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DKBananaSlamma
05/17/24 2:42:02 PM
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I want to hear your accolades about my homeland >_>

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MagiMarthKoopa
05/17/24 2:45:31 PM
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They make the best games, the best anime and dramas, the best music
Japanese women have exceptionally great fashion sense
Their city designs are vastly superior to everywhere else. The walkability, style, and ease of public transportation, it's just perfect
Their culture is the least flawed of all
I wish everywhere could be as awesome as Japan
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DKBananaSlamma
05/17/24 2:46:35 PM
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MagiMarthKoopa posted...
They make the best games, the best anime and dramas, the best music
Japanese women have exceptionally great fashion sense
Their city designs are vastly superior to everywhere else. The walkability, style, and ease of public transportation, it's just perfect
Their culture is the least flawed of all
I wish everywhere could be as awesome as Japan
amen brother

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Baron_Ox
05/17/24 2:48:52 PM
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idk if I have a favorite country, but of the countries I've been to, I really liked Belgium.

it seemed really laid-back.

like, if I had to describe its atmosphere, it would be - it felt like late afternoon after a light work day.

super chill.

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McMarbles
05/17/24 2:49:59 PM
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But it isnt. Its Canada.

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NoxObscuras
05/17/24 2:51:59 PM
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If I had to pick a favorite, it would be Switzerland. They were born with hearts full of neutrality

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LeoRavus
05/17/24 2:54:07 PM
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I've only passed through an airport in Japan and the only thing I took away from that was how nice their toilets are.

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Dakimakura
05/17/24 2:54:47 PM
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Amurica #1 country in the world

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Dancedreamer
05/17/24 2:59:18 PM
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It's Sweden.

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MagiMarthKoopa
05/17/24 3:01:14 PM
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McMarbles posted...
But it isnt. Its Canada.
The country with useless governments that let corporations continue to fuck over all of its citizens

The country with zero culture

Sure...
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McMarbles
05/17/24 4:55:27 PM
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MagiMarthKoopa posted...
The country with useless governments that let corporations continue to fuck over all of its citizens

The country with zero culture

Sure...
And your alternative is Japan.

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Baha05
05/17/24 4:56:46 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9a8809a2.jpg

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TheSavageDragon
05/17/24 5:00:54 PM
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Honestly don't have a particular place I would call my favorite. Maybe The Netherlands as I do enjoy spending time there on occasion.

Baron_Ox posted...
idk if I have a favorite country, but of the countries I've been to, I really liked Belgium.

it seemed really laid-back.

like, if I had to describe its atmosphere, it would be - it felt like late afternoon after a light work day.

super chill.

I've never heard those words to describe my country before, so they're appreciated.
It's not so much that we're chill, but we're a somewhat timid people. Comedians here regularly joke we're the type of people who would go out on the streets in order to protest something, but request everyone doesn't make too much noise for the people living in those streets.

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LoveLikeJazz
05/17/24 5:04:16 PM
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MagiMarthKoopa posted...
They make the best games, the best anime and dramas, the best music
Japanese women have exceptionally great fashion sense
Their city designs are vastly superior to everywhere else. The walkability, style, and ease of public transportation, it's just perfect
Their culture is the least flawed of all
I wish everywhere could be as awesome as Japan
I disagree with the first two points but that's just opinion anyway. The rest you're probably right about.

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Shotgunnova
05/17/24 5:05:04 PM
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Yuktobania

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Euripides
05/17/24 5:16:48 PM
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Is Japan the Netherlands? Because that's my favorite country

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DKBananaSlamma
05/17/24 5:18:24 PM
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Yall baka-gaijins are tripping

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Hexenherz
05/17/24 5:19:32 PM
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Dancedreamer posted...
It's Sweden.


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archizzy
05/17/24 5:20:37 PM
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I have been to over 50 countries while I was in the Navy and travelled a lot when I was younger. There are a lot of amazing places really. I don't know if I could pick an overall #1 favorite but I have favorite places depending on different criteria.

