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PowerOats
05/21/24 5:35:10 PM
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SA-X should have been in smash
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DeathVelvien
05/21/24 5:36:30 PM
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Excellent game

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GrandConjuraton
05/21/24 5:36:47 PM
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Best in the series.

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LordFarquad1312
05/21/24 5:38:05 PM
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Pretty goated

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GrandConjuraton
05/21/24 5:39:49 PM
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I expected better from you than this, ._.

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s0nicfan
05/21/24 5:40:34 PM
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They might have been back then, but after E.M.M.I. I have a newfound respect for SA-X

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DeathVelvien
05/21/24 5:41:27 PM
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First two maybe, third one sure if you knew how to avoid it. Fourth one though? Nah, top tier moment in the series.

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TheOtherMike
05/21/24 5:42:55 PM
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Worst 2D Metroid.

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PowerOats
05/21/24 5:43:07 PM
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It's been a while, what was the 4th encounter?
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Hayame_Zero
05/21/24 5:43:59 PM
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Great game. But yeah, the SA-X segments are so minor, I can barely remember them. And I played it last year.

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DeathVelvien
05/21/24 5:44:48 PM
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PowerOats posted...
It's been a while, what was the 4th encounter?
Right after the spider boss. Just drop through a block and suddenly SA-X is right there ready to murder you.

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voldothegr8
05/21/24 5:50:40 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Worst 2D Metroid.


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SAlYAN
05/21/24 5:52:14 PM
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I personally liked Zero Mission more, but yeah, it's a great game.

That said, basically all mainline metroid games are great.

Except Other M.

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Turbam
05/21/24 5:53:18 PM
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Very good

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JMPzero
05/21/24 5:54:04 PM
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Good game and one of my favorites.

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SSJKirby
05/21/24 5:55:07 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Worst 2D Metroid.
Bold opinion when Metroid 1 exists

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Alucard188
05/21/24 5:55:48 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Worst 2D Metroid.

Erm. I'd give that distinction to the original Metroid. I'm amazed that it even spawned a franchise based on how bad it was.

My definitive ranking of the 2D Metroid games:

1: Super Metroid
2: Metroid Zero Misson
3: Metroid Dread
4: Metroid 2: Samus Returns
5: Metroid Fusion
6: Metroid II: Return of Samus
7: Metroid

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TheOtherMike
05/21/24 6:05:56 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
Bold opinion when Metroid 1 exists

Metroid was revolutionary for its time. Fusion was just a bad game.

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PowerOats
05/21/24 6:06:52 PM
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Is Samus Returns the Remake?
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Philip027
05/21/24 6:11:32 PM
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I didn't care for it much (tbh I haven't cared much for the new "glass cannon" approach they've been taking with Samus, which basically started in Fusion... ZM and the Prime series are the last Metroid games I've liked) but it wasn't terrible or anything.

To Fusion's credit, even though it is the point where Samus starts taking ridiculous amounts of damage from almost everything, it is the game that still gives you the most energy tanks out of any Metroid game to sorta compensate.
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Hyena_Of_Ice
05/21/24 6:12:03 PM
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Erm. I'd give that distinction to the original Metroid. I'm amazed that it even spawned a franchise based on how bad it was.

It was a seriously fucking good game when you look at what it had to compete with in the 8 Bit era (a lot of the NES games had problems, and that's ON TOP of the problems that the console had, like the slowdown when too many moving sprites are lined up). It was also one of Nintendo's most iconic platformers due to a combination of the gameplay and the uniqueness of the setting.
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Philip027
05/21/24 6:12:46 PM
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PowerOats posted...
Is Samus Returns the Remake?

It is a remake of Metroid 2 (the GB one)
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SSJKirby
05/21/24 6:13:42 PM
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Iconic foe it's time but it's ass now, even Metroid 2 is a huge improvement

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LeoRavus
05/21/24 6:14:18 PM
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It felt like playing Super Metroid with slightly updated graphics.

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Voidgolem
05/21/24 6:21:31 PM
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Great Game, Questionable Metroid Game (though you -can- sequence break it to shit if you know how, it's largely discouraged in favor of the navigation rooms)

the worst metroid is Other M and it's not a contest at all. And even then it's a fine -game- aside from the writing being bad, it's just not a good metroid

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s0nicfan
05/21/24 6:55:14 PM
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Because the SA-X was meant to be a horror moment and a chase sequence, whereas the EMMI quickly became an annoying and repetitive battle arena fight that railroaded you into playing a very specific way or face a one hit kill.

If there was only one of them in dread it would have been a cool fight. By the end of the game I was sick of them.

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Trumble
05/21/24 6:55:53 PM
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Yeah, it was a pretty good game. Not as good as Super Metroid or Zero Mission but still good.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/21/24 6:56:59 PM
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Great game.

I can understand why series purists wouldn't like its increased focus on dialog and more linear style but it was an excellent game on its own merits.

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VeggetaX
05/21/24 7:03:05 PM
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Great game but a ton of SM fans hated Fusion lmao.

Fusion focused a lot more on the element of horror and also creating some lore for Samus and the Metroid universe which I thought was great and refreshing. However, a lot of people did not like that there was a lot of hand holding, that there was too much dialogue which apparently destroyed the pacing of the game, that it was too linear and basically it was too different from Super Metroid.

Anyone remember this?

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SAlYAN
05/21/24 7:03:52 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
Great game but a ton of SM fans hated Fusion lmao.

Fusion focused a lot more on the element of horror and also creating some lore for Samus and the Metroid universe which I thought was great and refreshing. However, a lot of people did not like that there was a lot of hand holding, that there was too much dialogue which apparently destroyed the pacing of the game, that it was too linear and basically it was too different from Super Metroid.

