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wackyteen
05/15/24 8:47:57 PM
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https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/very-expensive-lunch-sask-driver-handed-a-cell-phone-ticket-for-using-points-app-in-mcdonald-s-drive-thru-1.6887468

A warning from a Saskatoon driver about using your fast-food app while in the drive-thru line a trip to get some free lunch cost him a lot more than he bargained for.
Im barely even moving. I pull up my app and look at the rear-view mirror and theres a motorcycle cop behind me, Mason Prima told CTV News about the moment he was pulled over going through the McDonalds drive-thru in Saskatoon.
He didnt think anything of using the app, and needed it to get the free lunch that he had earned through reward points.
Then the officer came to his window.
I just go like this and show him Im on my McDonalds app loading up the code to get a free meal, Prima said.
He thought that would be the end of it.
"I did think he was just going to let me go because Im just trying to get a free meal, but no, turns out to be a very expensive lunch, he said.
Prima says the whole process was a catch-22. He needed the app to complete his order, and its the first thing McDonalds staff ask you when you pull up.
I was kind of shocked to be honest. Ive never had that before I open up my app every time I go over to drive-thru and Ive never had that issue, he said.
In a statement to CTV News, the Saskatchewan RCMP disagreed with Prima's version of events.
"RCMP can confirm that on May 13, 2024 the individual was observed driving a vehicle on a public roadway while using a cellphone. A Combined Traffic Services Saskatchewan RCMP officer initiated a traffic stop with the individual. The individual then pulled in the McDonalds parking lot, where the traffic violation was issued," the statement said.
Local criminal defense lawyer Brian Pfefferle says there is still a lot of grey area when it comes to technology and the law.
I feel for the individual that was charged here. If he was literally in the drive-thru area and not on a public roadway, Pfefferle told CTV News.
I would venture to guess that a great majority of people would utilize their cellphones in lineups such as that and it shouldnt be considered illegal, but its obviously debatable, he added.
Cellphone use while driving is clearly dangerous, says Pfefferle, but he questions the circumstances in Primas case.
Prima says he's only been driving for two and a half years, he's only had one speeding ticket in that time and is very careful to keep his cellphone out of reach, so he isnt tempted to use it while driving.
I didnt have my foot on the gas or brake. It was just rolling. Barely moving, Prima says.
Despite what the RCMP says, Prima is sticking to his guns for now.
The fine he faces is $580, which for this 18-year-old is a hefty amount, but hes most concerned about the demerits off his licence.
Prima said he feels strongly that he shouldn't have to pay this ticket and is prepared to fight it in court. That date is set for July 31.

SMH why can't he just park, turn his car off, get his phone, open the app, get the code, MEMORIZE it, store his phone somewhere inaccessible to him while driving so he won't be tempted, then turn his car back on, get in the drive thru line, and then give the code to the workers.

IT'S SO FUCKING EASY.

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thronedfire2
05/15/24 8:49:11 PM
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lol that cop was a dick

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05/15/24 8:53:42 PM
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Mom and dad got him an Audi S4

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Smallville
05/15/24 8:54:43 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
lol that cop was a dick
yeah no kidding

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Ryven
05/15/24 8:55:16 PM
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You know cops are bored when.

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05/15/24 8:55:44 PM
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wonder if the cop was using the drive thru too

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Cheater87
05/15/24 8:57:02 PM
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Would I ger in trouble for using my gas station app while in the car to pay?

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Powdered_Toast
05/15/24 8:57:47 PM
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The section you quoted says he was on his phone before pulling into the Mcdonalds.

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voldothegr8
05/15/24 8:58:19 PM
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Thankfully cops can't do this in USA

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radical_rhino
05/15/24 9:02:42 PM
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In the states Ive lived in its legal to use your phone at a red light.

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archizzy
05/15/24 9:05:22 PM
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I guess it really depend on which version is actually true. If he was just in the drive through common sense says he shouldn't get a ticket. If he was actually on the road and then was pulled over and turned into McDonalds then fair.

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UnicornRaline
05/15/24 9:14:14 PM
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Powdered_Toast posted...
The section you quoted says he was on his phone before pulling into the Mcdonalds.
The section quoted says the COPS say he was on his phone before pulling into McDonalds. I'm not jumping to believe that.

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Lordgold666
05/15/24 9:18:50 PM
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Thats really shitty.

Had a family member one time have their vehicle break down in the middle of a snowstorm. While waiting for the tow truck he decided to drink some of the six pack he had while sitting there with the heat on. A cop had showed up before the tow truck and he actually received a dui even tho he was sitting in the backseat while drinking the beer bc its considered "driving", if the keys are in the ignition and the car is running.