I have to say one of the strongest contenders would be Italy. Rome is an amazing city and I love a lot of things about it but I'm not really a big city guy but getting out into the countryside of Italy is quite great too. I always had an amazing time in Italy.

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bsp77
05/17/24 5:21:23 PM
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The obsession with Japan among introverted nerds is sad

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Arcanine2009
05/17/24 5:33:59 PM
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MagiMarthKoopa posted...
They make the best games, the best anime and dramas, the best music
Japanese women have exceptionally great fashion sense
Their city designs are vastly superior to everywhere else. The walkability, style, and ease of public transportation, it's just perfect
Their culture is the least flawed of all
I wish everywhere could be as awesome as Japan

this is debatable. Japan is a very clean and organized culture with lots of rules to keep people in line. Also at a young age, schools really teach kids to be responsible, pick up after themselves, and be independent. There's a strong sense of community.

On the flip side, a lot less individualism. If you stick out like a sore thumb and not confirm to their standards, in most cases that's a bad thing. Work hours can be long for white collared jobs--in particular that employees don't leave until their bosses do, and then they have to go out with them for drinks or dinner. Living in the city is expensive for Japanese people and the birth rate is going down due to working hours and cost of living. The suicide rates are also among the highest in developing countries because of their schools and work places have a lot of pressure and commitment to their people. Besides that.. Very homogeneous society. If you aren't born and raised in Japan and aren't Japanese, you will be treated very differently vs a foreigner. You won't have the same job mobility and trust. In terms of job outlooks for foreigners, not great compared to the West.

in regards to technology, it's a mixed bag. Vending machines in a lot of places where you can get anything, and a better 7-11. They also have some interesting QoL tech in hotels. But if you go out in the country especially, a lot of things are behind. A lot of places don't accept credit card, and only cash.

tl;Dr It's not perfect by any means. Great place to travel and has a respectful culture. But to live there as a foreigner? Not the best. Every country has their issues.

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Arcanine2009
05/17/24 5:35:56 PM
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bsp77 posted...
The obsession with Japan among introverted nerds is sad
Not everyone is it anime either. More of the younger generation thing.

@SpiritSephiroth what's your take now that you have lived their for like 2 months? Is it like you imagined?

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Murphiroth
05/17/24 5:38:17 PM
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bsp77 posted...
The obsession with Japan among introverted nerds is sad

Yep.
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Prestoff
05/17/24 5:40:59 PM
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bsp77 posted...
The obsession with Japan among introverted nerds is sad

I mean it makes sense since Millennial nerds are more likely to consume video games and anime/manga from Japan (a lot of their media plays a big role in our childhood) so it does kind of warp their view about the place in general.

With that said, I've been to many parts of the world but ultimately my favorite country would have to be "United States" technically since I vibe more with the Hawaiian culture than any other place I've visited/lived in.

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Baron_Ox
05/17/24 5:43:12 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
I've never heard those words to describe my country before, so they're appreciated.
It's not so much that we're chill, but we're a somewhat timid people. Comedians here regularly joke we're the type of people who would go out on the streets in order to protest something, but request everyone doesn't make too much noise for the people living in those streets.

EDIT: We're basically Europe's Canadians with the Dutch being the more straight to the point Americans
tbf, I was only there for about a day or two, traveling somewhere else.

some of my family lives there, so I stopped by to see them, and just walking around and doing stuff made me feel it was super chill.

I know it could have just been the area/time of day, so I'll probably have to visit again sometime in the future.

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TheSavageDragon
05/17/24 5:53:48 PM
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Baron_Ox posted...
some of my family lives there, so I stopped by to see them, and just walking around and doing stuff made me feel it was super chill.

