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cousinvini
05/20/24 8:18:36 AM
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https://berkeleyearth.org/april-2024-temperature-update/

Not a good sign


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RetuenOfDevsman
05/20/24 8:23:26 AM
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I'm an xkcd fan, and one of the things he always harps on is the global temperature rising. Which is a good thing to harp on because it's important.

But one of the things I wish I could ask is how was the ice age only 4C cooler than today?

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rexcrk
05/20/24 8:43:32 AM
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It legit annoys me when it gets that hot so early and people are like omg iTs So NiCe OuT

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/20/24 8:46:30 AM
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rexcrk posted...
It legit annoys me when it gets that hot so early and people are like omg iTs So NiCe OuT
Probably just cold natured. I'm cold natured and I love the summer. In the shade, I could hang out all day even if it's up to like 95F.

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Irony
05/20/24 8:47:10 AM
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Seems bad

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LeoRavus
05/20/24 8:48:51 AM
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I think the climate is more fucked than we're being told.

When I was a kid we had a decent snow just about every winter. For the past few years we're lucky to get a dusting that's gone within a day or two. I haven't had to shovel my driveway for over a decade.

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SpawnShadow
05/20/24 8:59:16 AM
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rexcrk posted...
It legit annoys me when it gets that hot so early and people are like omg iTs So NiCe OuT
This. If it's not snowing and I'm not in an air-conditioned building, I'm roasting. Mostly because it's so damned humid.
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rexcrk
05/20/24 3:51:43 PM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
Probably just cold natured. I'm cold natured and I love the summer. In the shade, I could hang out all day even if it's up to like 95F.
Its not even that I dont like the heat (which I dont lol but its truly the humidity I have a problem with) but its just not supposed to be that hot this early in the year (at least where I live) and its like, instead of celebrating that, lets be more concerned about global warming.

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TyVulpine
05/20/24 3:56:27 PM
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"GlObAl WaRmInG iS a MyTh!"

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DarthAragorn
05/20/24 4:00:26 PM
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rexcrk posted...
Its not even that I dont like the heat (which I dont lol but its truly the humidity I have a problem with) but its just not supposed to be that hot this early in the year (at least where I live) and its like, instead of celebrating that, lets be more concerned about global warming.
I am really dreading July and August. Can it just be December again

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theAteam
05/20/24 4:01:39 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d8f29126.jpg

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Enclave
05/20/24 4:06:42 PM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
But one of the things I wish I could ask is how was the ice age only 4C cooler than today?

Because it's a measurement of global averages not the temp in specific locations.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/20/24 5:08:40 PM
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Enclave posted...
Because it's a measurement of global averages not the temp in specific locations.
What am I supposed to do with this information, though?

Like, was the temperature in modern-day Honduras 70C warmer to make up for it being cold enough elsewhere?

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kirbymuncher
05/20/24 5:22:29 PM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
What am I supposed to do with this information, though?
It's hard to really think/reason about but one interesting thing is that the global average temperature is probably a lot lower than you'd expect. It's around 14-15C

So something like a 4C drop (although I kinda remember hearing the ice ages were 6-7C colder than today) is pretty significant difference. Imagine you add another 1-2 months of snow to the year, while simultaneously removing 1-2 months of time for the snow from the previous year to melt. Suddenly you're gonna be getting longterm snow build-up in a lot of places that weren't, before

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Unsuprised_Pika
05/20/24 5:25:29 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
It's hard to really think/reason about but one interesting thing is that the global average temperature is probably a lot lower than you'd expect. It's around 14-15C

So something like a 4C drop (although I kinda remember hearing the ice ages were 6-7C colder than today) is pretty significant difference. Imagine you add another 1-2 months of snow to the year, while simultaneously removing 1-2 months of time for the snow from the previous year to melt. Suddenly you're gonna be getting longterm snow build-up in a lot of places that weren't, before

Yup. Also its not like the entire planet was like Antartica.

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Prismsblade
05/20/24 5:35:56 PM
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rexcrk posted...
It legit annoys me when it gets that hot so early and people are like omg iTs So NiCe OuT
In regards to global warming its usually only the extreme cold and or heat that worries people. If youre in my state and had a very mild winter because of it(maybe) you likely arent going care as much as say, TX? Perhaps that getting a heat wave soon I believe.

