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PowerOats 05/23/24 6:42:23 PM #1:	This was a game that existed No platformer should have that much dialogue <cite>PowerOats posted [p:980528191] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>This was a game that existedNo platformer should have that much dialogue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 05/23/24 6:42:56 PM #3:	Yes, it was the last good Paper Mario game. --- Neon >_> RIP Hornyposting on CE. 1999-2024 <cite>DKBananaSlamma posted [p:980528207] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Yes, it was the last good Paper Mario game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 05/23/24 6:43:28 PM #4:	It was a good game. It wasn't as great a game as either of the two former ones, but it's different and unique enough and still has the best story of all the games. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:980528215] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>It was a good game. It wasn't as great a game as either of the two former ones, but it's different and unique enough and still has the best story of all the games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BroodRyu 05/23/24 6:49:20 PM #5:	I want to play it again. Its major flaw was the excessive amount of backtracking and waiting. <cite>BroodRyu posted [p:980528285] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>I want to play it again. Its major flaw was the excessive amount of backtracking and waiting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
oneofcircles 05/23/24 6:58:40 PM #6:	bad game --- zawa--- zawa--- https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2227668 <cite>oneofcircles posted [p:980528406] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>bad game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 05/23/24 7:02:56 PM #7:	Too short and the gameplay was extremely basic, but it still had the Paper Mario charm and storytelling. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:980528463] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Too short and the gameplay was extremely basic, but it still had the Paper Mario charm and storytelling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
misterbum 05/23/24 7:16:01 PM #8:	Its aight --- http://imgur.com/a/WqlxL <cite>misterbum posted [p:980528616] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Its aight </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/23/24 7:25:24 PM #9:	I liked it. I get the hate but really it's not to blame for the downfall of the series --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:980528737] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>I liked it. I get the hate but really it's not to blame for the downfall of the series </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomClark 05/23/24 7:27:41 PM #10:	Best story of all the Paper Mario games. I didn't love the gameplay anywhere near as much as the first two, so at the time I was pretty harsh on it, but it definitely plays better than Sticker Star and Colour Splash, so my stance has softened a bit. The original, Origami King and especially TTYD all have it beat though, in my eyes. --- http://i.imgur.com/6eF0W.gif <cite>TomClark posted [p:980528766] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Best story of all the Paper Mario games.I didn't love the gameplay anywhere near as much as the first two, so at the time I was pretty harsh on it, but it definitely plays better than Sticker Star and Colour Splash, so my stance has softened a bit.The original, Origami King and especially TTYD all have it beat though, in my eyes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 05/23/24 7:29:40 PM #11:	it's like the ultimate example of a game where I wonder if I'm too harsh on it until I play it again and realize that nah if anything i'm too lenient --- https://i.imgur.com/hLHUnOI.jpg You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:980528804] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>it's like the ultimate example of a game where I wonder if I'm too harsh on it until I play it again and realize that nah if anything i'm too lenient </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
oneofcircles 05/23/24 7:30:13 PM #12:	creativerealms posted... I liked it. I get the hate but really it's not to blame for the downfall of the series It is. They went a step too far making it not even resemble the Mario universe. The thing I love about the first two games is that all the original species (clubbas, duplighosts, clefts, etc.) feel like they belong in a Mario game. all the original characters in SPM do not. --- zawa--- zawa--- https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2227668 <cite>oneofcircles posted [p:980528811] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>I liked it. I get the hate but really it's not to blame for the downfall of the series</quote>It is. They went a step too far making it not even resemble the Mario universe. The thing I love about the first two games is that all the original species (clubbas, duplighosts, clefts, etc.) feel like they belong in a Mario game. all the original characters in SPM do not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McmadnessV3 05/23/24 7:31:23 PM #13:	It's a platformer/rpg hybrid that is bad at both. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. <cite>McmadnessV3 posted [p:980528822] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>It's a platformer/rpg hybrid that is bad at both. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mystereave 05/23/24 7:37:48 PM #14:	Honestly, the flowery, and at times poetic, storytelling and exotic visuals give SPM the air of "an artsy indie game that just happens to star Mario" the more I think about it. <cite>Mystereave posted [p:980528914] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, the flowery, and at times poetic, storytelling and exotic visuals give SPM the air of "an artsy indie game that just happens to star Mario" the more I think about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