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GuerrillaSoldier
05/15/24 9:32:03 PM
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lmao dude was caught on his phone so he pulled into a mcdonalds and pretended to be on an app


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Unsuprised_Pika
05/15/24 9:34:05 PM
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Powdered_Toast posted...
The section you quoted says he was on his phone before pulling into the Mcdonalds.

Cops are fucking liars with ticket qoutas though

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Bugmeat
05/15/24 9:37:13 PM
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He should have waited until he was in the drive through before getting his phone out.


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Glob
05/15/24 9:40:00 PM
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Cops are fucking liars with ticket qoutas though

Whereas members of the public are always honest and never do anything wrong?

Honestly, either party could be in the wrong here and well never know which.
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runewalshPSiv
05/15/24 9:42:13 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Thats really shitty.

Had a family member one time have their vehicle break down in the middle of a snowstorm. While waiting for the tow truck he decided to drink some of the six pack he had while sitting there with the heat on. A cop had showed up before the tow truck and he actually received a dui even tho he was sitting in the backseat while drinking the beer bc its considered "driving", if the keys are in the ignition and the car is running.

Sounds like your family member is stupid. He seriously couldn't wait till he got home to drink?

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05/15/24 9:42:42 PM
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It's funny you can see the majority of people by the polls think this is BS and then you check the comments and see some of the bootlickers lol

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Tig
05/16/24 3:25:29 AM
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Fair, next

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FL81
05/16/24 3:39:47 AM
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only in America

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Revelation34
05/16/24 3:45:53 AM
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Powdered_Toast posted...
The section you quoted says he was on his phone before pulling into the Mcdonalds.


"Cops never ever lie."

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Enclave
05/16/24 4:09:01 AM
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Powdered_Toast posted...
The section you quoted says he was on his phone before pulling into the Mcdonalds.

It said the cop said he was on the road, that doesn't mean he actually was. Cops are pretty unreliable witnesses.

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Zikten
05/16/24 4:11:48 AM
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Bugmeat posted...
He should have waited until he was in the drive through before getting his phone out.
I believe he did. You can't trust cops
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Mr_Karate_II
05/16/24 4:48:54 AM
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Powdered_Toast posted...
The section you quoted says he was on his phone before pulling into the Mcdonalds.
But people will blatantly ignore this

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Mr_Karate_II
05/16/24 4:57:41 AM
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I'm not gonna side with a teenager on this one.


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Glob
05/16/24 5:17:41 AM
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Zikten posted...
I believe he did. You can't trust cops

You cant trust people generally when it comes to testimony. Even if they believe theyre telling the truth, they sometimes arent.
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Nukazie
05/16/24 5:33:24 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Thankfully cops can't do this in USA
yeah they'll just pull out a gun for some reason

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05/16/24 5:48:59 AM
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Piggy go oink

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GeneSnitsky
05/16/24 5:49:27 AM
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--Zero- posted...
It's funny you can see the majority of people by the polls think this is BS and then you check the comments and see some of the bootlickers lol

It's even funnier when the chronically online can't grasp the fact many idiots drive while using their phone. You can really tell they don't get out much.

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Just_a_loser
05/16/24 6:03:12 AM
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Was the kid lollygagging while playing on his phone and holding up the line?

If so, fair.

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Revelation34
05/16/24 7:03:57 AM
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Glob posted...


You cant trust people generally when it comes to testimony. Even if they believe theyre telling the truth, they sometimes arent.


If somebody thinks they are telling the truth then it isn't a lie if it's proven to be false. It would be a mistake. A lie is knowingly telling a falsehood.

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Cobra1010
05/16/24 7:07:03 AM
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So was he on the public road or not?

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LeoRavus
05/16/24 7:16:23 AM
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Those codes only last about 5 minutes. If you get the code too far in advance it'll be no good once you try to use it. Been there more than once, getting a code in the parking lot then hitting the drive-thru only to be told my code doesn't work and have to refresh.

I'd have to fight this ticket. At the drive-thru you're not even moving mostly and have plenty of time to look at your phone.


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wackyteen
05/16/24 7:56:42 AM
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The one thing I'd gig him on based on his own testimony is that he said he didn't have his foot on the brake and the car was idle moving (cause it wasn't in park/neutral).

That is pretty dangerous.

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buddhamonster
05/16/24 8:03:09 AM
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RCMP can confirm that on May 13, 2024 the individual was observed driving a vehicle on a public roadway while using a cellphone. A Combined Traffic Services Saskatchewan RCMP officer initiated a traffic stop with the individual. The individual then pulled in the McDonalds parking lot, where the traffic violation was issued," the statement said.

