Current Events > Beat Neo: The World Ends With You. It was good. *Series Spoilers*

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Kinda feeling sad right now. The lead up to the ending had me on the edge of my seat the entire time, hooting and hollering, especially when they essentially brought back every character even fricking Joshua. Then the ending happens (which is still pretty good) and I guess after that high I'm just kinda crashing.

Last I left off was week 3 Day 6.

After finding out thanks to a couple of people on here that they made a TWEWY port on Switch, which had a new bonus chapter, I debated for a while whether I should pause my playthrough of Neo to get and play TWEWY again. But ultimately decided to just watch a playthrough of the new chapter, and found that to be sufficient. Since I mentioned being confused about the character of Coco and her relationship with Neku and Beat, a relationship I don't remember seeing in the first game.

But I did watch the new chapter on youtube and it really didn't explain anything about Coco and what her deal was in twewy, and her lack of presence in neo. We see her, but she does nothing the whole game and then we have that one interaction with her when neku joins, which while hilarious, doesn't really explain much.

One of my favorite games, along with it's predecessor. Shame SE shadow dropped it and let it die basically.

The best 3D implementation of a 2D series I've played. And a great game to boot

Had some time to process. I'll start from the beginning (of the end)

Week 3 Day 7: We fought Shiba... who by the way was a total pushover, I was sure this couldn't be his final form. Yet the twist ended up being... it was Kubo this whole time who orchestrated this whole thing, even Shinjuku's downfall? That was a bit of a "that happened I guess" moment. I guess maybe Kubo is like that guy with the goatee from TWEWY, Mr Hanekoma, an angel (whose name I hadn't heard in 15 years until I watched the TWEWY playthrough) which is a real blast from the past.

Kubo had been utilizing the time travel pin Rindo has for his own nefarious needs. He uses them to summon and create weird bird noise. Interesting use of the whole time travel shenanigans and alternate reality/multiverse theory related time travel.

Oh and Swallow ended up being... drumroll please... Shoka!

Well, that was... anticlimactic -__-'

I'd built it up in my head as a much bigger twist, like first I thought "oh man what if it was Neku that would be great" (though that seemed less likely as the game went on) and then I thought "oh oh, if it's Joshua I'm gonna freak out!"

I guess I must have missed any signs the game had during the previous weeks. Does kinda explain Shoka's keen interest in Rindo and co.

It also seemed like they were maybe sort of hinting at Rindo and Shoka liking each other, especially at the end there? That also surprised me. I don't mind it they're both pretty cool. Just unexpected.

saspa posted...

I guess I must have missed any signs the game had during the previous weeks. Does kinda explain Shoka's keen interest in Rindo and co.

Pretty sure you saw the birds whenever she was around

saspa posted...

It also seemed like they were maybe sort of hinting at Rindo and Shoka liking each other, especially at the end there? That also surprised me. I don't mind it they're both pretty cool. Just unexpected.

Yeah, that's how I interpreted it too. Cute af

teep_ posted...

Pretty sure you saw the birds whenever she was around

I thought the birds were related to the Kubo thing.

Hmm, is it just a coincidence that she chose the name Swallow for fango and the secret time enemy thing happened to be a bunch of bird Noise?

When we go back in time to restart the day, we try to get Shiba to join us against Kubo with mixed results. And finally seeing Rhyme again was great.

Funny that she could actually see the rest of the party except those who actually died. Neku being the only one actually dead... was it because Coco shot him? If so I don't see how she's done anything to redeem that. And how strong is she that she literally revived Sho Minamoto yet this doesn't raise any red flags or alerts with literally anyone, from reapers to game masters to composers.