Where do they live if you don't me asking. Just curious what part you've been to.
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DKBananaSlamma
05/17/24 6:12:28 PM
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bsp77 posted...
The obsession with Japan among introverted nerds is sad
Once you've made your pilgrimage to nerd Mecca, you'll realize that weebs were right all along: Japan really is better

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NoxObscuras
05/17/24 6:22:29 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
Once you've made your pilgrimage to nerd Mecca, you'll realize that weebs were right all along: Japan really is better
I doubt going to Japan will ever make me love it that much lol

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bsp77
05/17/24 6:23:01 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
Once you've made your pilgrimage to nerd Mecca, you'll realize that weebs were right all along: Japan really is better
I've been there. It's great, but so is Europe and lots of other places

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DKBananaSlamma
05/17/24 6:23:30 PM
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Hanging dong with my fellow countrymen in an onsen like 5 times was amazing and really helped me get in touch with my heritage. I recommend everyone to do it

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Euripides
05/17/24 7:31:40 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
Once you've made your pilgrimage to nerd Mecca, you'll realize that weebs were right all along: Japan really is better

Just not for any of the reasons they thought

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-BrokenSpiral-
05/17/24 7:39:40 PM
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It's funny because a lot of us Japanese don't even put our country that highly any more. Especially the younger ones. even more if they visited other countries. So many younger Japanese are prone to moving to another country and never coming back because of it except for visits.

And that's not even getting into the declining interest in our own products and culture beyond a surface level by our own youth. More interested in foreign stuff nowadays. because most of our stuff sucks now. Way more interested in foreign stuff and stories and media.

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LSGW_Zephyra
05/17/24 7:42:38 PM
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It's not. It's the Netherlands

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lennethsoki
05/17/24 8:02:41 PM
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-BrokenSpiral- posted...
It's funny because a lot of us Japanese don't even put our country that highly any more. Especially the younger ones. even more if they visited other countries. So many younger Japanese are prone to moving to another country and never coming back because of it except for visits.

And that's not even getting into the declining interest in our own products and culture beyond a surface level by our own youth. More interested in foreign stuff nowadays. because most of our stuff sucks now. Way more interested in foreign stuff and stories and media.

I remember when I was in Japan, and it blew my mind how much more eager they were to talk about foreign stuff than native stuff.

I remember my penpal even saying I should use my love of Disney to my advantage. She said,
"Only some Japanese love Japanese stuff. but EVERY Japanese loves Disney."

And it kind of snowballed from there. The amount of friends I made talking about foreign cities and cultures was interesting, and the same thing happened with them: they appreciated that I didn't talk about Japanese stuff, because a lot of Japanese, realistically, aren't into it outside of REALLY popular stuff.

They were even impressed that I could tell that Japanese were only "nice" because of the culture, not because they themselves are nice. I remember one friend telling me, "You're probably the only socially aware foreigner I've ever met." because of it, and how that's why they usually describe Japan as safe, but not as nice.

Then when you spend enough time there, you realize their buildings don't really look much different from, say, America. They just have Japanese letters on it and maybe some pop culture characters in the bigger cities.
Now Singapore, Switzerland, Greece or some Chinese cities on the other hand? I loooooved showing them photos of that, because their eyes would light up and immediately start talking about planning trips because of how cool the cities looked xD

They still send me messages like crazy, too, even small updates like some new food they learned to cook or, for example, when they started watching The Boys or finish a season.

But yeah, it was pretty enlightening to see all the holes in the culture. I can see why raising a kid in it, especially with all this global exposure to other cultures and media, doesn't seem appealing nowadays. When some of them explained the reasonings, it was...actually pretty sad ._.
I had no idea their systems up to and including adulthood were THAT rigid and stressful.

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02fran
05/17/24 8:08:08 PM
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bsp77 posted...
The obsession with Japan among introverted nerds is sad
tbf seems like it's a relatively popular opinion not just among introverted nerds.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/70d44366.jpg

TC is a gimmick though.

