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Aloc 05/15/24 10:24:12 AM #1:	Assuming the courier didn't get involved. 1. The ncr is spread out too thin. They couldn't even deal with fiends near McCarran and their president is killed without the courier. 2. House doesn't have the chip. 3. Benny can't activate the securitron army anyways. It's below a legion camp. So the legion who brought most of their army would have destroyed the NCR at hoover dam right. --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:980403600] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Assuming the courier didn't get involved.1. The ncr is spread out too thin. They couldn't even deal with fiends near McCarran and their president is killed without the courier. 2. House doesn't have the chip.3. Benny can't activate the securitron army anyways. It's below a legion camp.So the legion who brought most of their army would have destroyed the NCR at hoover dam right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 05/15/24 10:24:44 AM #2:	Even if they did they'd fall to infighting sooner rather than later. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:980403606] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Even if they did they'd fall to infighting sooner rather than later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devilanse333 05/15/24 10:27:19 AM #3:	Caesars Legion wou... game crashes --- XBOX Live Gamertag: DevilAnse33v2 PSN: DevilAnse33 <cite>Devilanse333 posted [p:980403642] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Caesars Legion wou...game crashes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 05/15/24 10:28:14 AM #4:	Caesar's death via brain tumor is imminent without the Courier's involvement, so like Murph said the Legion's victory would be short-lived even if they did succeed. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:980403653] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Caesar's death via brain tumor is imminent without the Courier's involvement, so like Murph said the Legion's victory would be short-lived even if they did succeed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 05/15/24 10:28:36 AM #5:	It's an objective you lose and sour is better Sorry --- updated 5/22/2023 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1568-100-presidents <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:980403655] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>It's an objective you lose and sour is betterSorry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc 05/15/24 10:28:39 AM #6:	Murphiroth posted... Even if they did they'd fall to infighting sooner rather than later. Sure but the NCR would have been routed out at Vegas. Maybe in a few decades the NCR recovers. But not without a massive loss. --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:980403656] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>Even if they did they'd fall to infighting sooner rather than later.</quote>Sure but the NCR would have been routed out at Vegas.Maybe in a few decades the NCR recovers.But not without a massive loss. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 05/15/24 10:29:09 AM #7:	nah, i'd win --- Tear it out and your luster will be frozen <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:980403664] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>nah, i'd win </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 05/15/24 10:30:59 AM #8:	It's really one of those situations where nobody would have won. I guess maybe Mr. House would have ended up on top after all is said and done. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:980403697] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>It's really one of those situations where nobody would have won.I guess maybe Mr. House would have ended up on top after all is said and done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ironman2009 05/15/24 10:31:06 AM #9:	Caesar has brain cancer that mf woulda died in bed then the legion would have ripped itself apart before the end of the war. --- THRILLHO <cite>ironman2009 posted [p:980403699] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Caesar has brain cancer that mf woulda died in bed then the legion would have ripped itself apart before the end of the war. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 05/15/24 10:31:55 AM #10:	Yeah, as already mentioned, Caesar's death will end up screwing the Legion. It will either split like the Empire of old, or be splintered into various warring factions. Maybe NV becomes the capital of the Western Legion. If House somehow survives, he probably gets back control in the end even if it takes decades. Even if Caesar gets the surgery in time, he still has to die someday. Seems like both major factions are inevitably doomed. Then again, maybe NCR could eke out a win out of sure luck. They also probably have better tactics, more men, and are more armed. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:980403711] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, as already mentioned, Caesar's death will end up screwing the Legion. It will either split like the Empire of old, or be splintered into various warring factions. Maybe NV becomes the capital of the Western Legion. If House somehow survives, he probably gets back control in the end even if it takes decades. Even if Caesar gets the surgery in time, he still has to die someday. Seems like both major factions are inevitably doomed.Then again, maybe NCR could eke out a win out of sure luck. They also probably have better tactics, more men, and are more armed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc 05/15/24 10:34:37 AM #11:	ironman2009 posted... Caesar has brain cancer that mf woulda died in bed then the legion would have ripped itself apart before the end of the war. Even if Caesar dies the battle of Hoover Dam happens with Lanius leading. Did you even finish the game? --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:980403754] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>ironman2009 posted... </cite><quote>Caesar has brain cancer that mf woulda died in bed then the legion would have ripped itself apart before the end of the war.</quote>Even if Caesar dies the battle of Hoover Dam happens with Lanius leading.Did you even finish the game? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 05/15/24 10:35:51 AM #12:	Aloc posted... Even if Caesar dies the battle of Hoover Dam happens with Lanius leading. Did you even finish the game? Doesn't the game make it a point to mention that Lanius is incapable of leading the Legion to any sort of real victory? --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:980403772] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Aloc posted... </cite><quote>Even if Caesar dies the battle of Hoover Dam happens with Lanius leading.Did you even finish the game?</quote>Doesn't the game make it a point to mention that Lanius is incapable of leading the Legion to any sort of real victory? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 05/15/24 10:38:12 AM #13:	Sure, the Legion might push the NCR out of the Mojave, but the NCR would be fine in California. They'd return one day. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:980403802] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Sure, the Legion might push the NCR out of the Mojave, but the NCR would be fine in California. They'd return one day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 05/15/24 10:38:32 AM #14:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... Sure, the Legion might push the NCR out of the Mojave, but the NCR would be fine in California. They'd return one day. And in greater numbers --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:980403811] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>Sure, the Legion might push the NCR out of the Mojave, but the NCR would be fine in California. They'd return one day.</quote>And in greater numbers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 05/15/24 10:39:13 AM #15:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Doesn't the game make it a point to mention that Lanius is incapable of leading the Legion to any sort of real victory? Yes. They might win the Battle of Hoover Dam but they're absolutely going to fall apart soon after. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:980403817] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>Doesn't the game make it a point to mention that Lanius is incapable of leading the Legion to any sort of real victory?</quote>Yes. They might win the Battle of Hoover Dam but they're absolutely going to fall apart soon after. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc 05/15/24 10:39:55 AM #16:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Doesn't the game make it a point to mention that Lanius is incapable of leading the Legion to any sort of real victory? Oh my God. I'm talking about the short term. Not the long term. The game said he was a capable commander but not an administrator like Caesar. --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:980403828] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>Doesn't the game make it a point to mention that Lanius is incapable of leading the Legion to any sort of real victory?</quote>Oh my God.I'm talking about the short term.Not the long term.The game said he was a capable commander but not an administrator like Caesar. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc 05/15/24 10:40:15 AM #17:	Murphiroth posted... Yes. They might win the Battle of Hoover Dam but they're absolutely going to fall apart soon after. Aloc posted... army would have destroyed the NCR at hoover dam right. --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:980403830] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>Yes.They might win the Battle of Hoover Dam but they're absolutely going to fall apart soon after.</quote>Aloc posted... </cite><quote>army would have destroyed the NCR at hoover dam right.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 05/15/24 10:42:19 AM #18:	Yes, that was the initial discussion, Aloc, it's moved on now. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:980403859] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Yes, that was the initial discussion, Aloc, it's moved on now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 05/15/24 10:46:17 AM #19:	Aloc posted... Even if Caesar dies the battle of Hoover Dam happens with Lanius leading. Did you even finish the game? Granted, the game accounts for this because the game still needs to happen, but you're introducing the hypothetical removal of the Courier as a factor, which causes all sorts of unforeseen consequences. At the very least the Courier is a major accelerating factor for the 2nd Battle of Hoover Dam, so it's safe to assume that things would move on a slower timeframe without their involvement. It's stated more than once that Lanius loves Caesar but hates his Legion, so if Caesar dies or becomes incapable of leading before the Legion is ready to mount their offensive, it's no guarantee that Lanius would be able to lead effectively or even be motivated to lead without Caesar's guidance. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:980403906] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Aloc posted... </cite><quote>Even if Caesar dies the battle of Hoover Dam happens with Lanius leading.Did you even finish the game?</quote>Granted, the game accounts for this because the game still needs to happen, but you're introducing the hypothetical removal of the Courier as a factor, which causes all sorts of unforeseen consequences. At the very least the Courier is a major accelerating factor for the 2nd Battle of Hoover Dam, so it's safe to assume that things would move on a slower timeframe without their involvement. It's stated more than once that Lanius loves Caesar but hates his Legion, so if Caesar dies or becomes incapable of leading before the Legion is ready to mount their offensive, it's no guarantee that Lanius would be able to lead effectively or even be motivated to lead without Caesar's guidance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDF-5 05/15/24 11:17:03 AM #20:	Caesar: "I want you to go destroy whatever is there and then come back here and tell me about it" Benny: [Goes and activates robot army] <cite>EDF-5 posted [p:980404281] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Caesar: "I want you to go destroy whatever is there and then come back here and tell me about it"Benny: [Goes and activates robot army]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deathy5656 05/15/24 11:22:24 AM #21:	Yes, The Legion would win the second battle of hoover dam if courier is not involved. Many people in the game point this out and the reasons why if you listen to the dialogue. Only people who pretend otherwise are the blind NCR commanders. Without Courier the NCR would have million different problems at their hands all over and would have to spread incredibly thin for all of them meaning soldiers at the dam would get outmanned heavily. Of course, like others have pointed out, once the dam gets taken and NCR runs, Caesar would die soon and Legion would crumble in in-fighting afterwards. --- This is a signature. <cite>Deathy5656 posted [p:980404348] in Caesar's l... [t:80769601]...</cite> <quote>Yes, The Legion would win the second battle of hoover dam if courier is not involved. Many people in the game point this out and the reasons why if you listen to the dialogue. Only people who pretend otherwise are the blind NCR commanders. Without Courier the NCR would have million different problems at their hands all over and would have to spread incredibly thin for all of them meaning soldiers at the dam would get outmanned heavily.Of course, like others have pointed out, once the dam gets taken and NCR runs, Caesar would die soon and Legion would crumble in in-fighting afterwards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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