And yet we still fail. But then Rindo somehow ends up back in the real world except he's all by himself, none of the others are with him. And he meets some rando called Haz. I honestly thought it would be Joshua so when it was this random character I've never seen before I was pointing at the screen going "who the fuck is this dude" and feeling lost. The dude somehow destroyed Kubo, and then sent Rindo back to the last day again to retry beating the bird Noise one final time. That's when they basically have everyone join in to fight the last fight. They got the reapers from TWEWY like Kariya and Uzuki, they were able to convince Shiba with the help of his old friends which includes Tsugumi (I've got a beef to later pick with this character who didn't really amount to much plot wise) and even Sho Minamimoto shows up to help out while acting all cool and aloof, just the way we love him. They really went all out.

I unlocked Ultimate difficulty and... I'm back to sucking. Wish we could have 7 party members, I know 6 is already a high amount but it would really rock if we could have 7 people fighting at once. 6 fighting with 1 just constantly healing. Now I'm doing 5 fighting with 1 healing.

Also I think I'm gonna just equip Def Up clothing instead of Att Up. Att Up doesn't seem to increase my attack that much, and since I'm constantly getting hit and can't actually dodge everything, I'm tired of getting one-shotted and think maybe it's best that my defense is really high and I'll just have to deal with slowly whittling down enemy health for now.

The developer straight up admitted that tsugumi and coco were underutilized because they ran out of time. Basically neo is a part 3 to a part 2 game that never materialized kinda like if you went straight to kingdom hearts 2 without knowing anything about chain of memories

tremain07 posted...

The developer straight up admitted that tsugumi and coco were underutilized because they ran out of time. Basically neo is a part 3 to a part 2 game that never materialized kinda like if you went straight to kingdom hearts 2 without knowing anything about chain of memories

Kinda had a feeling it was something like this, that explains so much.

Like, I would be fine if the game was even longer and had an entire chapter on what happened in shinjuku, maybe featuring neku exploring and investigating, stuff like that.

I'm happy with what we got. But it's a shame they couldn't finish what they wanted. It doesn't affect me as much since I only recently watched the new chapter, but I feel sorry for those who did play the switch twewy and were theorizing for years on what the sequel would bring to explain that teaser with tsugumi and coco and sho.

More so than that, I wish we'd gotten to know the Shinjuku reapers better. Characters like Kaie and Shiba's friend Hishima who only appears near the end and does anything. Although it would get crowded trying to share screen time with both the Shibuya Reapers and Shinjuku Reapers in such a small game that's not Persona 5 long.

I started the other day, I forgot her name but I just got that pin addict girl on the team

I heard the story of this game isnt as good as the first games?

Rika_Furude posted...

I started the other day, I forgot her name but I just got that pin addict girl on the team

I heard the story of this game isnt as good as the first games?

I, personally, felt it was better, and I love both. It's pretty split. The second's is certainly more... Complicated, some might say convoluted, for better or worse.

I posted lots of spoilers in this topic dude so be careful. But I will say that's not true at all, Neo is one of the best sequels of all time. There are so many positive things I can say about the game. For one thing I love how you start the game with Rindo and Fret, 2 best friends who are opposites: Fret being the bubbly, outgoing and adorable one, while Rindo is the more quiet, subdued, reserved one (opposites attract is always a fun trope)

It's a great approach to the themes of the franchise, serving as a foil to how you start the game with Neku who was a loner in TWEWY.

I unfortunately still try and play this game like Bayonetta 2 sometimes due to muscle memory, thinking I can dodge and then pick up my combo where I left off. But the pins don't work that way especially the charging pins which feel the worst in terms of damage per second while avoid enemy attack.

Neku in cutscene: godly badass who could defend against and one-shot Sho with just one hand.

Neku in gameplay: weaker than my newest character Shoka :(

Just wanted to vent about that. I guess I can headcanon it that returning from Shinjuku drained his powers a bit because it was this weird in-between-realms type plane of existence.

One of the best sequels I've played.

The entire last section of the story was amazing. Definitely worth the decade+-long wait.

Rharyx211 posted...

One of the best sequels I've played.

The entire last section of the story was amazing. Definitely worth the decade+-long wait.