Anyone remember this?
We don't need to remember it.

We see it in this topic.

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DarthDemented
05/23/24 11:26:39 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
Great game but a ton of SM fans hated Fusion lmao.

Fusion focused a lot more on the element of horror and also creating some lore for Samus and the Metroid universe which I thought was great and refreshing. However, a lot of people did not like that there was a lot of hand holding, that there was too much dialogue which apparently destroyed the pacing of the game, that it was too linear and basically it was too different from Super Metroid.

Anyone remember this?
I remember. I enjoyed it back in the day. Did a few playthroughs. Even if it was more linear, I didn't really notice. Of course I'm not someone who tries to sequence break so of course I wouldn't notice.

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DarthDemented
05/23/24 11:32:34 PM
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SAlYAN posted...
I personally liked Zero Mission more, but yeah, it's a great game.

That said, basically all mainline metroid games are great.

Except Other M.
...I liked other M....THERE I SAID IT! YOU HAPPY?

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/24/24 8:04:39 AM
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DarthDemented posted...
...I liked other M....THERE I SAID IT! YOU HAPPY?
I disliked it, but for completely different reasons from the internet hive mind.

I actually thought the story was fine. And even if it weren't, these are the people who brought you the toilet Mushroom Kingdom. Isn't it kinda silly to be upset at their storytelling capability?

No, my problems with it were actually gameplay-related. I hated that you could be literally invincible by just repeatedly tapping the D-pad. I hated how none of the upgrades that weren't just given to you in a cutscene or etc were worth picking up. I hated turning the Wiimote for missiles.

I hated the pixel hunts most of all but TBF I think everybody hated those.

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Garioshi
05/24/24 8:37:08 AM
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The best Metroid and it isn't even close

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xlr_big-coop
05/24/24 9:20:16 AM
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Masterpiece. Love the sprite work, plot, OST and overall ambiance. One of my favorites for the GBA and within its series, hell I'd go as far as to say I love it a hell lot more than dread which I despise with a passion.

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DarthDemented
05/24/24 9:29:09 PM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
I disliked it, but for completely different reasons from the internet hive mind.

I actually thought the story was fine. And even if it weren't, these are the people who brought you the toilet Mushroom Kingdom. Isn't it kinda silly to be upset at their storytelling capability?

No, my problems with it were actually gameplay-related. I hated that you could be literally invincible by just repeatedly tapping the D-pad. I hated how none of the upgrades that weren't just given to you in a cutscene or etc were worth picking up. I hated turning the Wiimote for missiles.

I hated the pixel hunts most of all but TBF I think everybody hated those.
You're not wrong about the pixel hunt. Especially when you're thrown into one as soon as the game starts.

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Guide
05/24/24 9:30:42 PM
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It's the worst 2D Metroid, because of the game design. All the style and plot bits are top fucking notch, and I hope we get a Metroid Fusion 2.

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gamerman57
05/24/24 10:28:09 PM
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Favorite Metroid with Zero Mission coming in close second. Its the first game I think of when I think of GBA games.
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ssb_yunglink2
05/24/24 10:29:14 PM
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Guide posted...
It's the worst 2D Metroid, because of the game design. All the style and plot bits are top fucking notch, and I hope we get a Metroid Fusion 2.
at bare minimum its better than metroid 1. Original metroid 2 has also aged incredibly poorly

I definitely cant say its even close to being worse than those 2, and it being better than dread is still debatable

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TheOtherMike
05/24/24 10:38:17 PM
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Both better, especially considering the limitations of the hardware they're on.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...
it being better than dread is still debatable

No it isn't. Dread is near Super Metroid's level of excellence. The EMMI bits can be tedious, but the level design is top notch and it has the best and most fluid controls of the 2D series, hands down.

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ssb_yunglink2
05/24/24 10:55:00 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Both better, especially considering the limitations of the hardware they're on.

No it isn't. Dread is near Super Metroid's level of excellence. The EMMI bits can be tedious, but the level design is top notch and it has the best and most fluid controls of the 2D series, hands down.
Considering the hardware limitations doesnt make a game better tho lmao

You can acknowledge that they were revolutionary and still accept that as games, they are worse to play than fusion.

Saying with a straight face that Metroid 1 is better than any of the 2d games in the series is a wild statement

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TheOtherMike
05/24/24 11:27:42 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Considering the hardware limitations doesnt make a game better tho lmao

It is absolutely a relevant factor.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...
You can acknowledge that they were revolutionary and still accept that as games, they are worse to play than fusion.

I recently replayed og M2. Better than Fusion. Top 10 Game Boy game. I also recently gave MF another go, and it's easily the worst 2D Metroid based on the forced hand-holding and railroading alone. Metroid has absolutely aged poorly but I'd still rather replay it than Fusion.

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GameGodOfAll
05/24/24 11:29:13 PM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
Best in the series.


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ssb_yunglink2
05/24/24 11:30:40 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
It is absolutely a relevant factor.

I recently replayed og M2. Better than Fusion. Top 10 Game Boy game. Metroid has absolutely aged poorly but I'd still rather replay it than Fusion. I also recently gave MF another go, and it's easily the worst 2D Metroid based on the forced hand-holding and railroading alone.
Its not a relevant factor to a game being better than another game though. Metroid 1 is just straight up not very fun to play, limitations or not.

I dont know how one can possibly say railroading is worse than being spammed by enemies constantly and then needing to grind for health every single time you die. Metroid 1 is absolutely not more fun than fusion lmao

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