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ForsakenHermit
05/16/24 5:31:43 PM
#50:


ai123 posted...
School cops who have permission to treat kids in a way that causes them pain?

I thought the idea was to cut the amount of bullying, not increase it.
Bullies need to be dealt with harshly. You can't just hug them tight enough and hope they'll turn over a new leaf.

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LinkDaLunatic
05/16/24 5:34:06 PM
#51:


Holy fuck, that hits close to home. I went to that same school when I was a kid. And bullying was a huge problem there then too, same issues and all... teachers and staff all turned a blind eye. I don't know how many teachers are there now that were there then, but fuck that school.

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FolkenRawr
05/16/24 5:35:03 PM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
As a parent I worry a lot about bullying. My son is just a toddler but Im already thinking about how I should handle it. Im considering just banning social media usage for a while.

One of my nephews is 7 and just the sweetest boy, but he has a speech impediment. He works with a pathologist, and it's definitely helping, but I'm terrified for him. Kids are mean.

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ai123
05/16/24 5:35:19 PM
#53:


ForsakenHermit posted...
Bullies need to be dealt with harshly. You can't just hug them tight enough and hope they'll turn over a new leaf.
Because hugging and throwing them against a wall are your only choices.

Seriously, you want adult rent-a-cop types in schools roughing up kids? Take a minute to think about how that will be abused, and the problems it will create.

You need a cure that isn't worse than the disease.

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DrizztLink
05/16/24 5:37:49 PM
#55:


0K_Then posted...
no im not lmao, i referenced only one but there is a lot of corruption within the system

like. did you NOT know that??
Ergo teachers don't deserve raises.

According to your dumbass non-sequitor.

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PissedOffMonk
05/16/24 5:42:12 PM
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Youre taking it on most teachers, cause of the actions of a few?

If we do it for cops, we should do it for teachers. Need to keep that consistency.
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0K_Then
05/16/24 5:42:39 PM
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theres still people here who call statements they dont agree with which exceed 3 sentences on a message-board website meltdowns these days? i honestly figured that died out once people started using it to simply describe statements they dont agree with which exceed 3 sentences on this particular message-board website
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ForsakenHermit
05/16/24 5:44:02 PM
#60:


ai123 posted...
Because hugging and throwing them against a wall are your only choices.

Seriously, you want adult rent-a-cop types in schools roughing up kids? Take a minute to think about how that will be abused, and the problems it will create.

You need a cure that isn't worse than the disease.
Detention does not work
Suspending them does not work
Expelling them for the year does not work
Community service does not work

The only other options are to send bullies to juvie for extended periods of time or throw them in foster care and I think those can be a bit too harshfor regular bullying. Bullies need someone bigger and stronger to make them feel powerless or else they'll walk all over you. Speaking from experience here.

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DrizztLink
05/16/24 5:44:14 PM
#61:


No, we call it a meltdown when someone says something stupid and gets pissy for being told that it was a stupid statement.

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Toonstrack
05/16/24 5:45:41 PM
#62:


This is awful.

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0K_Then
05/16/24 5:47:17 PM
#63:


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you guys are acting weird & angry af toward this throwaway comment i made which is only intended to be critical of all the shit teachers out there who exploit the few good ones to get raises at their jobs where they underperform in more & more w/ each passing decade. as if i said that believing teachers should be paid like dirt lmfao yall are always so eager to fling your own shit in order to virtue-signal at others

fr, learn to interact w/ others instead of going immediately hostile ffs. no wonder ppl hate this board
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TomClark
05/16/24 5:48:02 PM
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That's so fucking heartbreaking.

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Murphiroth
05/16/24 5:49:20 PM
#66:


0K_Then posted...
you guys are acting weird & angry af toward this throwaway comment i made which is only intended to be critical of all the shit teachers out there who exploit the few good ones to get raises at their jobs where they underperform in more & more w/ each passing decade. as if i said that believing teachers should be paid like dirt lmfao yall are always so eager to fling your own shit in order to virtue-signal at others

fr, learn to interact w/ others instead of going immediately hostile ffs. no wonder ppl hate this board

My guy, you said some stupid bullshit and are freaking out over getting called out on it, chill.
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DrizztLink
05/16/24 5:50:32 PM
#67:


0K_Then posted...
so eager to fling your own shit
Says the guy who flung his shit at teachers out of nowhere.

