do you propose we change things?
I did answer your question. I don't propose changing a leopard's spots.

We have to just wait until a supermajority comes and hope new Joe Manchins don't fuck it up like the blue dog democrats.
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mistymermaid
05/09/24 2:14:41 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
At some point we have to accept that a leopard cannot change its spots.

However difficult it might be to compel existing fascists to reevaluate themselves, we can recognize how people discover fascism and dissuade future generations from sinking into it.

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ButteryMales
05/09/24 2:24:16 AM
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mistymermaid posted...
However difficult it might be to compel existing fascists to reevaluate themselves, we can recognize how people discover fascism and dissuade future generations from sinking into it.
People are just saying vote for the blue fascist to avoid the red one.
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action52
05/09/24 2:24:26 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
We have to just wait until a supermajority comes and hope new Joe Manchins don't fuck it up like the blue dog democrats.
Wait around and eventually a supermajority will come along and fix everything. No need to participate in primaries or downballlot elections, a supermajority that supports our interests will just appear even without our participation.

Brilliant!

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BDSMKane
05/09/24 2:26:53 AM
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As a Centrist, Im going to confirm the topic is inflammatory bait and not a view any real Centrist would ever hold.

On another note, its fairly aggravating that the same people who talk about the Overton Window and how the US has no left leaning party, still somehow think Centrist is centered between Dem and Rep. Then theres the whole Y axis thats usually ignored for some odd reason, maybe narrative, I dont know.

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sfcalimari
05/09/24 2:29:11 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
i mean earlier in this thread TC went as far as saying that its just the natural state of things that republicans are villains (post 35, comparing them to fictional villains who enacted genocide/rampant war etc) so somehow that means the buck stops with liberals somehow

And reminding everyone of what the average conservative thinks about Jews.

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mistymermaid
05/09/24 2:29:47 AM
#66:


action52 posted...
Wait around and eventually a supermajority will come along and fix everything. No need to participate in primaries or downballlot elections, a supermajority that supports our interests will just appear even without our participation.

Brilliant!

I have that user tagged.

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Mecha_Sonic
05/09/24 2:33:45 AM
#67:


El_Dustino posted...
We should spend less energy being angry at the liberals and more energy convincing people to vote for Biden even if it sucks because the alternative is so much worse.

a better argument would be that biden doesn't suck and he's actually been a really good president, which is the truth

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ButteryMales
05/09/24 2:35:39 AM
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action52 posted...
Wait around and eventually a supermajority will come along and fix everything. No need to participate in primaries or downballlot elections, a supermajority that supports our interests will just appear even without our participation.

Brilliant!
Vote for a genocide now because that will somehow show that we don't like genocide later.

I'll vote down ballot just to maybe keep congress and I won't vote for president.
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El_Dustino
05/09/24 2:37:51 AM
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Mecha_Sonic posted...
a better argument would be that biden doesn't suck and he's actually been a really good president, which is the truth
He had a good start, was rough for a while, was coming back pretty strong last year until October, where he started repeatedly shooting himself in the feet.

Lying and saying that Biden's handling of Gaza has been anything but disastrous isn't going to do anyone any good.

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BDSMKane
05/09/24 2:41:06 AM
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sfcalimari posted...
And reminding everyone of what the average conservative thinks about Jews.
Average? Probably not what you think. Never met a conservative or Republican who had a problem with Jewish or black people.

LGBTQ+? Yeah, Ive met them, theyre frequently uncomfortable with at least part of that community. People who are not trying to legally immigrate? Also a group the average righties dont like. But Jews? Only from far right extremists, and Ive never met one of those uniform wearing clowns in person.

Now I have met some right conspiracy theorists who have an issue with Israel. But thats where their problem begins and ends, and it has nothing to do with Jews. If anything, current events should finally make some open minded people realize you can be critical of Israel without being a supremacist.

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ForsakenHermit
05/09/24 2:46:47 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Shut up


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Heineken14
05/09/24 2:47:47 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
At some point we have to accept that a leopard cannot change its spots.

Right on cue.

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ButteryMales
05/09/24 2:56:20 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Right on cue.
I tried posting in this about two days ago and I got a message it was deleted.

Does anyone know if TC remade it or won an appeal?
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mistymermaid
05/09/24 2:58:59 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Right on cue.

Hasn't he read that notorious Lee Atwater interview? Today's far right is frequently more surreptitious, encoding their shit in lingo.

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ButteryMales
05/09/24 3:02:26 AM
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mistymermaid posted...
Hasn't he read that notorious Lee Atwater interview? Today's far right is frequently more surreptitious, encoding their shit in lingo.
I've mentioned the southern strategy has never went away multiple times. The electoral college favoring Republicans comes from the southern strategy.
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mistymermaid
05/09/24 3:11:17 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
I've mentioned the southern strategy has never went away multiple times. The electoral college favoring Republicans comes from the southern strategy.

