Current Events > Trump calls Latinax "Hispanican Americans"

(+) Yeah! (+)

Is that actually better than latinax?

Same with other similar PC language like "birthing persons" or pronouns or whatever.

Say what you want to say.

Thank goodness we have you hovering above us to speak on behalf of all Hispanic people, along with accusing the majority of them of being transphobic

"I like coffee"

Do reactionaries not complain about pronouns constantly? Constantly, as in every single minute of every single day? Because from what I can tell they never shut up about it.

so you hate tea, wow okay, a lot to unpack here

That user is the kind of person who'd try to claim "I like coffee" is a transphobic statement.

I actually do hate tea tho

Blistering commentary there. Thanks for sharing such important thoughts.

Yeah, people complaining about latinx are just being transphobic. Its an academic term used in specific contexts for inclusion and promoting equal rights, nobody is forcing you to personally use it in your everyday language or saying you cant use Latino/Latina for yourself.

Say what you want to say.

Yeah, people complaining about latinx are just being transphobic.

I don't know what you're getting at. Substitute "conservative" for "reactionary" if that matters. I don't think it's controversial to say that conservatives whine and moan constantly about PC language like "latinx" or using preferred pronouns despite those things having zero material impact on their lives. I really don't know how I can be any clearer.

Can you explain how its transphobic? If Latino is a Latin man and Latina is a Latin woman, wouldnt Latinx specifically be othering trans Latin people? A trans man is a man, a trans woman is a woman.

I read your post as saying pronoun usage is the culture war bullshit, not complaining about them.

If I got that backwards then that's my bad and I retract the statement.

The reaction to "latinx" is, as always, incredibly out of proportion with the perceived problem.

And the user you're dealing with is known for arguing just for the sake of it, I'll add.

TC knew what he was doing.

And the user you're dealing with is known for arguing just for the sake of it, I'll add.

A person after my own heart.

I am begging you to stop posting x.com links

Do reactionaries not complain about pronouns constantly? Constantly, as in every single minute of every single day? Because from what I can tell they never shut up about it.

You're the reactionary, bro.

The Muskrat finally got around to making x.com the actual URL and twitter.com the redirect a few weeks ago.

oh

so now we just have to wait 6-12 months for gamefaqs to fix it?

Trumble's mostly upset that his being born and raised in New Zealand doesn't make him the expert on American politics he thought he was.

I'm sure there are plenty of trans people who don't prefer the "latinx" label and will prefer whichever pronoun they want. The ones that prefer "latinx" may do so for very niche reasons, but I really don't see what difference it makes. No one is going to lock you in prison for saying "latino." Let people be free do what they want and represent themselves in the manner they prefer. It costs you literally nothing.

I know Spanish and I don't think its dumb
language evolves

it can change to be more inclusive ]

Spanish is that language where you can have 999 women and 1 male and then the word turns masculine

kinda lame imo

No u

I would still like to hear her explanation, but thanks for the response. The struggle Im having with this one is I know reasonable Democrats who specifically prefer different labels, meaning instead of universal terminology (which can sometimes be challenging to keep up with), Im having to remember specific terminology for different groups within the same umbrella who feel differently. I try my best to respect people and avoid words that offend them, but my memory is shoddy due to medication and Im not going to keep a notebook.

No, not me.

Sorry bud, the grass touchers dont even remember threads or blue clouds or whatever only the extremely online cult uses now.

The clips are still posted to Twitter.

That user is the kind of person who'd try to claim "I like coffee" is a transphobic statement.

Can you explain how its transphobic? If Latino is a Latin man and Latina is a Latin woman, wouldnt Latinx specifically be othering trans Latin people? A trans man is a man, a trans woman is a woman.

Using the word for grammatical gender to refer to the concept of societal gender had been a disaster for discourse in the English language. You practically need to know Spanish to even understand what the actual thing Spanish speaking people are talking about regarding Latinx is.

Ive not heard it used like that as a broad reference to the concept of societal gender, its always been more like the Latinx community or Latinx people when specifically speaking about issues that include or affect trans people, giving them a voice and a seat at the table, or highlighting issues that affect them.

The issue is most Spanish speaking people aren't upset about the social aspect. They're upset about the way grammatical gender is being treated. As pointed out Latine is a more accepted alternative because at least you can pronounce it in Spanish, but you still run into people who try to throw the entire concept of grammatical gender under the bus and this just pisses people off and makes them angry and then their opponents assume it's out of some kind of hatred for LGBT people, when it's really rooted in the language itself. They're talking past each other on this issue.

Man if only Puerto Rican academia knew basic Spanish grammar. Then people would be more accepting of trans inclusivity. Crazy how close we were.

Yeah, people complaining about latinx are just being transphobic. Its an academic term used in specific contexts for inclusion and promoting equal rights, nobody is forcing you to personally use it in your everyday language or saying you cant use Latino/Latina for yourself.

Can you explain how its transphobic? If Latino is a Latin man and Latina is a Latin woman, wouldnt Latinx specifically be othering trans Latin people? A trans man is a man, a trans woman is a woman.

Im not sure what youre trying to say here, tbh. Latinx is not transphobic or othering and has primarily seen usage in a context of political activism, academic papers, etc (but has fallen out of favor by many for Latine as Gladius pointed out.)

The issue is most Spanish speaking people aren't upset about the social aspect. They're upset about the way grammatical gender is being treated. As pointed out Latine is a more accepted alternative because at least you can pronounce it in Spanish, but you still run into people who try to throw the entire concept of grammatical gender under the bus and this just pisses people off and makes them angry and then their opponents assume it's out of some kind of hatred for LGBT people, when it's really rooted in the language itself. They're talking past each other on this issue.

Latinx is literally designed to be a gender neutral term, and trans people dont want to be gender neutral; right?

This is sort of the crux of the problem with your posts. You're treating "trans people" as a single entity, when in reality is a myriad of individuals. You're speaking as if this is some sort of internal contradiction when it isn't.

Yes, nonbinary people are trans too. I was specifically referring to the knee jerk reactionary and bad faith remarks. People who have a problem with Latinx conceptually arent talking about finding a more grammatically friendly term for the trans community, and complaining about their community being invaded by their own people.