Current Events > Trump Trials General Part 20

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Anteaterking
05/29/24 9:56:37 PM
#51:


ThePieReborn posted...
The idea is to prevent undue focus on any one part of the testimony (outside of jurors' recollections) without the corresponding in-person circumstances (the context of the examination questions, tone of questions and answers, etc). Courts in some jurisdictions may permit a certain portion of the transcript be produced at the jurors' request, but the general preference is for a reading and a cautionary instruction for the jurors to trust their recollections over the text of the transcripts.

Okay, thanks that makes sense.

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Alucard188
05/29/24 10:42:51 PM
#52:


Trump when he rolls up to his probation hearing:

https://youtube.com/shorts/V8xMz4T2XH4?si=b9gKmIeDYSquYuLu

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The_Sock
05/29/24 11:58:32 PM
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Tyranthraxus
05/30/24 12:20:26 AM
#54:


The E Jean carrol jury deliberated for like 3 days or something before finding him guilty of everything except rape. I see no reason to be concerned at the moment.

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Lonestar2000
05/30/24 12:24:10 AM
#55:


CableZL posted...
Smartmatic is suing Newsmax, and apparently Smartmatic has evidence that the CEO of Newsmax deleted evidence relevant to the trial after they were given the retention notice (or whatever it's called).
Oh fuck, that's really bad news for Newsmax.

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teep_
05/30/24 1:08:34 AM
#56:


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ShaneMcComez
05/30/24 5:24:13 AM
#57:


I think if the jury deliberation goes beyond Friday. Then it might be time to get nervous.

Hopefully, this jury is taking their time, and going through each of the counts and discussing everything with one another. Dotting the i's and crossing the t's and whatnot. Which is fine and what a jury should be doing.

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tremain07
05/30/24 6:25:21 AM
#58:


I'll be shocked if we get a verdict by Friday, to us it's an obvious case of guilt but to them they're probably thinking about what'll happen to them personally if they find Trump guilty, the traial ends, his punishment is a slap on the wrist and he'll now be free to dox and attack them all he wants as revenge, especially if one or more of the jurors goes out and talks to the media afterwards because spotlight and pay can be pretty tempting

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Vivaldi7
05/30/24 6:44:30 AM
#59:


It still takes only 1 "activist" jury member to sink this entire thing right ?

Smdh....why even try then....

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CADE_FOSTER
05/30/24 6:48:53 AM
#60:


judge merchan said it doesnt have to be unanimus
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texanfan27
05/30/24 6:49:20 AM
#61:


Tagging to keep up

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tremain07
05/30/24 6:55:13 AM
#62:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
judge merchan said it doesnt have to be unanimus
No he didn't

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SgtBash
05/30/24 7:00:18 AM
#63:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c033m2qdm0no

He told the jury that prosecutors do not need to prove these secondary crimes, nor do jurors need to be in agreement on which specific one Mr Trump committed. They must reach a unanimous verdict on each of the 34 counts, however.

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CADE_FOSTER
05/30/24 7:07:16 AM
#64:


oh ok
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TomClark
05/30/24 7:10:24 AM
#65:


Alucard188 posted...
Trump when he rolls up to his probation hearing:

https://youtube.com/shorts/V8xMz4T2XH4?si=b9gKmIeDYSquYuLu

That is fantastic

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ThePieReborn
05/30/24 9:39:50 AM
#66:


Lonestar2000 posted...
Oh fuck, that's really bad news for Newsmax.
Very. Spoliation of evidence can result in a negative inference jury instruction permitting them to find that it was done in bad faith to avoid disclosure and thereby treat it as evidence of Newsmax's understanding and belief in its liability.

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mystic_belmont
05/30/24 9:45:16 AM
#67:


https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-30-24/index.html

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littlebro07
05/30/24 9:58:03 AM
#68:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/15324c7c.jpg

uhh

so pages 6-35 will be read back to them and then back to deliberation

Hopefully this is the only delay


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Sonixs
05/30/24 10:09:07 AM
#69:


Unless you're a Trump nut hugger this is the most obvious guilty charge ever.

Unless you're dumb enough to believe the Cohen did all of that out of the kindness of his heart and ignore like every other testimony.
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Mearcstapa
05/30/24 10:11:24 AM
#70:


Finish him!

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davyheinz
05/30/24 10:19:05 AM
#71:


That timer from CNN reminds me of that timer with some Qanon shit that kept resetting every few days. It could end up being accurate, but I dont think it matters and its just a dumb metric to have. Theyll finish when they finish, get over it.

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ClayGuida
05/30/24 10:21:07 AM
#72:


littlebro07 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/15324c7c.jpg

uhh

so pages 6-35 will be read back to them and then back to deliberation

Hopefully this is the only delay
4 hours and 62 minutes

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CableZL
05/30/24 10:32:31 AM
#73:


https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/1796182885864555006

And this is the kicker here with Cohen's testimony, imo. The defense can rightfully call Cohen a liar because he has lied to congress, courts, his family, the Trump administration, etc... But 1) he was doing most of those lies on Trump's behalf and 2) his testimony is corroborated by evidence.

