Board 8 > Most absurd Final Fantasy thing? (spoilers I guess)

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05/15/24 6:58:20 PM
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I do love Final Fantasy, of course, but the series is not without its flaws.

EDIT: I don't want to imply that I've played FFXVI, I just forgot about it.

EDIT 2: That should be "pre-FF7," not "pre-FF6."

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05/15/24 7:03:11 PM
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source on 1?

8 existing kinda makes 3 less insane tbh

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KamikazePotato
05/15/24 7:03:16 PM
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I'm trying to think of something in FF14 that tops Lightning as a Victoria's Secret model and am coming up blank.

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Leonhart4
05/15/24 7:08:09 PM
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NFUN posted...
source on 1?

It was said in an interview after FFX-2 came out. It was supposed to be the reason there was a character named Shinra in the game. I don't know that it's actually canon though.

Besides, Gilgamesh proves that several of the universes are connected to some degree.

Also XII is confirmed to take place in the same world as Tactics (and Vagrant Story, for some reason).

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Mobilezoid
05/15/24 7:13:42 PM
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Hey, Lightning became a Louis Vuitton model, not Victoria's Secret.

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kevwaffles
05/15/24 7:22:18 PM
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Paine replacing Lulu isn't that crazy because Lulu would have never gone along with half the shit they do.

Did they say Lightning time travelled? I was under the impression they were trying the "digital actress" thing again. Either way it's the clear winner.

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Strife2
05/15/24 7:25:21 PM
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Disc 3 and 4 of FF8

I mean, a witch from the future possesses a character from the party, who the main character didn't give a shit about while the entire party forces them together because they are supposed to be I guess. So he sobs over her comatose body, while being transported to a past self within the body of his father and his friends, who somehow bumblefuck their way to defeat another sorceress and take over a futuristic country.

The main character takes the comatose body of the possessed girl he suddenly can't be without, and then they for some reason go to the moon, because I guess, and then he mindwarps into the past to get the girl back, while jumping out into space after she triggers a cataclysm of endless monsters.

The characters then concoct a plot to use the power of friendship to bypass the issue of existing in the far flung future (which doesn't seem to look all that different), and then go into a Dracula-esque Castle to battle a sorceress for the fate of humanity. The main character suffers an insane mindfuck kind of ending...but they get all back to their own time because he believed a special garden would be the best place the girl he kinda hated but now super really liked because she was comatose was told, "Remember this place. I love you, so I'll find you."

I mean...even by Final Fantasy standards...fucking wut?

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LightningStrikes
05/15/24 7:34:37 PM
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Of these 8 is the goofiest but I voted for 3 because it is by far the most embarrassing.

I dont hold 7 against them, thats just game development, plus if you count the big budget direct sequels and the VII Remake games its more like 10 in that span, which is slower but not too bad actually. They still get these games out at a clip they just changed what they make in the series.

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Emeraldegg
05/15/24 8:00:26 PM
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ff9 sidequests

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Leonhart4
05/15/24 8:15:41 PM
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Emeraldegg posted...
ff9 sidequests

More like the FFIX PlayOnline strategy guide

Also LOL never change FFVIII haters

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05/15/24 8:19:35 PM
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I like FFVIII and all, but it is secretly one of the most absurd FFs.

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redrocket
05/15/24 8:22:04 PM
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LightningStrikes posted...
Of these 8 is the goofiest but I voted for 3 because it is by far the most embarrassing.


My thoughts exactly.

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kevwaffles
05/15/24 8:29:06 PM
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FFVIII is a good game if you stop after Disc 1.

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Leonhart4
05/15/24 8:31:03 PM
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kevwaffles posted...
FFVIII is a good game if you stop after Disc 4.

Fixed

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kevwaffles
05/15/24 8:40:19 PM
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Actually I was wrong. It's a good story through Disc 1.

The Junction system was always terrible.

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Leonhart4
05/15/24 8:57:55 PM
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kevwaffles posted...
The Junction system was always terrible.

Git gud

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05/15/24 9:06:26 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Git gud

You can't be that delusional.