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ai123
05/16/24 5:50:52 PM
#68:


ForsakenHermit posted...
Detention does not work
Suspending them does not work
Expelling them for the year does not work
Community service does not work

The only other options are to send bullies to juvie for extended periods of time or throw them in foster care and I think those can be a bit too harshfor regular bullying. Bullies need someone bigger and stronger to make them feel powerless or else they'll walk over you. Speaking from experience here.
What you are calling for is the very definition of bullying: physical threats and intimidation to make one feel powerless.

What makes you think that will work anyway? All the bully does is wait until one of these child-beating rent-a-cops isn't around.

That aside, it is simply not practical to have adults roughing up kids. Who would you even want doing that job? It will lead to more and more violence and abuse, not to mention the lawsuits.

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0K_Then
05/16/24 5:51:30 PM
#69:


Murphiroth posted...
My guy, you said some stupid bullshit and are freaking out over getting called out on it, chill.
freaking out jesus christ the gaslighting lmfao, yall should apply at this school in the story
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Murphiroth
05/16/24 5:52:09 PM
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I see chilling is off the table, then.
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0K_Then
05/16/24 5:54:06 PM
#71:


i apologize for reacting a tad negative in response to news about a 10 y/o boy committing suicide recently

silly, shameful ol me
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Murphiroth
05/16/24 5:55:13 PM
#73:


That's not why you're throwing a shitfit ITT currently but you do you, my guy.
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ForsakenHermit
05/16/24 5:55:22 PM
#74:


0K_Then posted...
you guys are acting weird & angry af toward this throwaway comment i made which is only intended to be critical of all the shit teachers out there who exploit the few good ones to get raises at their jobs where they underperform in more & more w/ each passing decade. as if i said that believing teachers should be paid like dirt lmfao yall are always so eager to fling your own shit in order to virtue-signal at others

fr, learn to interact w/ others instead of going immediately hostile ffs. no wonder ppl hate this board
Look I know what it's like to be dogpiled on by posters acting in bad faith as well as anyone on here. There's an argument to be made about bad teachers slipping through the cracks and getting tenure when they should be handed a pink slip. Making snarky comments about teacher salaries doesn't really help the discussion. If you want to argue that tenure should be forfeit in cases like this that would be one thing but jabs about teachers not getting money because the system sucks rancid milk chunks isn't helping.

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ai123
05/16/24 5:55:32 PM
#75:


0K_Then posted...
i apologize for reacting a tad negative in response to news about a 10 y/o boy committing suicide recently

silly, shameful ol me
Going all pass-agg is the classic way to cap a meltdown.

Well done, you.

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Shadowblade
05/16/24 5:56:21 PM
#76:


Yeah I despise bullies. And that kid looks normal AF. No reason to bully him because he has glasses.

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DrizztLink
05/16/24 6:01:19 PM
#77:


0K_Then posted...
i apologize for reacting a tad negative in response to news about a 10 y/o boy committing suicide recently

silly, shameful ol me
"I apologize for using the death of a child to fling shit at teachers for no reason."

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0K_Then
05/16/24 6:04:37 PM
#79:


ForsakenHermit posted...
Look I know what it's like to be dogpiled on by posters acting in bad faith as well as anyone on here. There's an argument to be made about bad teachers slipping through the cracks and getting tenure when they should be handed a pink slip. Making snarky comments about teacher salaries doesn't really help the discussion. If you want to argue that tenure should be forfeit in cases like this that would be one thing but jabs about teachers not getting money because the system sucks rancid milk chunks isn't helping.
cool,
but at the end of the day it was a salty joke made out of frustration. it LITERALLY was not that deep, nor even at all serious (hence it being its own separate post which provides excellent out-of-context quoting for teh tr0llz of course)

but i appreciate an actual thoughtful critique of my comment other than being told fUcK oFf 3 separate times by some REAL tough cookies who dont take no guff from nobody, and/or gaslighting weirdos who respond w/ hostility & respond w/ the classic u mad bro? where they falsely project anger in others doing nothing more than providing elaboration as to what you meant & try to spin this topic into some drama circus bs

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DrizztLink
05/16/24 6:05:59 PM
#80:


0K_Then posted...
nor even at all serious
"I'm just desperately flailing because you fell for my joke!"