If Trump can be found criminally liable from Cohen's testimony alone if his testimony is corroborated by evidence, then the jury should find Trump guilty.

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andel
05/30/24 10:35:43 AM
#74:


if we get a verdict today it would almost certainly be guilty. he wont get acquitted, but a hung jury would likely be after like a week of deliberation

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Cemith
05/30/24 10:40:11 AM
#75:


andel posted...
if we get a verdict today it would almost certainly be guilty. he wont get acquitted, but a hung jury would likely be after like a week of deliberation

God today is so stressful.

Trump could be convicted by the end of business today

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andel
05/30/24 10:43:00 AM
#76:


hopefully we get a conviction today. twice impeached convicted felon just sounds great for the attack ads

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RchHomieQuanChi
05/30/24 11:08:50 AM
#77:


Sonixs posted...
Unless you're a Trump nut hugger this is the most obvious guilty charge ever.

Unless you're dumb enough to believe the Cohen did all of that out of the kindness of his heart and ignore like every other testimony.

Most obvious guilty charge besides his other cases you mean lol

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ShaneMcComez
05/30/24 11:19:21 AM
#78:


We here, the users of GameFAQs, find the defendant guilty on all 34 charges.

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Thompson
05/30/24 11:20:58 AM
#79:


Imagine if the jury deliberation is like 12 Angry Men, but in reverse, where all are initially saying not guilty except one?

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Vyrulisse
05/30/24 11:26:05 AM
#80:


We all know he's guilty but I won't be surprised if he gets off. Hinging so much on Michael Cohen is incredibly shaky ground.

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Irony
05/30/24 11:27:19 AM
#81:


They hinged nothing on Cohen

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Cory898
05/30/24 11:37:00 AM
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They hinged it on all the evidence they presented to corroborate Cohens testimony before he made it.

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ReiRei89
05/30/24 11:38:15 AM
#84:


Cohen being a liar doesn't mean that the mountains of evidence proving fat fuck is guilty is invalidated.

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Boombam99
05/30/24 11:41:52 AM
#85:


What would be the punishment if he is declared guilty? I cant picture him going to jail, thats wild
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ironman2009
05/30/24 11:44:18 AM
#86:


Boombam99 posted...
What would be the punishment if he is declared guilty? I cant picture him going to jail, thats wild

No truth social for 72 hours

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bluezero
05/30/24 11:48:08 AM
#87:


Boombam99 posted...
What would be the punishment if he is declared guilty? I cant picture him going to jail, thats wild
He's not going to jail, unfortunately.

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Cemith
05/30/24 11:49:57 AM
#88:


bluezero posted...
He's not going to jail, unfortunately.

Yeah no one with that amount of secret Intel is ever going to see a minute of time behind bars.

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littlebro07
05/30/24 11:50:31 AM
#89:


Boombam99 posted...
What would be the punishment if he is declared guilty? I cant picture him going to jail, thats wild

Probably a decently large fine (though nothing for a wealthy guy like him) and probation which he'll likely violate immediately

MAYBE house arrest?

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mystic_belmont
05/30/24 11:50:40 AM
#90:


Cemith posted...
Yeah no one with that amount of secret Intel is ever going to see a minute of time behind bars.

Leavenworth says hi.

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Heineken14
05/30/24 11:52:09 AM
#91:


Vyrulisse posted...
We all know he's guilty but I won't be surprised if he gets off. Hinging so much on Michael Cohen is incredibly shaky ground.

But they aren't though.

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Irony
05/30/24 11:52:13 AM
#92:


Trump doesn't have secret intel. Dude probably forgets how to put pants on.

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Cemith
05/30/24 11:53:53 AM
#93:


mystic_belmont posted...
Leavenworth says hi.

Looked this up and got a city. No idea what it's supposed to mean.

Trump doesn't have secret intel. Dude probably forgets how to put pants on.

Isn't it standard practice for presidential hopefuls to be briefed in several confidential areas?

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ironman2009
05/30/24 11:54:22 AM
#94:


Cemith posted...
Looked this up and got a city. No idea what it's supposed to mean.

There's a medium security federal prison there

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CableZL
05/30/24 11:55:13 AM
#95:


https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/1796200853600141515

The re-reads have happened and the jury is deliberating again

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rideshort
05/30/24 11:57:20 AM
#96:


Forget prison. Exile his ass on some deserted island with under constant surveillance and no internet.

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mystic_belmont
05/30/24 11:57:45 AM
#97:


Cemith posted...
Looked this up and got a city. No idea what it's supposed to mean.

https://www.visitleavenworthks.com/visitors/page/united-states-disciplinary-barracks

They handle people with classified knowledge all the time, they can definitely handle Trump.

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Cemith
05/30/24 11:59:13 AM
#98:


mystic_belmont posted...
https://www.visitleavenworthks.com/visitors/page/united-states-disciplinary-barracks

They handle people with classified knowledge all the time, they can definitely handle Trump.

Oh that's fucking sick hell yeah

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lilORANG
05/30/24 12:11:14 PM
#99:


Verdict when

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Heineken14
05/30/24 12:11:55 PM
#100:


lilORANG posted...
Verdict when

When the jury is done deliberating.

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