oneofcircles 05/23/24 7:44:29 PM #15:	Mystereave posted... Honestly, the flowery, and at times poetic, storytelling and exotic visuals give SPM the air of "an artsy indie game that just happens to star Mario" the more I think about it. I'd call it bad Mario fanfiction, but honestly fanfiction would have more respect for the source material --- zawa--- zawa--- https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2227668 <cite>oneofcircles posted [p:980528992] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Mystereave posted... </cite><quote>Honestly, the flowery, and at times poetic, storytelling and exotic visuals give SPM the air of "an artsy indie game that just happens to star Mario" the more I think about it.</quote>I'd call it bad Mario fanfiction, but honestly fanfiction would have more respect for the source material </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 05/23/24 7:45:56 PM #16:	game sucks shit. unengaging bland gameplay. the writing is super strong tho --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:980529005] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>game sucks shit. unengaging bland gameplay. the writing is super strong tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 05/23/24 7:47:19 PM #18:	Its really good. --- Sig <cite>--Zero- posted [p:980529014] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Its really good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/23/24 7:50:11 PM #19:	It's the only Paper Mario game I played, and I can only imagine people hate it the same way people hate Breath of the Wild. Ie "it's not a good Paper Mario game" --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:980529050] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>It's the only Paper Mario game I played, and I can only imagine people hate it the same way people hate Breath of the Wild. Ie "it's not a good Paper Mario game" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 05/23/24 7:52:28 PM #20:	i would say its not a good game in general. i played it a decade after it came out and long after i gave up on caring that it wasnt paper mario style --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:980529081] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>i would say its not a good game in general. i played it a decade after it came out and long after i gave up on caring that it wasnt paper mario style </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKBananaSlamma 05/23/24 8:01:59 PM #21:	Best story Navigating the world sucked Gameplay when not solely traversing from point A to point B was fun though. --- Neon >_> RIP Hornyposting on CE. 1999-2024 <cite>DKBananaSlamma posted [p:980529219] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Best storyNavigating the world suckedGameplay when not solely traversing from point A to point B was fun though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
oneofcircles 05/23/24 8:11:18 PM #22:	Can someone who likes this game for the story please explain why? I just don't understand your reasoning at all --- zawa--- zawa--- https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2227668 <cite>oneofcircles posted [p:980529361] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Can someone who likes this game for the story please explain why? I just don't understand your reasoning at all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 05/23/24 8:23:58 PM #23:	oneofcircles posted... Can someone who likes this game for the story please explain why? I just don't understand your reasoning at all What specifically is your beef with it? It's just a cogent story of loss and friendship. It's not exactly rocket science. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:980529495] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>oneofcircles posted... </cite><quote>Can someone who likes this game for the story please explain why? I just don't understand your reasoning at all</quote>What specifically is your beef with it?It's just a cogent story of loss and friendship. It's not exactly rocket science. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
oneofcircles 05/23/24 8:35:21 PM #24:	Cemith posted... What specifically is your beef with it? It's just a cogent story of loss and friendship. It's not exactly rocket science. Aside from the character designs, I don't have a problem. I just want to know why people say things like "best story in the series". --- zawa--- zawa--- https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2227668 <cite>oneofcircles posted [p:980529615] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted... </cite><quote>What specifically is your beef with it?It's just a cogent story of loss and friendship. It's not exactly rocket science.</quote>Aside from the character designs, I don't have a problem. I just want to know why people say things like "best story in the series". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 05/23/24 8:36:16 PM #25:	Origami King tiered, good game, bad RPG --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:980529630] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Origami King tiered, good game, bad RPG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpawnShadow 05/23/24 8:40:34 PM #26:	I remember loving the hell out of it, but it's very different from the first two games. If you're a big fan of how the N64 game and The Thousand-Year Door played, it might not necessarily be your cup of tea. <cite>SpawnShadow posted [p:980529692] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>I remember loving the hell out of it, but it's very different from the first two games. If you're a big fan of how the N64 game and The Thousand-Year Door played, it might not necessarily be your cup of tea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 05/23/24 8:42:14 PM #27:	oneofcircles posted... Aside from the character designs, I don't have a problem. I just want to know why people say things like "best story in the series". Well, I mean... It's the best story in the series. Like every other game just has a basic by the numbers story with some good elements in it, like TEC. Meanwhile every chapter in SPM teases you just that little bit before the reveal of who's story you're reading about and it's a genuine gut punch. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:980529723] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>oneofcircles posted... </cite><quote>Aside from the character designs, I don't have a problem. I just want to know why people say things like "best story in the series".</quote>Well, I mean... It's the best story in the series. Like every other game just has a basic by the numbers story with some good elements in it, like TEC. Meanwhile every chapter in SPM teases you just that little bit before the reveal of who's story you're reading about and it's a genuine gut punch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathVelvien 05/23/24 8:43:27 PM #28:	Good writing does a lot of heavy lifting for the game, because the gameplay side is super mediocre. --- Arizona Diamondbacks: 8-8 \| Arizona Cardinals: tanked UNI2: Phonon \| GBVSR: Nier/Zeta <cite>DeathVelvien posted [p:980529739] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Good writing does a lot of heavy lifting for the game, because the gameplay side is super mediocre. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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oneofcircles 05/23/24 8:55:33 PM #30:	Cemith posted... Well, I mean... It's the best story in the series. Like every other game just has a basic by the numbers story with some good elements in it, like TEC. SPM still uses the standard "collect 7 magic items to open a path" storyline that the other games do. The individual stories of each chapter are way more interesting in 64 and TTYD. I don't' remember a single thing that happened in caveman land, or space land, or heaven and hell land. SPM has exactly one good chapter, which is the one with the mansion --- zawa--- zawa--- https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2227668 <cite>oneofcircles posted [p:980529897] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted... </cite><quote>Well, I mean... It's the best story in the series. Like every other game just has a basic by the numbers story with some good elements in it, like TEC.</quote>SPM still uses the standard "collect 7 magic items to open a path" storyline that the other games do. The individual stories of each chapter are way more interesting in 64 and TTYD. I don't' remember a single thing that happened in caveman land, or space land, or heaven and hell land. SPM has exactly one good chapter, which is the one with the mansion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 05/23/24 8:56:54 PM #31:	oneofcircles posted... SPM still uses the standard "collect 7 magic items to open a path" storyline that the other games do. The individual stories of each chapter are way more interesting in 64 and TTYD. I don't' remember a single thing that happened in caveman land, or space land, or heaven and hell land. SPM has exactly one good chapter, which is the one with the mansion Yes, it's not the overarching plot, it's the characters within it. Namely ~~Bleck and Tippi~~ If you're a fan of more character rich writing, then SPM clears TTYD and N64. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:980529918] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>oneofcircles posted... </cite><quote>SPM still uses the standard "collect 7 magic items to open a path" storyline that the other games do. The individual stories of each chapter are way more interesting in 64 and TTYD. I don't' remember a single thing that happened in caveman land, or space land, or heaven and hell land. SPM has exactly one good chapter, which is the one with the mansion</quote>Yes, it's not the overarching plot, it's the characters within it. Namely Bleck and TippiIf you're a fan of more character rich writing, then SPM clears TTYD and N64. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 05/23/24 9:01:56 PM #32:	It's atrocious in basically every aspect of gameplay. The story is fine, but it constantly gets elevated to the pinnacle of storytelling in games and it is absolutely nowhere near that. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:980529974] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>It's atrocious in basically every aspect of gameplay. The story is fine, but it constantly gets elevated to the pinnacle of storytelling in games and it is absolutely nowhere near that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain_S_Fiend 05/23/24 9:05:17 PM #33:	misterbum posted... Its aight --- The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself. <cite>Villain_S_Fiend posted [p:980530010] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>misterbum posted... </cite><quote>Its aight</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_is_smart 05/25/24 5:05:23 PM #34:	It's a fun game but really should have been it's own thing instead of being made a part of the Paper Mario franchise. --- Tah-rah-rah-boom-dee-aaay, did you get yours todaaay? I got mine yesterdaaay, that's why I walk this way. i.imgur.com/FoxGIbC.jpg <cite>I_is_smart posted [p:980556070] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>It's a fun game but really should have been it's own thing instead of being made a part of the Paper Mario franchise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 05/25/24 5:08:38 PM #35:	I_is_smart posted... It's a fun game but really should have been it's own thing instead of being made a part of the Paper Mario franchise. To be fair, it technically is its own thing. "Super Paper Mario" is technically a different series than "Paper Mario." Like how "Super Mario Bros" is different than "New Super Mario Bros." I get your point, I'm posting about technicalities, but... They did name it that way in order to indicate that the gameplay style wasn't the direction the traditional Paper Mario series was going to go in. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:980556122] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>I_is_smart posted... </cite><quote>It's a fun game but really should have been it's own thing instead of being made a part of the Paper Mario franchise.