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Strife2
05/15/24 9:08:43 PM
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He's been like this for decades...so maybe? If anything is guaranteed in life, it's death, taxes, and Leonhart finding any way possible to find the good in FF8, regardless of situation.

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Lopen
05/15/24 9:19:54 PM
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Junction system is awesome
Draw system and being fooled into thinking drawing is the best way to get stock of spells is the bad part
Change how draw works, leave junction system as is, great system

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kevwaffles
05/15/24 9:31:23 PM
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Lopen posted...
Draw system and being fooled into thinking drawing is the best way to get stock of spells is the bad part

You say that like it doesn't count. Or that the alternative is a significant improvement once you can draw 9 spells at once.

But none of that is even what I meant. Saying "git gud" to the most busted system they ever made is the delusional part.

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pjbasis
05/15/24 9:31:40 PM
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I would rework limit breaks in 8. Too broken. Or at least get rid of Aura

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redrocket
05/15/24 9:35:04 PM
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The junction system is a hot mess.

But its a beautiful hot mess.

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kevwaffles
05/15/24 9:36:14 PM
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redrocket posted...
The junction system is a hot mess.

But its a beautiful hot mess.

See I can respect that take.

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colliding
05/15/24 9:37:38 PM
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Absurd doesn't necessarily mean bad. I would agree that there is a lot of absurdity in FFVIII, but it's also quite brilliant. It's also not really more absurd than what happens in X, and people rarely complain about that one as much as they complain about VIII. Junction system sucks though sorry!

To make this not a secret FFVIII topic:

I'm going to choose to ignore Kitase or whoever says that 7 and X are in the same universe. I think he was just doing it for the clicks. I'm also going to ignore all the X-3 audio drama stuff that's supposedly canonical and really really bad.

Spirits Within just existing and nearly destroying the brand/company is a great answer. I want to give them kudos for taking risks but it's just a terrible movie.


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05/15/24 9:39:17 PM
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kevwaffles posted...
But none of that is even what I meant. Saying "git gud" to the most busted system they ever made is the delusional part.

Most people say the Junction system is bad because they're bad at it. Sorry I didn't realize you're one of the people who doesn't enjoy being good at it!

redrocket posted...
The junction system is a hot mess.

But its a beautiful hot mess.

Correct.

Strife2 posted...
He's been like this for decades...so maybe? If anything is guaranteed in life, it's death, taxes, and Leonhart finding any way possible to find the good in FF8, regardless of situation.

Also Strife2 finding any way possible to find the bad in FFVIII, regardless of situation.

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05/15/24 9:41:53 PM
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colliding posted...
I'm going to choose to ignore Kitase or whoever says that 7 and X are in the same universe. I think he was just doing it for the clicks. I'm also going to ignore all the X-3 audio drama stuff that's supposedly canonical and really really bad.
GodDAMMIT I forgot to add the blitzball bomb to the poll.

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redrocket
05/15/24 9:42:35 PM
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Anagram posted...
GodDAMMIT I forgot to add the blitzball bomb to the poll.

Oh God what did I miss?

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Leonhart4
05/15/24 9:44:16 PM
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If you've survived this long without looking into the radio drama and the background material that accompanies it, keep it that way

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MacArrowny
05/15/24 9:51:54 PM
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Blitzball bomb might've won it

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kevwaffles
05/15/24 10:06:23 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Most people say the Junction system is bad because they're bad at it. Sorry I didn't realize you're one of the people who doesn't enjoy being good at it!

I mean no one's bad at using it. They're "bad" at setting it up, but all being "good" does is save time. I put those in quotes because it's knowledge not skill dependent.

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Leonhart4
05/15/24 10:09:45 PM
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Nah there's plenty of people bad at using it

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kevwaffles
05/15/24 10:21:35 PM
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Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eien no Daish~Edit

Tidus and Yuna end up shipwrecked on an unknown island that resembles Besaid and Tidus theorizes they have traveled back in time a thousand years. Tidus is killed in a freak accident when he mistakes an ancient bomb of Bevelle make for a blitzball. Yuna faints from the shock, and unknowingly beckons Tidus back into the world with him none the wiser of what happened.

