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Rath_Attack 05/20/24 1:59:06 PM #52:	Pretty sure I seen discussion on OT about Light that fell along those lines, can probably find some on Reddit if I went browsing. --- https://imgur.com/Id8bUit Rath_Attack by NoblWolf <cite>Rath_Attack posted [p:980477538] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure I seen discussion on OT about Light that fell along those lines, can probably find some on Reddit if I went browsing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rath_Attack 05/20/24 2:20:28 PM #54:	Is the second character an actual example or hypothetical, because I don't really get where you're going with Light. --- https://imgur.com/Id8bUit Rath_Attack by NoblWolf <cite>Rath_Attack posted [p:980477791] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Is the second character an actual example or hypothetical, because I don't really get where you're going with Light. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 05/20/24 2:32:21 PM #55:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's actually more an example that people lack basic media literacy no different than some of the braindead takes I've heard about Walter White as both are without question the main antagonists of their own stories. Near was 100% correct in his conclusion that Light is just a mass murderer who got drunk on the power of the Death Note, and the moment he wrote Lind L Taylor's name in the Death Note out of spite was when he proved this. --- PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX Game devs don't deserve money- Zithers, in a topic he made on a game site about artists deserving money. <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:980477975] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It's actually more an example that people lack basic media literacy no different than some of the braindead takes I've heard about Walter White as both are without question the main antagonists of their own stories. Near was 100% correct in his conclusion that Light is just a mass murderer who got drunk on the power of the Death Note, and the moment he wrote Lind L Taylor's name in the Death Note out of spite was when he proved this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rath_Attack 05/20/24 3:19:03 PM #57:	Phrased that wrong. Is the mass child rapist you mentioned an actual character in a work or a hypothetical character used for the discussion? --- https://imgur.com/Id8bUit Rath_Attack by NoblWolf <cite>Rath_Attack posted [p:980478604] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Phrased that wrong. Is the mass child rapist you mentioned an actual character in a work or a hypothetical character used for the discussion? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 05/20/24 3:22:48 PM #58:	Whenever I finish a piece of media, I check its entry for neat things I missed out/didn't pick up on Whenever I hear about/read about something I haven't heard of before, I check its page to see what it is. Especially for video games, it explains them much better than something like Wikipedia, while being much more concise than a review. That's its value to me --- [teep is] an evil genius who will one day kill us all - Choco teep is a God damn genius - Zodd <cite>teep_ posted [p:980478649] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Whenever I finish a piece of media, I check its entry for neat things I missed out/didn't pick up onWhenever I hear about/read about something I haven't heard of before, I check its page to see what it is. Especially for video games, it explains them much better than something like Wikipedia, while being much more concise than a review. That's its value to me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MorganTJ 05/20/24 3:29:21 PM #60:	discodancer77 posted... Helps me discover new games and movies This, it has some uses. I constantly see threads similar to "are there any series where you end up fighting the protagonist of the previous entry???" and the site sorts them by type of media if you're looking for that sort of thing. <cite>MorganTJ posted [p:980478733] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>discodancer77 posted... </cite><quote>Helps me discover new games and movies</quote>This, it has some uses. I constantly see threads similar to "are there any series where you end up fighting the protagonist of the previous entry???" and the site sorts them by type of media if you're looking for that sort of thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 05/20/24 3:30:48 PM #61:	Guide posted... "x has no value" >describes value of x Pretty much --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:980478755] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite><quote>"x has no value">describes value of x</quote>Pretty much </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rharyx211 05/20/24 3:31:34 PM #62:	Nah, I love tvtropes. --- Watch our "BLEACH Can't Fear Your Own World" full fandub: https://youtu.be/a2s_RdYM_pE?si=5kHTTbvJX4CY8Zk8 <cite>Rharyx211 posted [p:980478766] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Nah, I love tvtropes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rath_Attack 05/20/24 3:38:40 PM #63:	GiggetySplicer posted... It was an actual character in a work that the thread voted on. It was 1 to 2 years ago so I wouldn't be able to find it but if you've lurked those threads for any length you'd regularly see mass murdering villains like this responsible for dozens to millions of deaths dropped because of some minor signs of genuine love somewhere or a pet the dog moment or not being as bad as even worse villains. These are of course not things people outside the site would consider to automatically override any amount of heinousness. Seen people do that for much less. --- https://imgur.com/Id8bUit Rath_Attack by NoblWolf <cite>Rath_Attack posted [p:980478873] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>GiggetySplicer posted...