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UnsteadyOwl
05/20/24 5:47:11 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
In regards to global warming its usually only the extreme cold and or heat that worries people. If youre in my state and had a very mild winter because of it(maybe) you likely arent going care as much as say, TX? Perhaps that getting a heat wave soon I believe.
India's been going through a bad heat wave. Parts of New Delhi reached 116 degrees on Friday. People are being urged not to go outside in the afternoon if they can avoid it.

https://apnews.com/article/new-delhi-india-heat-wave-deabaa7f53365d6a9fa75b580220ad59

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Enclave
05/20/24 5:49:00 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
In regards to global warming its usually only the extreme cold and or heat that worries people.

If by people you mean the average person who doesn't really understand what's going on? Then yes.

It's not just the extremes that matter though, everything in between impacts food production and the water table.

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DementedDurian
05/20/24 5:55:06 PM
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Well, duh. Coal burning and a natural upswing of hotness from the Ice Age will do that.

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lucariopikmin
05/20/24 6:05:32 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
So something like a 4C drop (although I kinda remember hearing the ice ages were 6-7C colder than today) is pretty significant difference. Imagine you add another 1-2 months of snow to the year, while simultaneously removing 1-2 months of time for the snow from the previous year to melt. Suddenly you're gonna be getting longterm snow build-up in a lot of places that weren't, before
All the extra ice and snow also reflects more sunlight so it would melt even slower and make it more likely to get more ice/snow to buildup.

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GrandConjuraton
05/20/24 6:06:25 PM
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TyVulpine posted...
"GlObAl WaRmInG iS a MyTh!"


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Strider102
05/20/24 6:06:38 PM
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Won't be much longer now

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KitKats
05/20/24 6:07:32 PM
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The public is largely unaware of the gravity of the situation, with the impending collapse of modern civilization and probable extinction of the human race fast approaching (along with most other forms of life on Earth.)

We are already at about 1.5C above pre-industrial avg temperatures (1850 baseline) and will hit +2C by the next decade. It is accelerating, with no feasible means to slow it down or much less reverse the heating.

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LoZguy709
05/20/24 6:17:03 PM
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I'm really hoping for as close as we can get to a major Democratic win Congressionally after this summer, or else it really does look like the future is fucked, if not already. Obviously, it's not just the U.S. that's a factor in this, but seeing the level of standard we set in global commerce, I'd hope to see a quick trend toward actually constructively doing real work about mitigating and reversing the effects of climate change.

The Inflation Reduction Act took so long to pass because of people like Joe Manchin, so there needs to be a big enough win that people like him don't need to be placated. Ideally meeting the criteria to get around filibuster problems.
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Strider102
05/20/24 6:19:55 PM
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KitKats posted...
The public is largely unaware of the gravity of the situation, with the impending collapse of modern civilization and probable extinction of the human race fast approaching (along with most other forms of life on Earth.)

We are already at about 1.5C above pre-industrial avg temperatures (1850 baseline) and will hit +2C by the next decade. It is accelerating, with no feasible means to slow it down or much less reverse the heating.

It's mainly the fact that people just don't care, but also because some people think it's fake news because Republicans told them it was.

Then you have some people that say "Oh, this person talks about climate change but contributes to it? Yeah imma just ignore you then."

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LoZguy709
05/20/24 6:24:06 PM
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Strider102 posted...
It's mainly the fact that people just don't care, but also because some people think it's fake news because Republicans told them it was.

Then you have some people that say "Oh, this person talks about climate change but contributes to it? Yeah imma just ignore you then."

On the other hand, if people were to all magically start caring and want to see governmental and private sector projects invested in to combat the excess carbon in the atmosphere (like through growing abundant plan life known to consume it at high levels but I'm sure that's not the full extent of what we can do), it feels like we could take a lot quicker control of the situation that we're led to believe.