It connects to what that other poster was saying. I'm skeptical that groups such as Jews and black people, are as safe as it appears on the surface.

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DarthAragorn
05/09/24 3:14:07 AM
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BDSMKane posted...
Never met a conservative or Republican who had a problem with Jewish or black people.

You know how we can tell you're full of shit?


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mistymermaid
05/09/24 3:19:25 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
You know how we can tell you're full of shit?

You can see a big difference between him and me.

No, I've never *witnessed* antisemitism. No, I've never (knowingly) met a Jew in my life.

But that's not downplaying the threat to them.

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BDSMKane
05/09/24 3:28:14 AM
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mistymermaid posted...
I'm skeptical that groups such as Jews and black people, are as safe as it appears on the surface.
If you mean me as the other poster, I can only speak to my observations and mainstream opinions. Im in central TX and have seen how known conservatives/Republicans interact with an elderly Jewish lady I help. As an anecdote, when we had that freeze a few years back, her best friends ex-husband and his new wife let her stay in their spare room because they still had power and she had no power or water. Even the only still-Trumper I know just repainted her house this year.

Ive never felt or seen animosity from the average ones. One of them even said to me recentlyactually, Ill post part of the conversation. Ill freely admit I was trying to screw with him when I found out Mexico is the closest place for women to go for legal clinical abortions (because it pissed me off). So I texted him some bait and this is eventually where the conversation went. Im not saying I agree with him at all, or his belief that the abortion law is an extremist reaction to extreme Dem laws (how he views 9 month abortions being legal). But its still candid insight from a still-Trumper.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3b0715ef.jpg

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BDSMKane
05/09/24 3:35:10 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
You know how we can tell you're full of
Since Im not and I actually live the life with the exposure every day, it sounds like you got a personal problem. I mean I literally just posted a clip of a private conversation, and it looks like youre an anonymous nobody whos just going to try and snipe at me. Im sure the majority will still side with you because they dont like what Im saying, but thats also not my problem, Im doing the best I can for open dialogue. What are you contributing?

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MICHALECOLE
05/09/24 3:41:09 AM
#81:


MICHALECOLE posted...
Shut up
This guy was right in the first place, we should have just listened to him
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Heineken14
05/09/24 5:59:03 AM
#82:


BDSMKane posted...
If you mean me as the other poster, I can only speak to my observations and mainstream opinions. Im in central TX and have seen how known conservatives/Republicans interact with an elderly Jewish lady I help. As an anecdote, when we had that freeze a few years back, her best friends ex-husband and his new wife let her stay in their spare room because they still had power and she had no power or water. Even the only still-Trumper I know just repainted her house this year.

Ive never felt or seen animosity from the average ones. One of them even said to me recentlyactually, Ill post part of the conversation. Ill freely admit I was trying to screw with him when I found out Mexico is the closest place for women to go for legal clinical abortions (because it pissed me off). So I texted him some bait and this is eventually where the conversation went. Im not saying I agree with him at all, or his belief that the abortion law is an extremist reaction to extreme Dem laws (how he views 9 month abortions being legal). But its still candid insight from a still-Trumper.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3b0715ef.jpg

So like, that's the problem with what "the average republican" says versus what they do exactly right there. You can only take these people's actions and those actions don't line up with what they claim to say. Even that little snippet right there has so much wrong to it.

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Diceheist
05/09/24 6:10:47 AM
#83:


Rika_Furude posted...
If republicans are elected and enact fascism then its the republicans and non-voters fault.

It's odd to blame non-voters who had no involvement with the process but not also extend blame to those who did a bad job fighting.

Mecha_Sonic posted...


a better argument would be that biden doesn't suck and he's actually been a really good president, which is the truth

Not everyone's gonna agree with that. Some people believe he was soft on executive orders, mismanaged his legislative leverage, and ordered subpar foreign policy.

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BDSMKane
05/09/24 6:42:44 AM
#84:


Heineken14 posted...
So like, that's the problem with what "the average republican" says versus what they do exactly right there. You can only take these people's actions and those actions don't line up with what they claim to say. Even that little snippet right there has so much wrong to it.
Not going to hear me defending hypocrisy. I know for a fact hell take a swing at racists who try to talk that ideology. But when I ask him how he can justify knowing theyre voting for the same guy, its I cant help who they vote for.