</cite><quote>It was an actual character in a work that the thread voted on. It was 1 to 2 years ago so I wouldn't be able to find it but if you've lurked those threads for any length you'd regularly see mass murdering villains like this responsible for dozens to millions of deaths dropped because of some minor signs of genuine love somewhere or a pet the dog moment or not being as bad as even worse villains. These are of course not things people outside the site would consider to automatically override any amount of heinousness. </quote>Seen people do that for much less. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dabrikishaw15 05/20/24 3:51:04 PM #65:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah this. This shit with the new admins and how they handled the one of older moderators immunity to any wrongdoing he did convinced me to leave the site. --- 3DS FC: 4382 - 2449 - 5707 IGN: Anthony <cite>Dabrikishaw15 posted [p:980479042] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yeah this. This shit with the new admins and how they handled the one of older moderators immunity to any wrongdoing he did convinced me to leave the site. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VGAddict90 05/20/24 3:51:07 PM #66:	OK, cool. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure we were all waiting with bated breath for your take on TV Tropes. <cite>VGAddict90 posted [p:980479043] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>OK, cool. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure we were all waiting with bated breath for your take on TV Tropes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VGAddict90 05/20/24 3:52:27 PM #67:	TV Tropes, RLM, and Everything Wrong With... gave birth to an entire legion of wannabe media analysts. <cite>VGAddict90 posted [p:980479063] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>TV Tropes, RLM, and Everything Wrong With... gave birth to an entire legion of wannabe media analysts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KyasarinTsuu 05/20/24 3:56:18 PM #68:	I kinda like looking at the YMMV page to see what insights I could get on something I just consumed. Sometimes, seeing other perspectives can make me think about things in different ways. The site is otherwise just kinda trash. It's a bunch of obsessives who want to label and categorize everything even when it doesn't fit, openly stretching definitions or even saying that something is "averted" or "inverted" just so they can make the tropes list bigger. People who want to control language with their stupid inside-jokey terminology. It's crazy how often "some people think" is used to mask some isolated person's vent or bad opinion about something. <cite>KyasarinTsuu posted [p:980479105] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>I kinda like looking at the YMMV page to see what insights I could get on something I just consumed. Sometimes, seeing other perspectives can make me think about things in different ways.The site is otherwise just kinda trash. It's a bunch of obsessives who want to label and categorize everything even when it doesn't fit, openly stretching definitions or even saying that something is "averted" or "inverted" just so they can make the tropes list bigger. People who want to control language with their stupid inside-jokey terminology. It's crazy how often "some people think" is used to mask some isolated person's vent or bad opinion about something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 05/20/24 3:59:10 PM #69:	Quezovercoatl posted... Thinking something has no value because it has no value to you is pretty narrow-minded. What's wrong with letting people just have fun? But they're having fun wrong. --- Currently playing: Rune Factory 5 (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:980479135] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Quezovercoatl posted... </cite><quote>Thinking something has no value because it has no value to you is pretty narrow-minded. What's wrong with letting people just have fun?</quote>But they're having fun wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philip027 05/20/24 4:02:44 PM #70:	TVtropes introduced me to asexuality and its associated community, which directly led to me meeting the person who's now my spouse, so no, I'd say it was quite valuable to me. <cite>Philip027 posted [p:980479178] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>TVtropes introduced me to asexuality and its associated community, which directly led to me meeting the person who's now my spouse, so no, I'd say it was quite valuable to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarcyWarcy 05/20/24 4:21:44 PM #72:	the worst part of tvtropes is its created this super annoying thing where people talk about fiction now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking about --- Looks like this gamer's paradise has turned into a gamer's hell............................................... <cite>MarcyWarcy posted [p:980479399] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>the worst part of tvtropes is its created this super annoying thing where people talk about fiction now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking about </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rath_Attack 05/20/24 4:22:37 PM #73:	GiggetySplicer posted... What are you talking about? Could be me misinterpreting what you were saying, but I seen people actively downplaying a character's heinousness for reasons worse than "not a complete asshole, just 99%". And it might vary case by case, but I don't think whether or not a character is labeled a Complete Monster is stance on how bad their actions are. I can get the issue with not including Made of Evil characters, but there's a point regarding agency. --- https://imgur.com/Id8bUit Rath_Attack by NoblWolf <cite>Rath_Attack posted [p:980479407] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>GiggetySplicer posted...