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S_A_S 05/18/24 5:43:36 AM #1: |
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PowerMan5000000 05/18/24 5:45:21 AM #2: |
I think the Prometheus movies ruined it a bit
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S_A_S 05/18/24 5:48:26 AM #3: |
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evilpresident 05/18/24 6:18:32 AM #4: |
The stupidity of the characters was very off-putting. Yes, let me remove my helmet on this alien planet. Yes, let me try and pet the alien creature coming out of the black ooze. Yes let's land on this random planet we know nothing about. Let's disturb the nature and sniff everything.
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MEGAsoldier 05/18/24 6:20:20 AM #5: |
evilpresident posted... The stupidity of the characters was very off-putting. Yes, let me remove my helmet on this alien planet. Yes, let me try and pet the alien creature coming out of the black ooze. Yes let's land on this random planet we know nothing about. Let's disturb the nature and sniff everything. Don't forget Charlize Theron's character running in a straight line ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Back_Stabbath 05/18/24 6:21:25 AM #6: |
Prometheus had a pretty damn cool OG script and the way they watered it down was crazy
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evilpresident 05/18/24 6:22:15 AM #7: |
MEGAsoldier posted...
Don't forget Charlize Theron's character running in a straight lineThat I could attribute to sheer panic. Cause I sure wouldn't be thinking straight either if a giant donut was rolling after me. --- Nothing to report here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thompson 05/18/24 6:36:58 AM #8: |
evilpresident posted...
The stupidity of the characters was very off-putting. Yes, let me remove my helmet on this alien planet. Yes, let me try and pet the alien creature coming out of the black ooze. Yes let's land on this random planet we know nothing about. Let's disturb the nature and sniff everything."These drones will explore the cave system for us and map it out so we won't have to worry about getting lost." *Some time later* "Damn, we got lost." --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 05/18/24 6:37:04 AM #9: |
Prometheus was fine. I hated the ending of Alien Covenant so, so much though.
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MEGAsoldier 05/18/24 6:41:49 AM #10: |
Goddamn this topic made me go back and watch the worm scene, calling these characters stupid is an understatement ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vivaldi7 05/18/24 6:42:16 AM #11: |
The creature has just lost its scare factor.
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mach25687 05/18/24 6:46:59 AM #12: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Prometheus was fine. I hated the ending of Alien Covenant so, so much though.No way in hell is Prometheus was fine, but Alien Covenant was so worse. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 05/18/24 6:59:57 AM #13: |
Prometheus was a solid movie. We can nitpick about characters acting recklessly. Lets not forget the original
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Gobstoppers12 05/18/24 2:23:56 PM #14: |
mach25687 posted...
No way in hell is Prometheus was fine, but Alien Covenant was so worse.Expecting characters to act smart in an action/horror movie is just unreasonable. If people in movies were smart, most plots wouldn't happen. That said, Prometheus is "fine," not particularly good. It had some neat scenes. Michael Fassbender was killing it. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 05/18/24 2:33:20 PM #15: |
It's just not being widely marketed yet. We have a teaser trailer and that's it. No one really cares yet.
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ClayGuida 05/18/24 2:37:15 PM #16: |
I think the problem is it looks like a story we've already seen, multiple times.
At least Prometheus tried something new with the franchise. 1 - Alien on a ship 2 - Alien in a colony 3 - Alien in a prison 4 - Alien on a ship but with guns Prometheus - Alien origin, kinda, but not really, but kinda, left on a great note leading to Covenant - on a ship, but also planet, but also completely skipped through the parts we wanted the Prometheus ending to get to, not really explaining shit at all in the first place, why even make this fucking movie Romulus - Alien on a ship...again...again. And I loved Prometheus until after the credits rolled and I started talking about it with friends, like so much stupid shit happens that it's astonishing that these are the best Earth has to offer. Then Covenant was fine, but it just completely removed all mystery and intrigue from Prometheus by simply handwaving it all away. What's worse is it wasn't even a different director, Ridley Scott did both, how? --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Link_of_time 05/18/24 2:50:16 PM #17: |
honestly, haven't seen much advertisement for it. This place is about the only time I hear about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkAssassin89 05/18/24 3:02:03 PM #18: |
Covenant steering away from focusing on engineers and back into xenomorphs was disappointing.