I genuinely cant understand how he believes Trump is still the right guy, but I also know hes seen a lot of stuff no one should, and theres a lot of herbal assistance helping him get through the day and sleep. I generally just assume his brain isnt quite working right anymore.

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05/09/24 11:03:20 AM
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mistymermaid
05/09/24 11:50:59 AM
#85:


BDSMKane posted...
If you mean me as the other poster, I can only speak to my observations and mainstream opinions. Im in central TX and have seen how known conservatives/Republicans interact with an elderly Jewish lady I help. As an anecdote, when we had that freeze a few years back, her best friends ex-husband and his new wife let her stay in their spare room because they still had power and she had no power or water. Even the only still-Trumper I know just repainted her house this year.

Ive never felt or seen animosity from the average ones. One of them even said to me recentlyactually, Ill post part of the conversation. Ill freely admit I was trying to screw with him when I found out Mexico is the closest place for women to go for legal clinical abortions (because it pissed me off). So I texted him some bait and this is eventually where the conversation went. Im not saying I agree with him at all, or his belief that the abortion law is an extremist reaction to extreme Dem laws (how he views 9 month abortions being legal). But its still candid insight from a still-Trumper.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3b0715ef.jpg

Much of it is lower key, dancing around to avoid admitting their real opinion.

When I last attempted to talk to a conservative on this board, they refused to actually tell me their beliefs, resulting in a nothingburger of a conversation.

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lolife67
05/09/24 11:58:49 AM
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Y'all will literally take the bait every single time.
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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
05/09/24 12:09:06 PM
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luigi33 posted...
purged

If the democrats lose, some form of this will happen. And when they come for you, because people never spoke out for everyone else enough BEFORE it gets to purging people who ever said bad things about republicans online in the past, we can all remember that, as much hyperbole as you may make, it is still incredibly scary what they (the right wing politicians) wish to do.

When one lies around in leopard enclosure while wearing a bottomless food bowl mask on their face, one should expect the leopards to do as they will. But one also must try to stop too many dumb people from going into that pen, lest the leopard get strong enough from its victims powers that it then busts out of the cage and is now free to feast upon the faces of those not responsible.


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mistymermaid
05/09/24 12:13:31 PM
#88:


action52 posted...
You didn't answer my question. How do you propose we change things?

He's suspended.

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BDSMKane
05/09/24 12:28:38 PM
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mistymermaid posted...
When I last attempted to talk to a conservative on this board, they refused to actually tell me their beliefs, resulting in a nothingburger of a conversation.
I know this is beating a dead horse, but I take the expressed opinions of most on an anonymous message board as seriously as a red rubber nose; especially when theyre refusing to even attempt genuine dialogue. I think someone named Sheamus back on 261 is a perfect examplealways ended posts with Just sayin. He was clearly a joke account, who would refuse to ever concede anything, just because it riled people up.

The only reason I was willing to elaborate personally in a couple of replies is because I recognize names of people who seemed to engage in honest communication. People talking trash online isnt surprising or scaryits the fact our culture has shifted in response to it.

But I do get your point. There are real monsters online who do use the internet as a place to propagate their hate. How do you know whos trolling and whos a genuine threat? No one can tell, and when youre unable to distinguish threat from falsehood, you have to treat everyone as a potential danger.

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mistymermaid
05/09/24 12:44:49 PM
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Some people just don't want an olive branch. If one is content with being a monster, not much I can do about that. But I'm not going to let them forget there's a choice to denounce conservatism.

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Cemith
05/09/24 1:29:37 PM
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This. Bye

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luigi33
05/09/24 1:32:21 PM
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Not sure what you guys problem is with me. I'm the most pragmatic one here. I already said I'm voting for Biden while holding my nose. But he's fucking himself and us over by supporting genocide. And, for this reason, if we lose. I'm 100% blaming Biden and his administration.

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SauI_Goodman
05/09/24 1:37:39 PM
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If he loses who gets the blame? Not that it really matters.

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mistymermaid
05/09/24 1:39:21 PM
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He's acting like ButteryMales is his alt.

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UnholyMudcrab
05/09/24 1:42:44 PM
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Now he's warned, lmao

Didn't he literally just come off another warning?

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Cemith
05/09/24 2:15:43 PM
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luigi33 posted...
Not sure what you guys problem is with me. I'm the most pragmatic one here. I already said I'm voting for Biden while holding my nose. But he's fucking himself and us over by supporting genocide. And, for this reason, if we lose. I'm 100% blaming Biden and his administration.

Are you ButteryMales?


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Toonstrack
05/09/24 3:42:43 PM
#100:


lolife67 posted...
Y'all will literally take the bait every single time.

A lot of CE users will never outright say this but they really really like to argue snd will take any opportunity to do so.

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