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/16/24 6:06:37 PM
#81:


Schools: Well that's sad, oh well back to business.

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0K_Then
05/16/24 6:08:04 PM
#82:


ai123 posted...
Going all pass-agg is the classic way to cap a meltdown.

Well done, you.
that hasnt been any of you guys at all whatsoever
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DrizztLink
05/16/24 6:08:45 PM
#83:


0K_Then posted...
that hasnt been any of you guys at all whatsoever
"no u"

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ForsakenHermit
05/16/24 6:09:11 PM
#85:


ai123 posted...
What you are calling for is the very definition of bullying: physical threats and intimidation to make one feel powerless.

What makes you think that will work anyway? All the bully does is wait until one of these child-beating rent-a-cops isn't around.

That aside, it is simply not practical to have adults roughing up kids. Who would you even want doing that job? It will lead to more and more violence and abuse, not to mention the lawsuits.
Sometimes the only way to correct bad behavior is to turn the tables and give bad actors a taste of their own medicine. Bullies should not be treated better than their victims or else they are going to see the system as endorsing their cruelty. It happened to me in middle school. If you think ratting on them helps it doesn't. The problem of waiting for adults to turn their backs is far far more amplified from snitching than it ever could be from simply being checked into a wall or restrained. If a kid gets violent with another kid an adult should restrain them and if they get a little roughed up in the process they brought it on themselves. You can't just sit back and watch kids beat on other kids and not restrain them. That opens up lawsuits more tenfold than what I am proposing.

It's easy to critique, but I don't see you proposing any solutions.

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0K_Then
05/16/24 6:10:12 PM
#86:


DrizztLink posted...
"I'm just desperately flailing because you fell for my joke!"
you elaborated in response to my false accusations/projections LOL that means i now win! *EpicTrollFace.jpeg*
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DrizztLink
05/16/24 6:10:58 PM
#88:


Good attempt, but you're still getting shit on for your own words.

The Uno reversal just won't work, unfortunately.

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Murphiroth
05/16/24 6:11:36 PM
#89:


Really playing all of the classic alt meltdown hits today

  • Say something dumb
  • Get mad when people point out it's dumb
  • Repeated explanations of how you're totally not mad, everyone else is
  • Whining about CE in general
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0K_Then
05/16/24 6:12:37 PM
#91:


you guys seem to love giving me attention more than i have been enjoying typing this bullshit rather than booting-up Prodeus like ive been trying to do for the past 30 mins

away good game, i lose you win, im glad we cleared everything up

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Murphiroth
05/16/24 6:13:10 PM
#92:


0K_Then posted...
you guys seem to love giving me more attention than i have been enjoying typing this bullshit rather than booting-up Prodeus like ive been trying to do for the past 30 mins

away good game, i lose you win, im glad we cleared everything up

Oh shit we got the classic run away, I got a bingo!
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GhostFaceLeaks
05/16/24 6:14:12 PM
#93:


There is a good chance not only will the bullies not feel any remorse for their actions but in 20-30 years, they will become politicians and will use this to strengthen their ideals.

Its so fucked.

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CyborgSage00x0
05/16/24 6:17:22 PM
#96:


I hope those bullies and their families are haunted the rest of the their lives.

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LeoRavus
05/16/24 6:20:47 PM
#97:


CyborgSage00x0 posted...
I hope those bullies and their families are haunted the rest of the their lives.

I guess it depends on if they're sociopaths or not.

In the 4th grade I was playing a game with a girl at lunch to see if we could throw a nickel in the other's mouth. I threw one on hers and she started gagging and swallowed it, then had to go to the hospital. The teacher told me in front of the class later I better hope she's ok.

Anyway I still feel guilty about that and she lived.

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0K_Then
05/16/24 6:22:00 PM
#98:


Murphiroth posted...
Oh shit we got the classic run away, I got a bingo!
let the record show this guy got the last word in, therefore making him the special winner of this brave dramatic battle

and thus, on behalf of teachers across the U.S.: thank you for being such a stunning sharp-witted warrior for us all (w/ a bit of cool entertaining tude & TOTALLY NOT FORCED mic-drop moments present throughout which also provides very neat charisma to boot)

you are very cool & smart, and you are winner. enjoy the spoils, brother
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DrizztLink
05/16/24 6:23:14 PM
#99:


Very normal response, we're proud of you.

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