If this is true, then he was not fined for using his phone in the drive-thru, and was, in fact, on the road when he was spotted, and thus, the ticket is justified.

You should be focused on driving, not fiddling with your food app trying to get your order ready.

Enclave posted...
It said the cop said he was on the road, that doesn't mean he actually was. Cops are pretty unreliable witnesses.

But teenagers? Historically super trustworthy. Often considered some of the most reliable witnesses around!

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Dakimakura
05/16/24 8:03:31 AM
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Ticket inflation for some reason

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Glob
05/16/24 8:48:32 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
If somebody thinks they are telling the truth then it isn't a lie if it's proven to be false. It would be a mistake. A lie is knowingly telling a falsehood.

That doesnt go against anything I said.

Testimony is unreliable, whether it comes from a cop or not.
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ShineboxPhil
05/16/24 8:51:03 AM
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FL81 posted...
only in America
Yes the beautiful American city of Saskatoon

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Enclave
05/16/24 9:25:15 AM
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buddhamonster posted...
But teenagers? Historically super trustworthy. Often considered some of the most reliable witnesses around!

Not my problem that cops have absolutely trashed their own reputation.

If the cops want me to believe them here they best produce the dash cam footage from their cruiser.

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pnut027
05/16/24 9:28:29 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
Would I ger in trouble for using my gas station app while in the car to pay?
Probably if the car is rolling forward while you use it.

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pnut027
05/16/24 9:30:04 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Thats really shitty.

Had a family member one time have their vehicle break down in the middle of a snowstorm. While waiting for the tow truck he decided to drink some of the six pack he had while sitting there with the heat on. A cop had showed up before the tow truck and he actually received a dui even tho he was sitting in the backseat while drinking the beer bc its considered "driving", if the keys are in the ignition and the car is running.
If the car is broken down, the argument can be made that you cant move it.

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Cemith
05/16/24 9:32:48 AM
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runewalshPSiv posted...
Sounds like your family member is stupid. He seriously couldn't wait till he got home to drink?

Yeah I'm with you.

Like, why risk it?

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bigblu89
05/16/24 9:34:48 AM
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I know we live in an ACAB society, especially here on CE, but "That cop is an asshole for giving someone a ticket for doing something that is illegal" is a wild take for the majority to have.

If you were in the drive through and that same kid rear ended you becasue he was on his phone and idle rolled into you bumper, I'm sure you'd be all "Well, the code does time out, so I understand. I wouldn't want you to lose your free meal, after all."

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Enclave
05/16/24 9:39:54 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
I know we live in an ACAB society, especially here on CE, but "That cop is an asshole for giving someone a ticket for doing something that is illegal" is a wild take for the majority to have.

If you were in the drive through and that same kid rear ended you becasue he was on his phone and idle rolled into you bumper, I'm sure you'd be all "Well, the code does time out, so I understand. I wouldn't want you to lose your free meal, after all."

And if the cop had said that was the moment he decided to ticket the kid I'd be a hell of a lot more sympathetic since that's actually provable based on what the kid themselves said, however that's not why the cop gave the ticket according to the cop.

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bigblu89
05/16/24 9:52:29 AM
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Enclave posted...
And if the cop had said that was the moment he decided to ticket the kid I'd be a hell of a lot more sympathetic since that's actually provable based on what the kid themselves said, however that's not why the cop gave the ticket according to the cop.

The cop didn't say anything. All we have is the statement that was made by the department.

"RCMP can confirm that on May 13, 2024 the individual was observed driving a vehicle on a public roadway while using a cellphone. A Combined Traffic Services Saskatchewan RCMP officer initiated a traffic stop with the individual. The individual then pulled in the McDonalds parking lot, where the traffic violation was issued," the statement said.

But if the statement is true, that's exactly what happened. Whether or not the teen was or was not using his phone prior to pulling into the drive thru is something the cop will now have to prove in court, should the teen plea not guilty (assuming the process in Canada is the same as the US).

The procedures of pulling an individual over for a traffic violation vary, but it's usually not a situation like you see in the movies where an officer will turn his lights the second he sees someone make a violation. They'll usually follow the vehicle and not turn their light on until they feel they're in an area where the person can safely pull over. This could have been one of those situations, as there really isn't a ton of information about exactly what happened.

Whether the stop was initiated on the road, like the RCMP statement claims, or if the officer's lights weren't turned on until the teen was in the drive-thru, that will be proven by dash cam footage, assuming they have it.

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Serious_Cat
05/16/24 10:02:36 AM
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Our guy should have just shut up about using his phone in the drive-through if the police are claiming he was pulled over from the street into the parking lot.

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Rotterdammerung
05/16/24 10:43:05 AM
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They saw him rollin

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