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s0nicfan 05/18/24 3:05:11 PM #19: |
The alien franchise has been a dumpster fire for longer than it's been good and I think at this point people are done giving it second chances. A new alien movie should probably get as much hype and attention as any other never-ending horror franchise.
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Hayame_Zero 05/18/24 3:08:09 PM #20: |
I'm interested because of Fede Alvarez being the writer/director, and I think it could be one of the best ones.
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AceMos 05/18/24 3:10:06 PM #21: |
Vivaldi7 posted...
The creature has just lost its scare factor.the game alien isolation showed youcan still make a xenomorph scary --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 05/18/24 3:11:17 PM #22: |
oh also reminder hack dirrector ridley scott wants to focus more on his stupid human villian than the xenomoprhs going forward
he said the alien convent failing is proof people dont want xenomorphs --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 05/18/24 3:14:53 PM #23: |
s0nicfan posted...
The alien franchise has been a dumpster fire for longer than it's been good and I think at this point people are done giving it second chances. A new alien movie should probably get as much hype and attention as any other never-ending horror franchise.This. I've been angry at the franchise since Alien 3. Not because it wasn't a good movie, it was. I just preferred the direction the comics took the story as opposed to the route Alien 3 and then Resurrection took. Though I will say Ron Perlman was fucking great in Resurrection. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkAssassin89 05/18/24 3:35:08 PM #24: |
AceMos posted...
oh also reminder hack dirrector ridley scott wants to focus more on his stupid human villian than the xenomoprhs going forward Engineers had potential. Xenomorphs have been squeezed dry. --- Dark89 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 05/18/24 3:59:58 PM #25: |
DarkAssassin89 posted...
Engineers had potential. Xenomorphs have been squeezed dry.We really should have seen Engineers and Xenomorphs together. I still don't even recall what the Engineers were running from in Prometheus, since it clearly wasn't xenomorphs. --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Link_of_time 05/18/24 4:04:32 PM #26: |
Getting away from the engineers and what they did to shaw really soured covenant for me. I'm still interested in Romulus, but it honestly llooks like a retread of first movie. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 05/18/24 4:07:40 PM #27: |
i dont like the idea of the xenomoprhs being artificially created period no matter who did it
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BearlyWilling 05/18/24 4:23:49 PM #28: |
Sunhawk topic
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C-zom 05/18/24 4:24:17 PM #29: |
Back_Stabbath posted...
Prometheus had a pretty damn cool OG script and the way they watered it down was crazy Ridley Scott saying he's getting old and on with life, and wanting to wrap up his Alien canon with some awesome but bugnuts lore was something I was 200% on board with. The prometheus rewrites are abysmal, and he didn't even have the balls to stand by his thrice-rewritten story in the sequel he directed. In short he chickened out twice and instead made two hazy, inconclusive, garbage movies because he couldn't commit to his vision. --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C-zom 05/18/24 4:26:22 PM #30: |
AceMos posted...
i dont like the idea of the xenomoprhs being artificially created period no matter who did it It made complete sense in the original scripts and was actually quite eerie. Master Geneticists make an oops, big time, is so much better than --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mach25687 05/18/24 4:28:09 PM #31: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Expecting characters to act smart in an action/horror movie is just unreasonable. If people in movies were smart, most plots wouldn't happen.That doesn't save the movie, it sucks. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 05/18/24 4:28:43 PM #32: |
After prometheus and covenant I could not care less about Aliens
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KiwiTerraRizing 05/18/24 4:29:53 PM #33: |
Not everything needs a backstory.
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Villain_S_Fiend 05/18/24 4:32:25 PM #34: |
The reason this looks appealing to me is that it seems to be returning to stripped-down, claustrophobic horror, which is what I want from an Alien movie.
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AceMos 05/18/24 5:30:58 PM #35: |
C-zom posted...
Ridley Scott saying he's getting old and on with life, and wanting to wrap up his Alien canon with some awesome but bugnuts lore was something I was 200% on board with. The prometheus rewrites are abysmal, and he didn't even have the balls to stand by his thrice-rewritten story in the sequel he directed.ridley scott did not creat the aliens franchise he did not write the original film and had fuck all to do with the rest of the franchise till promeotheus why the fuck does he get to be the golden goose who gets to come in and shit all over things --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 05/18/24 5:33:10 PM #36: |
C-zom posted...