I'm gonna replay the days again on Ultimate to get all the pins and see how close to 100% completion I get. Not only the last section, I just love how the entire game plays out:

In week 1 both the characters and we the players are learning the mechanics for the first time, getting into the swing of things, struggling a bit here and there. I love that the characters and the player are in the same position; we're both relying on Sho to get us through most of it.

Then, he leaves at the end of week 1! Rindo is terrified, and so am I the player. Especially since the first Susukichi boss was so fricking hard, I kept dying over and over. At the start of week 2 I shared Rindo's fear of not being able to survive. Then we get a new party member and it's a blast from the past! Felt really good seeing Beat again. Then by the end of the week I feel very confident, especially after Shoka joins. I no longer fear the Reaper's game.

Then week 3 it's just one crazy day after the other, and we've got so much bigger fish to fry than just surviving the reaper's game.

It's just an overall great journey. I'm excited to replay the game and kick butt

saspa posted...

Like, I would be fine if the game was even longer and had an entire chapter on what happened in shinjuku, maybe featuring neku exploring and investigating, stuff like that.

Nomura said he wants to show that story some day. 1095/3 days let's gooooo

Btw, play Another Day. It has some cool content and you can get Sho back, though you have to swap someone off of your party to do so. Don't worry at that point you can freely switch, though it's kinda annoying since you have to go back to Another Day to do so

mehmeh1 posted...

Btw, play Another Day. It has some cool content and you can get Sho back, though you have to swap someone off of your party to do so. Don't worry at that point you can freely switch, though it's kinda annoying since you have to go back to Another Day to do so

Yeah I started it and decided to play through Another Day first then go back to day 1 on Ultimate. Had to ragequit after losing a 16-chain battle on ultimate on the 16th battle with one enemy left because of dumb mistake and awful luck, will pick up later in the week.

I've actually been googling post game content to see how I can be the strongest to break the game with strongest clothes, strongest pins, and how to quickly max my party members through food and such. Want to be strong enough to be able to beat a 20-chain battle on ultimate without worrying about screw ups, and also defeating bosses at level 1 on ultimate difficulty to get their rare pin drops.

Think I'll just beat Another Day then focus completely on post game maximizing. And yeah I learned from Another Day's Hishima that I can switch party members, but I really wish they'd let us have all 7...

Now debating if I should add Sho permanently or not. Out of the 6, I removed Nagi to try out Sho, especially since there's these 2 pins from that brand that Beat wears, which require Sho to evolve. Nothing against Nagi, it's just out of the core 6 someone has to be a character I like least and unfortunately for her she's the one I pick. But it also works out because she actually ended up being the first character to reach stat max, since I kept feeding her alligators which while expensive offer huge stat boosts.

Still, Sho doesn't have any groove boosts with the party the way Nagi does... do I want to keep him just because he's cool, or stick with Nagi so that I can quickly raise my groove for those life saving killer remixes.

I decided to watch the honest trailer for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkg8CQzVexA

What's funny is that I was literally thinking Rindo was like Roxas in KH 2; same hair color and same idea of new character introduced who I immediately liked. With Neo I noticed a lot of parallels with the 2 KH games (or I guess technically 3 games) and TWEWY series, including what was said itt about the planned games for TWEWY.

The more I think about it, the more I think that what they did with Rindo and Neku in Neo TWEWY is kind of like if they actually did have Roxas and Sora team up in Kingdom Hearts. It's basically the same idea as KH 2, starting off with a new character, only they actually go in another direction and have that character actually meet and join forces with the protagonist of the previous game. It's a great idea.

Really is a shame that it didn't see the success and mass appeal of KH.