Anyway the answer is germany
https://www.ipsos.com/en/nation-brands-index-2022
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ellis123
05/17/24 8:14:01 PM
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02fran posted...
tbf seems like it's a relatively popular opinion not just among introverted nerds.
The graph does not serve as proof that their statement is false. To do so it would need to also show that the countries in question didn't have a disproportionate amount of introverted nerds.

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Glob
05/17/24 8:16:18 PM
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Japan is not my favourite, but its probably in my top 5.
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02fran
05/17/24 8:19:06 PM
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ellis123 posted...
The graph does not serve as proof that their statement is false. To do so it would need to also show that the countries in question didn't have a disproportionate amount of introverted nerds.

The US is generally well known to be more extroverted, for better or for worse, than most countries. Australia too.
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ellis123
05/17/24 8:20:18 PM
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02fran posted...
The US is generally well known to be more extroverted, for better or for worse, than most countries.
As a statement that holds roughly as much weight as bsp's.

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YugiNoob
05/17/24 8:20:32 PM
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Convenience store food is way better
So much cheaper
Little gacha machines everywhere
So much cleaner
People have much better manners
I like the weather more
Animal cafes are fun

Also, I find it weird that Australians want to move to Japan lol


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SauI_Goodman
05/17/24 8:21:10 PM
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Netherlands. Beautiful country. Always been good to me as an outsider. Japan a close 2nd. Was also good to me for 10 years.

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02fran
05/17/24 8:24:52 PM
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ellis123 posted...
As a statement that holds roughly as much weight as bsp's.

It's actually not mutually exclusive. I'm just saying the Japan obsession is common with extroverts too, something self-conscious introverted nerds often overlook.
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ellis123
05/17/24 8:26:15 PM
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02fran posted...
It's actually not mutually exclusive. I'm just saying the Japan obsession is common with extroverts too, something self-conscious introverted nerds often overlook.
I did not say that it was. Just that it held just as much weight.

And don't throw stones in a glass house.

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-BrokenSpiral-
05/17/24 8:28:24 PM
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lennethsoki posted...

I mean, I believe it. Most foreigners who come here are socially fucked and can't make friends unless they're other foreigners, or a leftover man/woman and their family that they married.

I have too many stories of foreigners getting slowly pushed away or excluded from friend circles, and the foreigner don't know why. Probably end up on Reddit asking for advice from other socially awkward losers.
We're polite, but we're not nice. That's a good way to put it, actually.

It's like they treat us like we're Japanese, and not like we're people. Because it's like you said, a lot of things are similar between us all over the world. It's just that, 99% of the time, foreigners can only interact with the culturally-mandated kindness. And very few will get to see how we actually are, which is, again, just being human and no different from anywhere else in the world. Because they're not worth showing ourselves to.

But yeah, it was pretty enlightening to see all the holes in the culture. I can see why raising a kid in it, especially with all this global exposure to other cultures and media, doesn't seem appealing nowadays. When some of them explained the reasonings, it was...actually pretty sad ._.
I had no idea their systems up to and including adulthood were THAT rigid and stressful.

There was a very popular TeD Talk about six years ago, that got used even by some articles from NHK and even appeared on Chiko's program. I think it was by Noku Okada from Astroscale, but I might be very wrong.
Regardless who it was, he touched on the culture effectively beginning to die and as you said becoming almost entirely superficial. Also why Japanese and especially youth are far more interested in foreign countries and what they put out rather than our own, especially nowadays. I will always remember the quote, roughly translated:

In the 1980's, Japan was in the 2,000's. In the 1990's, Japan was in the 2000's. The 2000's came and we stayed the same. It's the 2010's, Japan is still in the 2,000's. It's the 2020's, Japan will likely still be in the 2,000's."