Holy shit

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Leonhart4
05/15/24 10:25:14 PM
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I warned you

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05/15/24 10:35:05 PM
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lmao i had forgotten about that

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kevwaffles
05/15/24 10:37:42 PM
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Come to think of it, I think someone told me about that once I didn't believe them.

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05/15/24 10:39:55 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
Blitzball bomb might've won it
I don't know if it would have won it, but it would definitely be top three. This is a huge oversight.

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Leonhart4
05/15/24 10:43:31 PM
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That excerpt doesn't even mention that Tidus kicks the blitzbomb out of frustration because he and Yuna have an argument

And then Yuna breaks up with him because she can't tell him he's unsent and she can't bring herself to send him

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KamikazePotato
05/15/24 10:44:19 PM
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I don't blame anyone for forgetting the blitzball bomb. I'd repressed that memory until this topic.

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Leonhart4
05/15/24 10:46:19 PM
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I could never forget

At the end of the radio drama Sin returns in a situation that rivals "somehow Palpatine returned"

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05/16/24 12:00:27 AM
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05/16/24 12:21:40 AM
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Leonhart4 posted...
I could never forget

At the end of the radio drama Sin returns in a situation that rivals "somehow Palpatine returned"

Did they also bring Auron back to make it so that nothing actually happened in X?

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05/16/24 12:26:52 AM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Did they also bring Auron back to make it so that nothing actually happened in X?

No, but he (allegedly) has a daughter now, who is the narrator of the radio drama

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Raka_Putra
05/16/24 12:34:19 AM
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Oh wow the Blitzball bomb thing is amazing. No notes.

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MZero
05/16/24 12:41:57 AM
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Came to mention the FFX audio drama stuff

good to see it's been covered

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WazzupGenius00
05/16/24 1:39:06 AM
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I voted for #3 but not because the idea of the digital actress is absurd, but rather because the idea of her being the first one is absurd--Kenji Eno had already created Laura in 1995

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Strife2
05/16/24 1:39:55 AM
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The blitzball bomb is almost as bad as knowing we're probably never getting the FFX-0 bros reunion tour prequel game.

But nah. Let's just tease a 20-year old FFX-3 and hope people accept the franchise needs returning to.

Edit: actually. Maybe it is for the best. They wouldn't bring back the fighting system from X anyway. They would contrive some lackluster action based system based on looking cool...

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Accel_R8
05/16/24 1:54:42 AM
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The entirety of FF8's plot after the parade. Just absolute fucking gobbledygook that keeps getting progressively sillier.

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Xiahou_Shake
05/16/24 2:20:10 AM
#47:


The BlitzBomb is still the king and I'm tickled to see some people discovering it for the first time in here. Honestly for how mindbendingly stupid it is, it's kind of amazing we have something kinda-sorta almost as dumb with the IRL Lightning stuff.

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05/16/24 2:21:14 AM
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Strife2 posted...
Disc 3 and 4 of FF8

I mean, a witch from the future possesses a character from the party, who the main character didn't give a shit about while the entire party forces them together because they are supposed to be I guess. So he sobs over her comatose body, while being transported to a past self within the body of his father and his friends, who somehow bumblefuck their way to defeat another sorceress and take over a futuristic country.

The main character takes the comatose body of the possessed girl he suddenly can't be without, and then they for some reason go to the moon, because I guess, and then he mindwarps into the past to get the girl back, while jumping out into space after she triggers a cataclysm of endless monsters.

The characters then concoct a plot to use the power of friendship to bypass the issue of existing in the far flung future (which doesn't seem to look all that different), and then go into a Dracula-esque Castle to battle a sorceress for the fate of humanity. The main character suffers an insane mindfuck kind of ending...but they get all back to their own time because he believed a special garden would be the best place the girl he kinda hated but now super really liked because she was comatose was told, "Remember this place. I love you, so I'll find you."

I mean...even by Final Fantasy standards...fucking wut?
i really feel like not enough is made of how quickly the game throws "we're going to space" at you, it makes me laugh every time i play it and was what i was thinking of coming in here

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05/16/24 2:22:22 AM
#49:


Mobilezoid posted...
Hey, Lightning became a Louis Vuitton model, not Victoria's Secret.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/136cf63a.jpg

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