Did you like the obvious Xenmas kind of feel to Shiba's boss fight? I love that fight just for the line "No, we can still do this! we HAVE to!" before you start wailing on the actual attack itself in fact, I really love how each track in the game can mesh with the overall theme even if it's not so obvious at first listen

For example the song "we're losing you" aka the song you hear whenever you face off with suzy k, if you listen to the lyrics you realize it's basically Susuchki begging Shiba to come back to his senses from Kubo's brainwashing speaking of that, did you realize that what happened to him is basically an extreme of what was happening to Neku in the first game during week 2? Remember how he seemed more pissed off than usual? Well that's no just because Joshua is a bit of an ass it's because Angels legit cause aggression in people when they are near them, causing aggression and amplication in their souls, that's why they are forced to down tune themselves into human forms when they venture into the RG and UG however Kubo was different, while he obeyed that rule he stuck by Shiba's side specifically to further Shiba's worse impulses where as Joshua kept himself distant enough from Neku that while aggravated Neku's soul wasn't completely subjected to the negative effects of that interaction in a way, you could look at Shiba and Kubo as a bad version of Kitanji and Joshua a composer and their second in command. this is exactly why Shiba is mad at himself after he manages to come out of it after Kubo is erased by Haz he was still himself just a himself that completely abandoned his restraints and empathy thus it doesn't excuse his behavior in causing Shinjuku and nearly Shibuya's erasure from the RG and why he wants to restore Shinjuku, which is why Tsugumi bears him no ill will and the other two realize he's truly himself again, sorry but I can't remember their names anymore.

A more obvious example would be Shibuya Survivor detailing the problems Nagi, Rindo Fret and Shoka are facing

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a6bdfc2d.jpg

Speaking of Kingdom Hearts this image was posted awhile back but apparently some higher ups got mad and so the image was changed to this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/08febbd1.jpg
Neo the world ends with you will also crossover with the new game Reynatis, Rindo and Shoka are from week 2 but before her recruitment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dhFoaRBp8Y

I think my favorite thing about the game is that our boy Hanekoma is in the game but you won't' see him unless you really look for him He's in jail for what he did in the first game teaching Sho to use Taboo noise, yet he's been able to watch the wicked twisters journey from beginning to end and hopes to meet Rindo in the future, that's some very high praise considering what kind of man he is, it was also great to see Shiki in her real body in the felsh after decades of her being in Eri's body, through I'm sad we didn't get to see Eri herself we only learn through NPC dialogue that Eri is Shiki's model for her brand Gato Nato, she modeled the Mr.New hoddie that Shoka favors if Shoka ever met Shiki and learned who she was it'd probably play out how Neku reacted when he learned that Hanekoma was CAT oh and the other part of the ending with Beat 's last line in the series being "Cuz me a sec,yo" I like to imagine Beat had the guy in a headlock while watching Neku and Shiki reuniting forgetting all about it

I love this game series, it's characters, it's themes and it's conclusion and I'm glad to see the spirit of it lives on in Reynatis which also has some vibes of Final Fantasy verse 13 in it because the developers are not only fans of Noruma's original vision but they flat out told him that when they met him for the very first time. Given Final Fantasy's current turmoil and construction thanks to the sunk cost in the remake I doubt verse 13 will ever be a reality in itself but there's always vernum rex, Yozora's story, hard to believe there's more to him than just being that guy who may or may not have defeated Sora in a dream fight

Only thing I did not like about the game was that you never had a final showdown with Kubo...having that rat @#$#$ be erased by a random angel and you just fighting some random super Noise was just...a very lame final boss.

What's the difference between this and the Original? I've played through he original but not this one

Necronmon posted...

Only thing I did not like about the game was that you never had a final showdown with Kubo...having that rat @#$#$ be erased by a random angel and you just fighting some random super Noise was just...a very lame final boss.

It makes sense tho he wasn't just boasting Angels are a whole nother level of power tier that even reapers can't touch in a fight, if Kubo were allowed to fight back he'd of killed everybody easily but that's against the rules and remember, he was just a grunt, to people like Joshua and Haz he was nothing as Haz easily erased him with one beam, just like how Joshua killed the plague noise with just one half hearted beam not even his full power

2Pacavelli posted...

What's the difference between this and the Original? I've played through he original but not this one

Neo is a sequel.