We're not changing, but the world is. So we're stuck in the past, which attracts us to foreign stuff more. The quote gets dug up now because it's true even in 2024. The worst part is that our cities like Tokyo look like every other average city on the planet, just with some neon signs like Nashville, so there's not even any real cultural identity visually.
But for some reason, foreigners claim there is. Again, socially awkward.

Also, Singapore is a godtier mention. Most Japanese know Singapore or want to visit. It's known for four things:

1.) The best airport in the world (This is not up for debate. At all.)
2.) Among the best, most unique cities in the world for their policies on blending nature and manmade structures. Absolutely stunning.
3.) The Merlion.
4.) A multicultural dream for food, business, you name it.
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OriginalPlain2
05/17/24 8:30:49 PM
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its not that

and I seriously doubt japan wants to try live here in ak

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Glob
05/17/24 8:34:34 PM
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-BrokenSpiral- posted...
I mean, I believe it. Most foreigners who come here are socially fucked and can't make friends unless they're other foreigners, or a leftover man/woman and their family that they married.

I have too many stories of foreigners getting slowly pushed away or excluded from friend circles, and the foreigner don't know why. Probably end up on Reddit asking for advice from other socially awkward losers.
We're polite, but we're not nice. That's a good way to put it, actually.

It's like they treat us like we're Japanese, and not like we're people. Because it's like you said, a lot of things are similar between us all over the world. It's just that, 99% of the time, foreigners can only interact with the culturally-mandated kindness. And very few will get to see how we actually are, which is, again, just being human and no different from anywhere else in the world. Because they're not worth showing ourselves to.

There was a very popular TeD Talk about six years ago, that got used even by some articles from NHK and even appeared on Chiko's program. I think it was by Noku Okada from Astroscale, but I might be very wrong.
Regardless who it was, he touched on the culture effectively beginning to die and as you said becoming almost entirely superficial. Also why Japanese and especially youth are far more interested in foreign countries and what they put out rather than our own, especially nowadays. I will always remember the quote, roughly translated:

In the 1980's, Japan was in the 2,000's. In the 1990's, Japan was in the 2000's. The 2000's came and we stayed the same. It's the 2010's, Japan is still in the 2,000's. It's the 2020's, Japan will likely still be in the 2,000's."

We're not changing, but the world is. So we're stuck in the past, which attracts us to foreign stuff more. The quote gets dug up now because it's true even in 2024. The worst part is that our cities like Tokyo look like every other average city on the planet, just with some neon signs like Nashville, so there's not even any real cultural identity visually.
But for some reason, foreigners claim there is. Again, socially awkward.

Also, Singapore is a godtier mention. Most Japanese know Singapore or want to visit. It's known for four things:

1.) The best airport in the world (This is not up for debate. At all.)
2.) Among the best, most unique cities in the world for their policies on blending nature and manmade structures. Absolutely stunning.
3.) The Merlion.
4.) A multicultural dream for food, business, you name it.

I totally agree about all your points about Singapore. However, the thing that drags it down for me is that its expensive as fuck.
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02fran
05/17/24 8:35:22 PM
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ellis123 posted...
I did not say that it was. Just that it held just as much weight.

And don't throw stones in a glass house.

So a lot?
It's not throwing stones, I'm describing an observable phenomenon. Deep nerds who are self-conscious and self-deprecative about it often believe their interests are for losers because they surround themselves with the most addicted and socially stunted types and forget about the casual mainstream usage of them. Gamers, comic readers, anime watchers, DnD players, Trekkies, fans of most things in general.
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DKBananaSlamma
05/17/24 8:35:59 PM
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Wow, I appreciate your insight on Japan. Thanks for the interesting perspective!

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02fran
05/17/24 8:39:12 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
Wow, I appreciate your insight on Japan. Thanks for the interesting perspective!

If you're referring to Brokenspiral you shouldn't take anything he says seriously. He and lennethsoki are the same regularly suspended user who have been exposed for lying about themselves countless times. He pretends he's a black American critical of the black community on his lennethsoki account.
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