It made complete sense in the original scripts and was actually quite eerie. Master Geneticists make an oops, big time, is so much better thani do not give a fuck them not being a natural species makes them less scary humans think they are the ultimate species then they encounter this species and its superior to us they are smarter than us and biologically superior to us even advanced scifi weapons where inferior to them as shown in aliens --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 05/18/24 5:34:38 PM #37: |
They were implied as weapons even in the first Alien film. Not a stretch to say they were not natural.
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dancing_cactuar 05/18/24 5:45:34 PM #38: |
Literally the only good thing about Alien Covenant was Michael Fassbender's acting and the scenes where he plays alongside himself.
LightningAce11 posted... They were implied as weapons even in the first Alien film. Not a stretch to say they were not natural."A perfect organism. Its structural perfection matched only by its hostility. Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality." Sounds like something created straight out of a lab. --- PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX Game devs don't deserve money- Zithers, in a topic he made on a game site about artists deserving money. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 05/18/24 5:48:21 PM #39: |
dancing_cactuar posted...
"A perfect organism. Its structural perfection matched only by its hostility. Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."not really no ive legit hear similar things said about real life creatures on earth and they sure as fuck where not created in a lab --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 05/18/24 7:14:47 PM #40: |
The problem with the xenomorph is that studios are afraid to let it be what it was designed to be. It's an invasive species that absorbs the DNA of its victims and takes on new forms as part of that. The problem is the original alien design became so iconic that now the very species whose defining trait is morphing is locked into like three forms.
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AceMos 05/18/24 7:30:06 PM #41: |
s0nicfan posted...
The problem with the xenomorph is that studios are afraid to let it be what it was designed to be. It's an invasive species that absorbs the DNA of its victims and takes on new forms as part of that. The problem is the original alien design became so iconic that now the very species whose defining trait is morphing is locked into like three forms.to be fair its kinda hard to get a none human to a face hugger if a xenomorph queen got on earth to lay eggs to get animals infected well thats game over for humanity int heory you could maybe do a space station zoo but well this could also run the risk of the games have where xenomorphs are fodderized --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetuenOfDevsman 05/18/24 7:33:52 PM #42: |
Alien and Aliens were killer
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Hyena_Of_Ice 05/18/24 7:59:45 PM #43: |
MEGAsoldier posted... Don't forget Charlize Theron's character running in a straight line To be completely fair.... Their options were either run in a straight line under the rolling space ship, or move out of the way and die via the heavy rain of fire and debris. honestly, haven't seen much advertisement for it. This place is about the only time I hear about it. Yeah, I'm guessing this is a significant factor. Expecting characters to act smart in an action/horror movie is just unreasonable. If people in movies were smart, most plots wouldn't happen. I disagree. Take a look at Life. Yeah, the entire human race *not just the characters* were stupid as hell, but aside from a few very major instances (the flamethrower/fuel one being completely understandable), their stupidity did not drive the plot. A clusterfuck of worst-case scenario events (think Final Destination-lite) combined with the bad guy's invincibility and intelligence drove the plot. That said, some people complained about said clusterfuck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dancing_cactuar 05/18/24 8:06:00 PM #44: |
Hyena_Of_Ice posted...
I disagree. Take a look at Life. Yeah, the entire human race *not just the characters* were stupid as hell, but aside from a few very major instances (the flamethrower/fuel one being completely understandable), their stupidity did not drive the plot. A clusterfuck of worst-case scenario events (think Final Destination-lite) combined with the bad guy's invincibility and intelligence drove the plot. That said, some people complained about said clusterfuck.Another great example imo is The Thing, where aside from maybe Clark who drank too much of the stupid juice, they were all operating on paranoia, desperation, or lack of understanding, all which are clearly distinct from stupidity. --- PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX Game devs don't deserve money- Zithers, in a topic he made on a game site about artists deserving money. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Link_of_time 05/18/24 10:01:41 PM #45: |
Hyena_Of_Ice posted... To be completely fair.... Their options were either run in a straight line under the rolling space ship, or move out of the way and die via the heavy rain of fire and debris.Wasn't like the entire trouble of that movie caused by pretty much the crews own actions? It's been a while since I've seen it, and I know the lifeform does outsmart them a lot, but there were definitely some stupid decisions. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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