</cite><quote>What are you talking about?</quote>Could be me misinterpreting what you were saying, but I seen people actively downplaying a character's heinousness for reasons worse than "not a complete asshole, just 99%". And it might vary case by case, but I don't think whether or not a character is labeled a Complete Monster is stance on how bad their actions are. I can get the issue with not including Made of Evil characters, but there's a point regarding agency. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX2010 05/20/24 4:29:29 PM #74:	TV Tropes is good for looking up tropes in media, but dont look up games in certain genres. The Souls-like RPG page has so many games on it that arent souls-like at all. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoulsLikeRPG How are Metroid and Onimusha Souls-like? --- NNID: ZeroXJerry <cite>ZeroX2010 posted [p:980479509] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>TV Tropes is good for looking up tropes in media, but dont look up games in certain genres. The Souls-like RPG page has so many games on it that arent souls-like at all. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoulsLikeRPGHow are Metroid and Onimusha Souls-like? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 05/20/24 4:34:16 PM #75:	MarcyWarcy posted... the worst part of tvtropes is its created this super annoying thing where people talk about fiction now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking about such as? --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:980479572] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>MarcyWarcy posted... </cite><quote>the worst part of tvtropes is its created this super annoying thing where people talk about fiction now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking about</quote>such as? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KyasarinTsuu 05/20/24 4:40:22 PM #76:	It's funny how calling things "The Scrappy" has pretty much solidified the meme hate towards the character. <cite>KyasarinTsuu posted [p:980479657] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>It's funny how calling things "The Scrappy" has pretty much solidified the meme hate towards the character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rath_Attack 05/20/24 4:48:39 PM #77:	MarcyWarcy posted... the worst part of tvtropes is its created this super annoying thing where people talk about fiction now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking about That something that existed before tvtropes and still happens without it. Pretty sure Talk no Jutsu wasn't a tvtropes invention, but it tends to pop up almost anywhere outside it's specific sphere. Tvtropes just tends to be a convenient for it I guess. --- https://imgur.com/Id8bUit Rath_Attack by NoblWolf <cite>Rath_Attack posted [p:980479778] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>MarcyWarcy posted...</cite><quote>the worst part of tvtropes is its created this super annoying thing where people talk about fiction now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking about</quote>That something that existed before tvtropes and still happens without it. Pretty sure Talk no Jutsu wasn't a tvtropes invention, but it tends to pop up almost anywhere outside it's specific sphere. Tvtropes just tends to be a convenient for it I guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheShadowViper 05/20/24 5:00:52 PM #79:	Tropes have been a thing since the dawn of humanity and simply describe ways of storytelling. TV tropes simply gives a more concise amalgamation of information that was previously exclusive to different groups (fandoms and genre critics mostly). It isn't to be taken that seriously but can give a decent insight into certain ideas. No one wants to continually explain why some element of a media property resonates with them or why it is poor storytelling and tropes are one way to short hand the explanation. MarcyWarcy posted... now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking about One of the reasons tropes exist is to do exactly what you are describing, which is take the burden of explanations off the person who knows what they are talking about and onto the person who doesn't. <cite>TheShadowViper posted [p:980479933] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Tropes have been a thing since the dawn of humanity and simply describe ways of storytelling.TV tropes simply gives a more concise amalgamation of information that was previously exclusive to different groups (fandoms and genre critics mostly). It isn't to be taken that seriously but can give a decent insight into certain ideas.No one wants to continually explain why some element of a media property resonates with them or why it is poor storytelling and tropes are one way to short hand the explanation.MarcyWarcy posted... </cite><quote>now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking about</quote>One of the reasons tropes exist is to do exactly what you are describing, which is take the burden of explanations off the person who knows what they are talking about and onto the person who doesn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 05/20/24 5:02:45 PM #80:	I like TVTropes because it basically turns us all into the aliens from the Darmok episode of TNG --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:980479953] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>I like TVTropes because it basically turns us all into the aliens from