Edit: Along with major infrastructural change like switching away from gas and coal.
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Strider102
05/20/24 6:25:28 PM
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LoZguy709 posted...
On the other hand, if people were to all magically start caring and want to see governmental and private sector projects invested in to combat the excess carbon in the atmosphere (like through growing abundant plan life known to consume it at high levels but I'm sure that's not the full extent of what we can do), it feels like we could take a lot quicker control of the situation that we're led to believe.

This is true to an extent. You're never going to get the primary cause to stop though, because money is more important than a planet we can live on.

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KitKats
05/20/24 6:27:44 PM
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LoZguy709 posted...
I'm really hoping for as close as we can get to a major Democratic win Congressionally after this summer, or else it really does look like the future is fucked, if not already. Obviously, it's not just the U.S. that's a factor in this, but seeing the level of standard we set in global commerce, I'd hope to see a quick trend toward actually constructively doing real work about mitigating and reversing the effects of climate change.

The Inflation Reduction Act took so long to pass because of people like Joe Manchin, so there needs to be a big enough win that people like him don't need to be placated. Ideally meeting the criteria to get around filibuster problems.
We already have 4C+ warming baked into the system by the end of the century by conservative estimates, which that amount of warming alone in such a short time span spells mass extinction for complex life on Earth. There is no way to reverse that without removing massive amounts of CO2 from the atmosphere with nonexistent or otherwise magical technology.

We cannot maintain the current population without fossil fuels anyway. Our entire civilization and way of life is built upon exploiting energy from fossil fuels along with mass agriculture.

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LoZguy709
05/20/24 6:30:01 PM
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Strider102 posted...
This is true to an extent. You're never going to get the primary cause to stop though, because money is more important than a planet we can live on.

Haha right, which is why the hypothetical was in a magical world. But the more awareness among the general population, the better hope we have that we'll vote for the right leaders to make the right key decisions of where to invest. But obviously that still leaves us with the very real problem of slow progress.
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Heineken14
05/20/24 6:30:12 PM
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KitKats posted...
The public is largely unaware of the gravity of the situation, with the impending collapse of modern civilization and probable extinction of the human race fast approaching (along with most other forms of life on Earth.)

We are already at about 1.5C above pre-industrial avg temperatures (1850 baseline) and will hit +2C by the next decade. It is accelerating, with no feasible means to slow it down or much less reverse the heating.

Yeah, the general public simply thinks of it as "hurrr durrr summer get hotter!" and not any of the other implications of it. Someone else already mentioned it having a negative impact on crops, but what about arid and desert regions that are now facing larger droughts and making it tougher and tougher to live there. You will see more mass migration as well as more conflict of people trying to control resources. But, you know "I'm fine with it going up a half a degree in summer!"

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_____Cait
05/20/24 6:33:33 PM
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you can thank Exxon for that

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Cemith
05/20/24 6:35:51 PM
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So what's the over under on human extinction? 150 years?


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LoZguy709
05/20/24 6:39:19 PM
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KitKats posted...
We already have 4C+ warming baked into the system by the end of the century by conservative estimates, which that amount of warming alone in such a short time span spells mass extinction for complex life on Earth. There is no way to reverse that without removing massive amounts of CO2 from the atmosphere with nonexistent or otherwise magical technology.

We cannot maintain the current population without fossil fuels anyway. Our entire civilization and way of life is built upon exploiting energy from fossil fuels along with mass agriculture.

It still seems our best hope to have a system to remove excess carbon or a means of keeping the Earth's temperature ( / generally shitty air quality) somehow artificially lower (though the latter suggestion is admittedly outlandish-seeming and would just be a temporary fix most likely even if it could exist). I don't know the how, but technology does have a way of growing exponentially with enough focus. Maybe we find a way to accelerate plant life growth for species that take in carbon at high rates? A means by which we convert carbon into something else? Point is I don't have any answers, even more so now that I'm smoking, but throwing in the towel and accepting mass extinction seems premature when we don't know what technology we could have to our availability in the future.
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Metal_Gear_Raxis
05/22/24 7:09:00 PM
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I must have gotten lucky, where I live it was cooler overall than last year. Hottest day was only 86 compared to 94 in '23 and we had more below average dips than last year, too.

Kinda like how everyone was saying '23 was a doomsday summer but in California it was way better than the year before it.

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