</quote>To be fair, it technically is its own thing."Super Paper Mario" is technically a different series than "Paper Mario."Like how "Super Mario Bros" is different than "New Super Mario Bros." I get your point, I'm posting about technicalities, but... They did name it that way in order to indicate that the gameplay style wasn't the direction the traditional Paper Mario series was going to go in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 05/25/24 5:11:40 PM #36:	StealThisSheen posted... To be fair, it technically is its own thing. "Super Paper Mario" is technically a different series than "Paper Mario." Like how "Super Mario Bros" is different than "New Super Mario Bros." I get your point, I'm posting about technicalities, but... They did name it that way in order to indicate that the gameplay style wasn't the direction the traditional Paper Mario series was going to go in. ehhhh i think this is quite a reach I absolutely would not call super paper mario its own series --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:980556167] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>To be fair, it technically is its own thing."Super Paper Mario" is technically a different series than "Paper Mario."Like how "Super Mario Bros" is different than "New Super Mario Bros." I get your point, I'm posting about technicalities, but... They did name it that way in order to indicate that the gameplay style wasn't the direction the traditional Paper Mario series was going to go in.</quote>ehhhh i think this is quite a reach I absolutely would not call super paper mario its own series </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 05/25/24 5:50:20 PM #37:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... ehhhh i think this is quite a reach I absolutely would not call super paper mario its own series Well, it's not technically its own series since it only has one game, but it's not in the same lore timeline as the other Paper Mario games. Super Paper Mario, within its own universe, explicitly states that it's a pure 2D universe, being able to "flip" into 3D is an incredibly new/weird thing to the beings within Super Paper Mario, while it's a very established thing within the Paper Mario world. Super Paper Mario is a similar timeline, but not the same. Nintendo also tends to be very deliberate about things like this, when it comes to name. For example, Paper Jam is explicitly a "Mario & Luigi" game, which means Paper Mario's appearance in it is non-canon to Paper Mario. They use these naming patterns deliberately. The "Super" Paper Mario seems deliberate, since they wanted to indicate it was NOT the path Paper Mario was actually going in, and... Likewise, it's not the path Paper Mario went in, gameplay-wise. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:980556652] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>ehhhh i think this is quite a reach I absolutely would not call super paper mario its own series</quote>Well, it's not technically its own series since it only has one game, but it's not in the same lore timeline as the other Paper Mario games. Super Paper Mario, within its own universe, explicitly states that it's a pure 2D universe, being able to "flip" into 3D is an incredibly new/weird thing to the beings within Super Paper Mario, while it's a very established thing within the Paper Mario world. Super Paper Mario is a similar timeline, but not the same.Nintendo also tends to be very deliberate about things like this, when it comes to name. For example, Paper Jam is explicitly a "Mario & Luigi" game, which means Paper Mario's appearance in it is non-canon to Paper Mario. They use these naming patterns deliberately. The "Super" Paper Mario seems deliberate, since they wanted to indicate it was NOT the path Paper Mario was actually going in, and... Likewise, it's not the path Paper Mario went in, gameplay-wise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 05/25/24 5:56:45 PM #38:	Looking into it further, later games, such as Sticker Star and Color Splash, have deliberate references to events/characters from 64 and TTYD, such as referencing characters like Goombella, Peach's old Paper Mario design, etc. and so on, but none of them actually reference Super Paper Mario at all. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:980556724] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>Looking into it further, later games, such as Sticker Star and Color Splash, have deliberate references to events/characters from 64 and TTYD, such as referencing characters like Goombella, Peach's old Paper Mario design, etc. and so on, but none of them actually reference Super Paper Mario at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 05/25/24 6:04:23 PM #40:	To clarify on my post, since I don't think I explained it very well, when it came to the "3D" stuff In the Paper Mario games, it's 2D characters that can move in a 3D space. Besides moving left and right, they can move in and out, on a 3D plane, and this 3D level of movement is acknowledged throughout the entire game. In Super Paper Mario, 99% of characters can ONLY move left and right in 2D, and characters being able to move on a 3D plane is seen as out of the ordinary. Like, it's literally a story mechanic. This indicates it's not in the same universe/"series" as the other Paper Mario games. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:980556841] in Super Pape... [t:80775163]...</cite> <quote>To clarify on my post, since I don't think I explained it very well, when it came to the "3D" stuffIn the Paper Mario games, it's 2D characters that can move in a 3D space. Besides moving left and right, they can move in and out, on a 3D plane, and this 3D level of movement is acknowledged throughout the entire game. In Super Paper Mario, 99% of characters can ONLY move left and right in 2D, and characters being able to move on a 3D plane is seen as out of the ordinary. Like, it's literally a story mechanic.This indicates it's not in the same universe/"series" as the other Paper Mario games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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