the Darmok episode of TNG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/20/24 5:03:21 PM #81:	sounds like most of the internet --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:980479965] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>sounds like most of the internet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rath_Attack 05/20/24 5:11:00 PM #82:	GiggetySplicer posted... I'm saying nobody outside of Tvtropes has all their little technicalities and criteria such as any amount of supposed genuine care, how much resources they have, how off-screen their actions are to describe monstrous evil villains. It's pretty easy to note when a villain is supposed to be monstrously evil that the fanbase also feels that "actually he once had a pet mouse he didn't kill" doesn't override. Rath_Attack posted... Seen people do that for much less. --- https://imgur.com/Id8bUit Rath_Attack by NoblWolf <cite>Rath_Attack posted [p:980480057] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>GiggetySplicer posted...</cite><quote>I'm saying nobody outside of Tvtropes has all their little technicalities and criteria such as any amount of supposed genuine care, how much resources they have, how off-screen their actions are to describe monstrous evil villains. It's pretty easy to note when a villain is supposed to be monstrously evil that the fanbase also feels that "actually he once had a pet mouse he didn't kill" doesn't override. </quote>Rath_Attack posted...</cite><quote>Seen people do that for much less.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rath_Attack 05/20/24 5:40:29 PM #84:	GiggetySplicer posted... People can have personal feelings for a character but they generally acknowledge that. That heavily depends on the person. A fandom's general consensus is much easier to realize if a character is seen as monstrously evil or not. Also heavily depends on the fandom. I've been in various "X was right" arguments to understand that you can very much have a clear section of a fanbase that can and will lionize some of the worst characters of a work or downplay how bad a character's actions are despite how clear cut it's in the story itself. It can get worse when the story isn't constantly slapping in the face with how heinous a character is. --- https://imgur.com/Id8bUit Rath_Attack by NoblWolf <cite>Rath_Attack posted [p:980480416] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>GiggetySplicer posted...</cite><quote>People can have personal feelings for a character but they generally acknowledge that.</quote>That heavily depends on the person.<quote>A fandom's general consensus is much easier to realize if a character is seen as monstrously evil or not.</quote>Also heavily depends on the fandom. I've been in various "X was right" arguments to understand that you can very much have a clear section of a fanbase that can and will lionize some of the worst characters of a work or downplay how bad a character's actions are despite how clear cut it's in the story itself. It can get worse when the story isn't constantly slapping in the face with how heinous a character is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 05/20/24 6:23:24 PM #86:	It was a joke site back in early 2008-2010. Now people act like it has merit or something. Its making fun of movies. It is not an encyclopedia like how people treat it. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:980480961] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>It was a joke site back in early 2008-2010. Now people act like it has merit or something. Its making fun of movies. It is not an encyclopedia like how people treat it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthDemented 05/20/24 6:35:43 PM #87:	It's useful for shitter reading when you've exhausted your usuals. --- Paula Wood. My love, my life. 1980-2021 https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198210788964/#sort=order <cite>DarthDemented posted [p:980481138] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>It's useful for shitter reading when you've exhausted your usuals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 05/20/24 6:47:59 PM #88:	TV tropes is trash and just contributes to media illiteracy. Yes, tropes exist but are more building blocks than anything. Theyre not cliches like so many people say. Its all about trying to categorise everything, even if it doesnt make sense to the point where they go oh wow these two people from these two different media get angry after someone dies! Is that really worth pointing out and labelling? --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:980481312] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>TV tropes is trash and just contributes to media illiteracy. Yes, tropes exist but are more building blocks than anything. Theyre not cliches like so many people say. Its all about trying to categorise everything, even if it doesnt make sense to the point where they go oh wow these two people from these two different media get angry after someone dies! Is that really worth pointing out and labelling? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Piplup_Sniper 05/20/24 6:51:34 PM #89:	Some of the info there is inaccurate to the source material. --- Forbid it, Almighty God! <cite>Piplup_Sniper posted [p:980481379] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Some of the info there is inaccurate to the source material. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 05/20/24 7:02:45 PM #90:	TV Tropes does have a habit of locking down and institute a "no real life examples" policy, which can be both good and bad. For instance, the page on Donald Trump is locked from editing, only mentions that he was the US President from 2016-20, and goes through none of his presidential controversies. The page on DSP was also deleted due to it being used to complain about him. Here are some interesting reads on deleted tropes and works banned from the site, largely due to NSFW content like Bible Black and Boku No Pico. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/TheContentPolicy --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:980481567] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>TV Tropes does have a habit of locking down and institute a "no real life examples" policy, which can be both good and bad. For instance, the page on Donald Trump is locked from editing, only mentions that he was the US President from 2016-20, and goes through none of his presidential controversies. The page on DSP was also deleted due to it being used to complain about him.Here are some interesting reads on deleted tropes and works banned from the site, largely due to NSFW content like Bible Black and Boku No Pico.https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClubhttps://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/TheContentPolicy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rath_Attack 05/20/24 7:57:33 PM #92:	GiggetySplicer posted... Are you part of that thread? You're shilling for them so hard it's hard to imagine you're doing so without having a personal stake in it yet you seem ignorant of the stuff that have went down there. Going "u-um anyone can be like that" doesn't matter. The point is they're nitpicky and pedantic about their arbitrary and detached technicalities beyond what most rational viewers are which drove them to create an insulated culture filled with unfriendly cliques. And this isn't even me. This is what they themselves acknowledged on the header of their first thread. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok Oh goody we're at this part of the discussion. Not sure how I'm shilling for them by pointing out some fandoms don't have a clear consensus on certain characters, particularly when you yourself seem against an example because it's "debatable". The point I was raising with Light wasn't even a matter of whether or not I agree with him being a Complete Monster, but that their interpretation is something that exists outside their insulated culture. Then there's my personal experience in that I've come across takes that easily differ simply based of what site I'm on, for example I've been massively downvoted on Reddit for saying I don't like particular characters whereas elsewhere the reaction them can noticeably more mixed. --- https://imgur.com/Id8bUit Rath_Attack by NoblWolf <cite>Rath_Attack posted [p:980482335] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>GiggetySplicer posted...</cite><quote>Are you part of that thread? You're shilling for them so hard it's hard to imagine you're doing so without having a personal stake in it yet you seem ignorant of the stuff that have went down there. Going "u-um anyone can be like that" doesn't matter. The point is they're nitpicky and pedantic about their arbitrary and detached technicalities beyond what most rational viewers are which drove them to create an insulated culture filled with unfriendly cliques. And this isn't even me. This is what they themselves acknowledged on the header of their first thread.https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok</quote>Oh goody we're at this part of the discussion. Not sure how I'm shilling for them by pointing out some fandoms don't have a clear consensus on certain characters, particularly when you yourself seem against an example because it's "debatable". The point I was raising with Light wasn't even a matter of whether or not I agree with him being a Complete Monster, but that their interpretation is something that exists outside their insulated culture. Then there's my personal experience in that I've come across takes that easily differ simply based of what site I'm on, for example I've been massively downvoted on Reddit for saying I don't like particular characters whereas elsewhere the reaction them can noticeably more mixed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Crissaegrim- 05/20/24 8:06:21 PM #93:	Occasionally I'll catch onto a character trait or a plot point will make a bit more contextual sense from reading the tropes page. --- Work in progress bass guitar sound- https://vocaroo.com/17qBOSAFwIfM (Anesthesia- Pulling Teeth) https://voca.ro/1SflYnZYcUrr (Call of Ktulu riff) <cite>-Crissaegrim- posted [p:980482462] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>Occasionally I'll catch onto a character trait or a plot point will make a bit more contextual sense from reading the tropes page. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmegaM 05/20/24 8:56:17 PM #95:	I think it does a good job of debunking common misconceptions on pages like "Television Is Trying to Kill Us". <cite>OmegaM posted [p:980483179] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>I think it does a good job of debunking common misconceptions on pages like "Television Is Trying to Kill Us".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 05/24/24 7:59:15 AM #96:	But... Can't... Stop... --- https://m.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos https://m.youtube.com/SamSeder https://RightWingWatch.org https://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats <cite>Notti posted [p:980534720] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote>But... Can't... Stop... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KCJ5062 05/24/24 8:01:37 AM #97:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Same. --- It's amazing how people hang around message boards of games they don't like <cite>KCJ5062 posted [p:980534742] in TV Tropes ... [t:80772868]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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