Current Events > This 1938 Disney rejection letter to a woman applying for an apprentice position

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This is an interesting relic to see just how accepted and widespread sexism was.

was implies stuff like this is not still happening

Simpler times

/s in case it wasnt obvious

Wasn't there just backlash a couple months ago Greta Gerwig didn't get nominated for Best Director at Oscars. Women getting snubbed and left out still happens. You don't have to go back to the 1930s.

AceMos posted...

was implies stuff like this is not still happening

I mean, not openly.

BlueTigerLion posted...

Wasn't there just backlash a couple months ago Greta Gerwig didn't get nominated for Best Director at Oscars. Women getting snubbed and left out still happens. You don't have to go back to the 1930s.

There's a lot of space between "this creative woman arguably didn't get the recognition she deserves" and "you're not allowed to be a creative because you're a woman". Sexism is still a problem, but the progress made shouldn't be discounted.

Funny that she had to specify that work was performed by young men instead of just men

These days companies wouldn't even bother with a rejection letter. They like it that way because there's less chance for litigation if there's only a nebulous lack of response on their part.

action52 posted...

I mean, not openly.

it does still happen

not in a written letter

but sexist men during a interview can poit blank say your a woman we wont hire you

and there is nothing that can be done about it

as odds are the woman wont have the money to hire a lawyer

AceMos posted...

there is nothing that can be done about it

Well, if you're in a state that allows for 'one party consent for recording' then you could supply evidence against the person doing the hiring. At which point the company would just push that person under the bus and continue on as usual.

This was only 18 years after women got the right to vote. I imagine if someone tried to sue for this back then they wouldn't even get a day in court.

AceMos posted...

it does still happen

not in a written letter

but sexist men during a interview can poit blank say your a woman we wont hire you

and there is nothing that can be done about it

as odds are the woman wont have the money to hire a lawyer

a lot of lawyers will take it knowing its an easy windfall. They dont need the money upfront

AceMos posted...

it does still happen

not in a written letter

but sexist men during a interview can poit blank say your a woman we wont hire you

and there is nothing that can be done about it

as odds are the woman wont have the money to hire a lawyer

No they can't. Learn the law.

That is disheartening.

In contrast, I cant apply for a job as a Hooters waitress though. Down with the matriarchy!

divot1338 posted...

In contrast, I cant apply for a job as a Hooters waitress though. Down with the matriarchy!

Hooters waitresses are legally classified as entertainers and are thus subject to different rules.

AceMos posted...

it does still happen

but sexist men during a interview can poit blank say your a woman we wont hire you

and there is nothing that can be done about it

as odds are the woman wont have the money to hire a lawyer

What you are saying definitely isn't common, but instead an outlier as only a dumb company or dumbass activist employee would openly do this.

Even if the people at the top dont like a specific group of people, if anything a smart company is more likely to use one of the many low hanging loop holes that doesn't even need a company to lawyer up. Loop holes that doesn't even need for a company to inform you they don't want you because of your race, gender, sexual preference, etc.

I'm not saying discrimination in the work place against woman, non whites, LGBT, etc doesn't happen. Im sure thats common. I'm just saying a company blatantly informing a candidate, we don't hire woman or something? Definitely an outlier done by an idiot asking to either be fired or introduce unwanted legal action against the company.

boomgetchopped3 posted...

Funny that she had to specify that work was performed by young men instead of just men

Also just how internalized the sexism was.

BlueTigerLion posted...

Wasn't there just backlash a couple months ago Greta Gerwig didn't get nominated for Best Director at Oscars. Women getting snubbed and left out still happens. You don't have to go back to the 1930s.

That was bullhshit. That movie was in no way snubbed. And ppl acting like it was down played minority women getting highlighted for their great works.

We had grandparents alive at this time.

darkace77450 posted...

Hooters waitresses are legally classified as entertainers and are thus subject to different rules.

It's a clever way to circumvent some laws, and as to the other post, Disney are unfortunately pretty shrewd at finding loopholes. Hell I recently discovered what was Disney's whole 65-episode season thing about.

saspa posted...

It's a clever way to circumvent some laws, and as to the other post, Disney are unfortunately pretty shrewd at finding loopholes. Hell I recently discovered what was Disney's whole 65-episode season thing about.

Just stupid executives being stupid executives with that one.

For some reason I thought it was her 1,938th rejection letter. I was like take a hint.

"women aren't allowed to do this work. that's why we only let men do it. it's a viscous cycle"

thronedfire2 posted...

it's a viscous cycle

Because of the ink?

DrizztLink posted...

Because of the ink?

I considered fixing the typo but I hoped at least one person would get it

thank you.

I think all companies, and maybe even universities, should send out rejection letters with the 7 Dwarves smiling at you. Would lessen the blow.

Imagine if she would have changed the history of animation. Maybe in a non sexist timeline, she goes on to become a legendary figure

divot1338 posted...

In contrast, I cant apply for a job as a Hooters waitress though. Down with the matriarchy!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/070110d6.jpg

divot1338 posted...

In contrast, I cant apply for a job as a Hooters waitress though. Down with the matriarchy!

but they won't deny you for your gender. they'll just deny you for not being attractive enough in the uniform